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p.32 #1 · Sony A7RVI


Sorry for quoting myself… ;-) But I want to add one related thought.

There was a time in the development of digital camera systems when everyone “needed” every improvement. (Well, OK, almost everyone.) For example, when cameras had 3MP, virtually everyone benefited from getting 6MP. As time went on, the advances in particular aspects of camera performance were meaningful to increasingly smaller segments of the market. For example, going from 36MP to 60 MP, while mathematically a significant difference, probably only really made a difference to a relatively small subset of photographers who truly need the added detail.

Similarly, going from, say, no burst mode to a 3fps burst mode was a pretty big deal, and even going from, say, 4 fps to 8 fps was meaningful to a whole lot of people. But going from 15fps to 30fps? (Much less going to crazy rates like 60 fps?) The size of the market segment that benefits from that in a meaningful way is very, very small.

The same is true of range of other performance parameters.

All of this is my long way of saying that for many (most?) but not quite all photographers, just about any current high quality camera has more than enough performance for just about anything they will do. (Again, I”m not speaking about the leading edge specialists who really may benefit from cutting edge performance on specific features.)

So let’s say we’re looking at the A7r6 from this perspective. Yes, there are cameras that will work faster or perhaps have a deeper buffer, but for all but a relatively small segment of the market the camera will work well for just about anything most photographers will do. (The same might be said about a camera with a lower MP sensor and more speed, even with the balance shifted a bit in a different direction.

YMMV.

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You know, it a way it also ot doestn’ matter what camer ayou use, as long as you have the vision and skills to achieve the results you aspire to.

Canon, Nikon, Sony, fujifilm, whatever… I say pick whatever works for you and mostly stick with it over the long term, rarely changing brands. There’s a lot to be said for simply becoming very familiar with the ins and outs of whatever system you use — much like a musician continuing to play a very old instrument that he/she knows very, very well.

These days, all of the major brands make
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May 14, 2026 at 12:44 PM
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p.32 #2 · Sony A7RVI


They're all good cameras now, that's why the small details get so much attention.


May 14, 2026 at 12:49 PM
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p.32 #3 · Sony A7RVI


bwcolor wrote:
Wow, Sony Alpha Rumors and similar “sources” skewed expectations and these discussions in such a way that it seems that Sony set out to kill the A1ii and failed miserably. Why don’t we evaluate it based on it being an ‘R’ camera with better low iso performance, higher dynamic range, faster/more accurate autofocus, improved EVF, video features with less rolling shutter when compared to the A7Rv. The only real competitors here are medium format cameras, which are more expensive, larger with fewer system lenses.


Indeed.

A week or two back when we started seeing the wild rumors, many people said to just wait for the actual announcement to find out the truth.

But the online hype machine is unstoppable. And by creating probably absurd expectations (a camera that is better, faster, cheaper, bigger, smaller, lighter, heavier, than any other and which will make everyone a Real Photographer!), much of the “disappointment” isn’t really that the camera is poor or flawed… but instead that it may not live up to the impossible hype!

Best to look at it for what it is, what it will do well, and where something else might be more appropriate for some users.

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May 14, 2026 at 12:51 PM
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p.32 #4 · Sony A7RVI


stuuke wrote:
They're all good cameras now, that's why the small details get so much attention.


There's 800 pounds of insight in that succinct statement. Well done.



May 14, 2026 at 01:11 PM
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p.32 #5 · Sony A7RVI


What would you define as a video centric camera in 2026? That goal post is so weird in this day and age.
KCHonie wrote:
I am not sure why people are so bent about the a7r6vi It is an R series camera. It is not primarily a video camera nor is it a high speed camera. If you need high speed capture get an a9iii. If you shoot primarily video buy a video centric camera.

One camera doesn't satisfy all needs. The a7rvi is a truly amazing upgrade, mine is on order to replace my a7riii.

As an aside I get amazing motorsports images from my old slow a7riii, it does great for birds and wildlife as well as landscapes and portraits. I couldn't care less
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May 14, 2026 at 01:12 PM
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p.32 #6 · Sony A7RVI


There's probably a lot of people here following the YouTube camera nerds space (or just online camera talk in general) and I bet all of us can't help but notice that there's is this notion right now that "cameras are solved". I feel it's true.

For a common consumer or even pro-sumer there is hardly anything that can get you a better image quality from this or that camera. Unless a new crazy sensor tech is invented, advances will be marginal at best for quite a few years to come. Glass? That's limited by physics and fast primes will remain pricey, huge and heavy and pretty much as perfect as they are right now. The A7RVI is imho one of the closest cameras to that edge of current technology but also same can be said about, say, a Nikon Z8 or Z9. We live in abundant times, it's a great time to love camera tech and you don't even have to be nitpicky. We all just gotta use them more



May 14, 2026 at 01:38 PM
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p.32 #7 · Sony A7RVI


stuuke wrote:
They're all good cameras now, that's why the small details get so much attention.


