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p.3 #1 · Any Nikon converts here?


ramesesthe2nd wrote:
I’m certain I’ll own a Nikon ZF at some point because it’s such a beautiful camera, but modern Nikon lenses look a bit odd on it and I’m not interested in their larger glass. Sony’s relatively compact approach to full frame still suits me better. My plan is to buy the ZF with a couple of small primes and then add the Megadap adapter so I can keep using my lovely Sony lenses.

I am still a little concerned about the weight and overall size of the ZF, but I’m a sucker for retro looks, so I’ll just have to live
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Interesting turn in a conversation! Because you're describing more or less what I've been up to lately. My primary system is the A1+A7R combination with a set of GM primes. I was looking at either the ZF or X100VI to add a more lightweight fixed-lens camera. I had the same reservations regarding ZF's size so I ended up getting both to experiment and compare.

The ZF's ergonomics is absolutely fine if you use it the way FM/FE camers were historically used. Either have it hang on a neck strap, or keep it in a small shoulder bag pulling only to take a shot. It is simply not meant to be held and operated by one hand like all deep-gripped modern bodies are. People who shoot rangefinders understand what I mean. For lenses, the SE couple (28+40mm) matches it perfectly. I have the FM3a with AI-S Nikkors and they look exactly like that. Unfortunately you don't get the aperture ring, but stylistically it's a perfect match. But most importantly, they both weight nothing. Basically I'm saying that the ZF only has two lenses and it's twice as many as the Fuji :-)

I ended up selling the X100VI and kept the ZF. This outcome was exactly the opposite of what I had expected prior to starting the experiment, as I've been a fanboy of the X100 line since bying the original. I treat the ZF as a fixed-lens camera with the 28mm f/2.8 SE pancake mounted nearly 100% of the time.

Love it! Just look at this beaut:










Mar 30, 2026 at 09:47 PM
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p.3 #2 · Any Nikon converts here?


ramesesthe2nd wrote:
It’s like you went to Nikon and picked their worst‑ergonomics camera, and then went to Sony and picked their worst.

The Z mount’s ability to adapt E‑mount lenses is a huge plus. I’m certain I’ll own a Nikon ZF at some point because it’s such a beautiful camera, but modern Nikon lenses look a bit odd on it and I’m not interested in their larger glass. Sony’s relatively compact approach to full frame still suits me better. My plan is to buy the ZF with a couple of small primes and then add the Megadap adapter so I can keep
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Lol I went through several a7 series bodies and had an a9 at point. I think I'm at the point where I prefer the lifestyle experience over the brute force specs and ergo. retro styling of the Zf gets me too and the dials are great to work with. It is bulky compared to the a7c though. Larger Z mount means Nikon can't really shrink down to the form factor of the a7c.(nikon zr similarly eliminated the hump, but its a lot taller)



Mar 30, 2026 at 10:20 PM
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p.3 #3 · Any Nikon converts here?


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Lol I went through several a7 series bodies and had an a9 at point. I think I'm at the point where I prefer the lifestyle experience over the brute force specs and ergo.

I think I'm at the point where I prefer rendering and ergonomics over the brute force specs or lifestyle experience.😊




Mar 31, 2026 at 02:47 AM
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p.3 #4 · Any Nikon converts here?


It seems to me that Nikon (and Fujifilm) are targeting cash-rich the tail-end of Baby Boomers and Generation X with their nostalgic retro-designs. The look and experience is almost more important than the utility, performance and specs. You can find parallels in the world of watch design (re-releases of old models/design) or even the auto-world, especially in the US, with models like the PT Cruiser, Ford Bronco, etc. Well, Europe too, come to think of it, VW bus, Renault 5, Fiat 500, etc.

There is nothing wrong with this product and marketing strategy. Or buying and enjoying the products. It obviously works.

In terms of photography, Sony and Canon, the current Big Two in the industry, have avoided this strategy, but for different reasons. Sony, being newer to the game, simply doesn't have an old catalogue to harp back on. Canon, with great models like the AE-1 etc, surely could have gone down that route, but have resisted so far. Perhaps the trend will be dead by the time Canon gets around to it.