Brilliant



May 14, 2026 at 01:44 PM
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p.32 #8 · Sony A7RVI


JadedWriter wrote:
What would you define as a video centric camera in 2026? That goal post is so weird in this day and age.



Probably the most obvious ones are cine cameras. FX, ZV, Canon C line and the likes. However, it's more vague whether cameras like GH7 or X-H2 and X-H2S are video-centric. The marketing is definitely heavy on videos, but these cameras still have the control interfaces of stills cameras. Cine cameras, even ones with stills capabilities, aren't easy to take photos with.

The oddest is Canon R5C. It is supposed to be a cine camera, no IBIS and with massive cooling system. But its user interfaces are basically that of the R5 plus more customizability, and it can take pictures equally easily. And it lacks many features you would want from Canon C line like internal ND and lots of threaded holes for extensions.



May 14, 2026 at 02:01 PM
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p.32 #9 · Sony A7RVI


ZeeMike wrote:
Unless a new crazy sensor tech is invented, advances will be marginal at best for quite a few years to come.


And here I am daydreaming, wouldn't it be neat to have a ZV-E1-sized 8K-capable global shutter camera that never overheats



May 14, 2026 at 02:06 PM
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p.32 #10 · Sony A7RVI


Douglas L wrote:
Interesting. I don't think I have shot fast moving subjects with electronic shutter of a camera that has a slow reading sensor. Genuine question, are you saying A7RVI's electronic shutter will work for shots like these? I know it could be problematic for swinging baseball bats, golf clubs, which I don't shoot, and hummingbirds, which I shoot a lot.

Sorry for getting of topic.


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Stoffer wrote:
Yeah, and I think Sony was pretty truthful with their marketing and showing wildlife instead of very fast acton as a key selling point.

I think there is a sensible overlap of people that shoot both landscape and wildlife (nature at large) and there is a lot of wildlife that doesn't require very fast capture rates. The a7r VI can do that in a pinch (30 fps and pre-capture) if an interesting opportunity arises but it is more for a rare occasion than the norm, I would say.

There is also the mechanical shutter if you can accept 10 fps and
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Douglas,

I very much like your aviation photos, for these shots I think with an A7r VI you would have to worry about a couple things if you shot them in electronic shutter mode. First, there are the reflections captured in the propellers. In these shots they are generally fairly straight lines. You could expect those reflections to be irregularlly curved bent like the baseball bat pictured in earlier in this thred. Second, things on the ground (e.g., roads) that should be straight lines might end up looking curved. These problems might be significant with some shots and might not
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I think the best summary is this: the A7R VI is a really nice upgrade for the R series. Unfortunately it was hyped by some as an A1 II killer, and it is not. Overall it is a great all around camera.

With this release the A1 series has become more of a high end niche camera, more like the Canon R1 series and Nikon Z9 series.

Interestingly, this does leave more latitude for what Sony can do with an A1 III. They certainly can keep it a stacked sensor and not go global shutter. I would expect at most a
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I have a couple of bridges in the B&S Forum to sell to those who believed the A7RVI was actually going to be an A1 II killer — cause yeah, Sony doesn’t know how to run a business 🤦🏽‍♂️



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p.32 #11 · Sony A7RVI


According to Gerlad Undone:
- When the dual gain is set to on, then there is the boost to the dynamic range. He states, noise performance at 3200 ISO is more like 800 ISO when dual gain is on! The trade off: the sensor readout falls to the 15-20ms range.

- When the dual gain is set to off, one loses the boosted dynamic range and improved noise performance but the sensor readout is now comparable to that of Canon R5 mk ii that is about 7ms.

Of course according to him, this all depends on the shooting mode: 8k, 4k, etc..

The 19.5ms stated sensor readout is for the 14bit still raw. I am wondering what is the sensor reading speed of Nikon Z8 and Canon R5 mk ii for 14bit still raw?





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May 14, 2026 at 04:26 PM
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p.32 #12 · Sony A7RVI


To all those who think the A7r6 is not an A1ii killer - you're wrong - it most certainly is.

I have an a9iii, A1ii and and A7r5 and the A7r6 will be replacing the A7r5 and 'killing' the A1ii.

As it is my A1ii gets barely any use - I usually only pull it out to do some test shots.

Now there is no reason to keep it. The A9iii can handle all the fast action, A1ii is just too slow for this anyway, and the A7r6 can handle the slower big birds/big game, people and everything else.

So yeah, it's definitely killing my A1ii - well ok rehoming it.

Well done Sony, love it that you're willing to eat your own in the name of progress.



May 14, 2026 at 04:42 PM
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p.32 #13 · Sony A7RVI


raminolta wrote:
I am wondering what is the sensor reading speed of Nikon Z8 and Canon R5 mk ii for 14bit still raw?


Canon R5II is 6.3ms, I shoot in ES exclusively and never seen an issue. I never use full ES on the A7RV. On my ZR for stills, there’s not much option other than to shoot in ES, but I’ve had photos ruined due to banding, so just use that for video now. My Leica I have set to hybrid, and for sure once that goes into ES, you don’t want to shoot anything that’s moving fast.




May 14, 2026 at 04:43 PM
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p.32 #14 · Sony A7RVI


raminolta wrote:
According to Gerlad Undone:
- When the dual gain is set to on, then there is the boost to the dynamic range. He states, noise performance at 3200 ISO is more like 800 ISO when dual gain is on! The trade off: the sensor reading falls to the 15-20ms range.

- When the dual gain is set to off, one loses the boosted dynamic range and improved noise performance but the sensor reading is now comparable to that of Canon R5 mk ii that is about 7ms.

Off course according to him, this all depends on the shooting mode: 8k, 4k, etc..

The 19.ms
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What Gerald is reporting is for shooting video. Sensor scan speeds for video can be markedly different that sensor scan speeds for stills. See snapsy's database to see how much they can vary:

https://horshack-dpreview.github.io/RollingShutter/



May 14, 2026 at 05:23 PM
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p.32 #15 · Sony A7RVI


duncangr wrote:
To all those who think the A7r6 is not an A1ii killer - you're wrong - it most certainly is.

I have an a9iii, A1ii and and A7r5 and the A7r6 will be replacing the A7r5 and 'killing' the A1ii.

As it is my A1ii gets barely any use - I usually only pull it out to do some test shots.

Now there is no reason to keep it. The A9iii can handle all the fast action, A1ii is just too slow for this anyway, and the A7r6 can handle the slower big birds/big game, people and everything else.

So yeah, it's
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May 14, 2026 at 05:56 PM
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p.32 #16 · Sony A7RVI


Steve Spencer wrote:
What Gerald is reporting is for shooting video. Sensor scan speeds for video can be markedly different that sensor scan speeds for stills. See snapsy's database to see how much they can vary:

https://horshack-dpreview.github.io/RollingShutter/


For those who prefer time in fractions, I've done the conversion for a7R VI: from CineD data,

8K 25p: 13.5 ms = 1/74 s
4K 25p DG on: 15.6 ms = 1/64 s
4K 25p DG off: 7.2 ms = 1/139 s



May 14, 2026 at 06:03 PM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
Sorry for quoting myself… ;-) But I want to add one related thought.

There was a time in the development of digital camera systems when everyone “needed” every improvement. (Well, OK, almost everyone.) For example, when cameras had 3MP, virtually everyone benefited from getting 6MP. As time went on, the advances in particular aspects of camera performance were meaningful to increasingly smaller segments of the market. For example, going from 36MP to 60 MP, while mathematically a significant difference, probably only really made a difference to a relatively small subset of photographers who truly need the added detail.

Similarly, going from, say,
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The difference between 12FPS mechanical to 30FPS electronic was HUGE. Maybe you are not used to that.
Wasn't it that European guy Jean Luc Bedard or somebody made famous for capturing the devisive moment?
You can capture better the exact timing you want of the legs or wings. 20FPS is enough for most species not too rapidly moving.
All that is assuming a decent shutter traverse speed. In the old days we had lens shutters up to 1/500 or focal planes from 1/60 to 1/250. And yes it made a difference; even back then your balls could be ';squashed" in some direction.

EBH



May 14, 2026 at 06:19 PM
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p.32 #18 · Sony A7RVI


EB-1 wrote:
The difference between 12FPS mechanical to 30FPS electronic was HUGE. Maybe you are not used to that.
Wasn't it that European guy Jean Luc Bedard or somebody made famous for capturing the devisive moment?
You can capture better the exact timing you want of the legs or wings. 20FPS is enough for most species not too rapidly moving.
All that is assuming a decent shutter traverse speed. In the old days we had lens shutters up to 1/500 or focal planes from 1/60 to 1/250. And yes it made a difference; even back then your balls could be ';squashed" in some
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Absolutely nothing worse than getting your balls squashed.



May 14, 2026 at 06:33 PM
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p.32 #19 · Sony A7RVI


I tried it today but wasn't impressive other than a long buffer or sort of thing. Probably gonna test more tomorrow.


May 14, 2026 at 06:53 PM
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p.32 #20 · Sony A7RVI


EB-1 wrote:

Wasn't it that European guy Jean Luc Bedard or somebody made famous for capturing the devisive moment?



The photographer was Henri Cartier-Bresson and he published a landmark photobook titled "The Decisive Moment."

He primarily used Leica rangefinder cameras, which of course were manual focus.

One fascinating aspect of his career and all of the other greats from earlier eras, is that they used equipment that is primitive by today's standards, and yet their photos hang on museum walls.



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