Any reason to pick up and use a camera is a valid one. No need to justify it to anyone else but yourself. Some people find it important to "be inspired" to pick up the camera, they get/need motivation from the device itself in order to make exposures. Or, at least, not be turned of or disgusted by it ;-) Again, have at it, whatever makes you happy or works for you.

Back to the question at hand, converting from Nikon to Sony, and the discussion around the Zf. I think it is a fun and capable camera. A bit too heavy and lacking ergs for my taste, and more importantly, lacking similarly looking Z lenses with aperture ring to complete the package/look. I think it makes a great 2nd or 3rd camera, which is often the case among enthusiasts here on FM, but I wouldn't go for it as my one-and-only camera. Kind of like a Leica Q3 sitting in the same boat, for me, at least.



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Mar 31, 2026 at 06:34 AM
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p.3 #5 · Any Nikon converts here?


On the one hand, I find these analog camera imitations utterly embarrassing, but on the other hand, I'll admit I'd still be susceptible to them. Why "would" and not "am"? Because in my eyes, it's all half-baked. For example, I find the ZF quite well-made at first glance, but compared to its supposed inspiration, the FM2, it's simply far too bulky and heavy. And in my opinion, Nikon has created a design disaster with the backside, which looks more cluttered and fragmented than any average DSLM.
An FM2 embodies the exact opposite: compactness, lightness and tidy simplicity.
The only digital camera that I consider truly offering a reasonably classic or "analog" user experience is the Leica M-D.
And there's the added factor, in addition to the design and user experience, of the fact that it's not a poorly executed folkloric disguise, but rather that an M has simply always looked like this. It may no longer be an analog camera, but it's still an original, not a wannabe copy.



Mar 31, 2026 at 06:59 AM
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p.3 #6 · Any Nikon converts here?


old-gregg wrote:
Interesting turn in a conversation! Because you're describing more or less what I've been up to lately. My primary system is the A1+A7R combination with a set of GM primes. I was looking at either the ZF or X100VI to add a more lightweight fixed-lens camera. I had the same reservations regarding ZF's size so I ended up getting both to experiment and compare.

The ZF's ergonomics is absolutely fine if you use it the way FM/FE camers were historically used. Either have it hang on a neck strap, or keep it in a small shoulder bag pulling only to take
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That just looks really cool!



Mar 31, 2026 at 08:38 AM
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p.3 #7 · Any Nikon converts here?


And I'd have no issues having a Zf as my only camera. A SmallRig grip completely transforms the handling and it can then use lenses like the 24-120 without discomfort. The AF has gotten several boosts since release and it's an extremely feature rich camera now at this point in its lifespan.

There are tons of great 3rd party lens options if you want smaller glass too, or you can of course adapt just about anything you want thanks to the Z mount's flexibility.

I also compared my Zf against the X100V/VI and was also surprised that I ended up keeping the Zf...and have remained surprised that it comes with me 90% of the time over its far more expensive and capable gear cabinet siblings.



Mar 31, 2026 at 08:45 AM
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p.3 #8 · Any Nikon converts here?


For me having run a photography business for over 10 years, I tend to associate larger and more ergonomic and top spec'd gear with work. 85GM MKI, Bigma 35 1.2 MK1, and Tamron 70-300 f2.8 are my workhorses. They get the job done and no I've had no desire to update to the newer versions because they do what they need to do. I've had my bigger pro bodies and have my workhorse strobes and modifiers too.

When shooting for the joy of shooting for myself though, I'm a firm believer in the idea that the best camera is the one that you have on you, and that's where I'm drawn to these compact and aesthetically cool looking offerings. I'm a fan of lifestyle cameras that you can slap a compact prime on (because bleeding edge optics aren't always the most important thing), toss in a bag, and not look like boomer uncle bob when out and about. I also travel a lot for my day job and its easier to shove the A7rc in my carry-on backpack with the 24i. Ergonomics also matter less when you're using compact lenses. It's superficial and kind of dumb, but it makes me enjoy the process of shooting for myself more and thats what its all about.

I will say the ZF is kind of an odd offering because its pretty large for what it is. It makes up for itself by actually being a super capable workhorse, but the size of the Z mount makes it hard to make a compact interchangable lens Nikon body. ZF with the native 40 f2 is a joy to shoot with though. I'm probably the target market for something like the Leica Q but really hard to rationalize the cost for a fixed lens camera and its actually larger than the a7rc. I did have an RX1RII back in the day and enjoyed shooting with that more than any other camera I've owned.



Mar 31, 2026 at 09:31 AM
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p.3 #9 · Any Nikon converts here?


Mystik wrote:
I did have an RX1RII back in the day and enjoyed shooting with that more than any other camera I've owned.

Well then it should be clear which camera is right for you.😉




Mar 31, 2026 at 10:04 AM
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p.3 #10 · Any Nikon converts here?


I started on a nikon 5300 then went to sony then tried the ZF and now Im back on the Nikon train. I still have my Sony cameras and lenses because I already invested in them and Sony has a lot of great 3rd party lenses. The megadap adapters allows me to use all the sony lenses on the ZF, and I have the FTZ adapter to adapt all my Nikon lenses to the ZF.


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p.3 #11 · Any Nikon converts here?


A bit off topic, but why the hell are seemingly all of the Sony 50mm 1.4 or faster E lenses so dang expensive and BIG? I really liked that my Nikon F 50mm 1.4 was something like $500, small, light, very portable, almost like a lens cap (well, not that flat), etc. That was my carry around lens. Just ranting.


Mar 31, 2026 at 11:52 AM
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p.3 #12 · Any Nikon converts here?


Compare an open-aperture shot taken with the AF-D Nikkor 1.4/50 with one taken with the 1.4/50 GM; that pretty much answers your question. Furthermore, the F-mount Nikkors don't have built-in autofocus. Otherwise, with a few exceptions, Sony lenses are smaller and lighter compared to current lenses from other manufacturers.


Mar 31, 2026 at 12:24 PM
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p.3 #13 · Any Nikon converts here?


Xysterz wrote:
A bit off topic, but why the hell are seemingly all of the Sony 50mm 1.4 or faster E lenses so dang expensive and BIG? I really liked that my Nikon F 50mm 1.4 was something like $500, small, light, very portable, almost like a lens cap (well, not that flat), etc. That was my carry around lens. Just ranting.



Nikon Z 50’s also are bigger than their F predecessors, but also optically superior, especially at wider apertures and outside the frame center. For example, the Z 501.8 S was for me a very nice upgrade in IQ over the four different versions of F-mount 50/1.8’s and 1.4’s I used to shoot.






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Mar 31, 2026 at 01:29 PM
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p.3 #14 · Any Nikon converts here?


If you want to turn your Zf (or Alpha) into a P&S experience then it's Viltrox to the rescue: 50/2 Air ($170) paired with the 28/4.5 ($80), and call it a day. The 50 is the best standard lens in the world, I kid not; the 28 is stated to be a bit softer but what do you want from a lens cap?


Mar 31, 2026 at 02:26 PM
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p.3 #15 · Any Nikon converts here?


Ross Martin wrote:
Nikon Z 50’s are all bigger than their F predecessors (but also optically superior, especially at wider apertures and outside the frame center). For example, comparing Nikon’s F 50/1.8G with their current Z 50/1.8 S:


This is always a bit of a disingenuous comparison simply because of how the mounts worked and how much farther back inside the body the sensor was in the DSLR cameras. The F lenses didn't HAVE to be as long, and if the Z mount stood as far away from the sensor as the F did, the lenses could be a LOT smaller.

The camera size site normalizing on the eyecup placement is also not helpful at all, wish they didn't do that.

Either way, lots of tiny third party options for very major brand except for Canon ()



Mar 31, 2026 at 05:39 PM
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p.3 #16 · Any Nikon converts here?


RoamingScott wrote:
This is always a bit of a disingenuous comparison simply because of how the mounts worked and how much farther back inside the body the sensor was in the DSLR cameras. The F lenses didn't HAVE to be as long, and if the Z mount stood as far away from the sensor as the F did, the lenses could be a LOT smaller.

The camera size site normalizing on the eyecup placement is also not helpful at all, wish they didn't do that.

Either way, lots of tiny third party options for very major brand except for Canon ()






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Mar 31, 2026 at 06:53 PM
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p.3 #17 · Any Nikon converts here?


RoamingScott wrote:
This is always a bit of a disingenuous comparison simply because of how the mounts worked and how much farther back inside the body the sensor was in the DSLR cameras. The F lenses didn't HAVE to be as long, and if the Z mount stood as far away from the sensor as the F did, the lenses could be a LOT smaller.


It is exactly the other way around. Shorter flange depth allows for more compact optical designs especially for lenses wider than 46mm. The laws of physics say that the Z lenses should have been smaller than F lenses, not bigger. Ever seen a Leica lens?

The reason Z-primes are fat is because Nikon wanted optical perfection at f/1.8, presumably because a bunch of internet photographers love staring at facial hair on 96dpi screens.



Mar 31, 2026 at 09:28 PM
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p.3 #18 · Any Nikon converts here?


Xysterz wrote:
Thank you!

Did you find that you are having to overcome the Sony color science in post much?

Also, what aspects of the Nikon ergo do you miss on the Sony? I have found Nikon ergo to be excellent.


Not too much. I use DXO PL9 and it really corrects what I want. The Sony can have a yellow cast in some images, but lacks just a hint of the 3D that the Z7II had (a really good sensor) but this is all minor. After POST you could not tell. The color science theory is pretty vague in reality. I would not let it influence your decision.

The Z7II with small rig base was perfect. The A7RIII is close but not quite as good (but still close). I mastered the Z7II with Custom 1,2,3 buttons optimized for different focus conditions which offset some of the AF limitations of that camera. The menus were easier to operate. The AF ON button was bigger on the Z7II but the A7RIV has a bigger button from what I was told. I liked the custom function buttons on the front of the camera instead of the top. Like the button to release lenses on the left hand side that Nikon uses.Liked the way the exposure levels were displayed on the Nikon better. Liked the way certain functions were mapped for customization, Liked the fact that I could switch to spot metering without taking my hand off the AF On by mapping the joy stick press. All minor stuff. When I consider focus ability and lens choices, its all worth it to me. No regrets. Would I take the Z7II if it had the better eye focus system (more consistent focus on iris and not lashes or worse) over the A7RIII? Yes, as long as I had the same lens lineup. But life does not work that way does it?

I had the Zf. Put a Voigtlander lens on it and its the coolest looking camera out there. Even my 8 year old granddaughter said as much out of the blue. But frankly I was not really impressed with the dials in actual use and found the camera a little clunky. When I switched back to the Z7II i thought I found an old friend, or maybe a nice well fitting old shoe. And I like the higher res. I just cannot go back to 24 MP. The Zf can give a painterly look, but there is a fine line separating painterly and "muddy." Love the cropability of the higher res sensor.



Apr 01, 2026 at 03:45 AM
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p.3 #19 · Any Nikon converts here?


Just picked up a Zf with a pretty unusual lens. Now I am trying to decide what to get next. Should I buy the E to Z adapter first or the 40mm SE first?







Apr 03, 2026 at 06:02 PM
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p.3 #20 · Any Nikon converts here?


Been enjoying the Sony system and my new lens choices. Just for old time sake, I did grab a 58 1.4 and a Commlite adapter for my "character lens" choice on a A7RIII. Actually works pretty good. So I did not totally abandon Nikon. Maybe a 105 and 28 1.4.....hmmmm.


Apr 10, 2026 at 03:37 PM
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