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p.1 #1 · You win, Hasselblad. You win.


This is a long story of slow surrender.

I've had Rodenstock lenses (originally the 35/4, 60/4, and 100/4 then added the 23/5.6) and have been in a perpetual search of the best way to use them. I adapted them to Fuji (GFX 50sII and, briefly, 100s). I used them with a Combo Actus Mini backed by my Sonys. I used them on an Actus DB with a borrowed Phase IQ3 100 Achromatic (full spectrum mono) and nearly stopped there. The back was so much fun. Still, the Actus reminded me why I’d sold off my first copy; it’s a dust pump that’s painful to travel with and there’s little hope of keeping that massive sensor clean, and the sensor itself reminded me that I don’t have lenses that allow for a lot of shift with medium FF. So that left tech cameras, and the smallest of those, the Cambo WRC 400, is designed to accommodate a FF, so it’s larger than it needs to be for the smaller sensor. Still, it was easily the best of my so-so options.

Enter my buddy Stephen, a mechanical engineer I worked with many moons ago and current Hasselblad shooter (X2D2 and, now, 907x 100c). When I told him what I was looking at, we had fun picking apart all the things we’d change about the Cambo (give it a real, circular mount instead of the clunky, difficult to pack Cambo lens boards, make the bottom and left hand edges dovetailed to easily switch the orientation of the movements, blah, blah, blah). We got each other so worked up over it, we literally drew plans and sent them to my machinist cousin, who’d expressed interest in the project.

In the meantime, I’d picked up a 907x 100c and 55V in a trade with a coworker with the expectation it would mostly be my back for the tech camera. A month or so later, the same coworker offered me his low-mileage 30/3.5 and the grip, the last two pieces of his kit he was having a hard time selling, for great prices. There was nothing to regret in that purchase, since I fell hard for the lens and the grip got my partner, Rolf, more excited about the camera. It seems to have triggered an uncharacteristically sentimental streak in my otherwise stoic Viking, who spent a lot of time in his youth shooting with his dad's old 500C. Thanks to that, we now have a 90V he came home with from his last business trip.

So he's got a simple, quirky camera he loves to use. I think he even sees the lack of IBIS as a bonus because it puts his epic levels of stability and decades of good technique to the test. Since I added a Chinese L-bracket, I've got what I consider to be the best tripod-mounted landscaper going. I thought using the screen to set the exposure would be bad (it really isn’t horrible), but Phocus Mobile 2 came to the rescue. I like not having to touch the camera once I've got it framed. It doesn't require much of a tripod and I've even used it on the Gorilla Pod in a couple of scenarios where a traditional tri would've been awkward or impossible. Bracketing, exposure and focus, are well implemented and easy to control through the app. AF isn't terribly impressive, but Rolf doesn't have a problem working with it, and I only use it when focus bracketing. We were both having a good time with it, and that’s rare. The last time that happened since we got together was when he was shooting Leica S.

Then my cousin got back with Stephen and me, letting us know that we were either going to have to simplify the gear and clutch mechanism we wanted to control the movements or he’d have to pass. It felt very much like a soft, I don’t want to hurt your feelings but I no longer want to do this pass from him, so I let him off the hook and we shopped the design around to places Stephen’s worked with previously. The quotes were sky high, so back to Cambo we went. We agreed I’d get the necessary panels for the lenses and he’d pick up the camera and back adapter. If he liked it and I didn’t, he’d buy the lenses off me, and if I liked it and he didn’t, I’d buy the camera and adapter off him. If neither of us were happy, we’d sell it all to others.

We had fun. I hadn’t been able to make any direct comparisons with the Rodenstocks to the XCD lenses on the 100MP back using their central shutters. I rented a 21/4 to compare to the 23/5.6, and the 21 really took the 23 to task so far as resolution and overall correction. The 21 has significantly stronger distortion (and significantly weirder) than the 23, but Phocus or LR clean it up nicely at landscape distances. If it weren’t for the difference in focal length, the 30 and 35 could be the same lenses. The 60’s a more even tempered across the frame landscaper than the 55, but I love the 55 for its all-around performance. The 90’s a smidge better than the 100, but you really have to pixel peep to see it.

Using shift or rise/fall with the Rodenstocks was interesting. Those tiny little pixels are making the 23 show its age. It really needs f/8 or 11 when shifted, and, even there, I’d try to limit myself to a 65mm image circle (so about + or - 6mm rise fall with the back in portrait, 7mm in landscape), which may not sound all that useful, but it is an ultrawide. How much shift would I really need? And, to be fair to the lens, I feel essentially the same way about Canon’s TSE 17 and Nikon’s PCE 19. Neither of them are all that great with high resolution sensors when shifted to the max.

The 35’s good for its advertised 70mm circle from wide open, and that increases as you stop down. By f/8, you’ve got a good 80mm to work with. The 60 can cover 90mm with heavy vignetting wide open, but that clears up nicely stopped down. Same story with the 100, but the vignetting is much lighter wide open. All in all, nothing they hadn’t set me up to expect when using them in different scenarios.

The “what the hell am I doing?” moment came when I was looking at the two kits side by side. There’s the large, heavy WRC 400, those beautifully small lenses made unwieldy by their large, heavy mounting plates, all of which was going to require a special case for any kind of travel. Next to that was the diminutive little 907x box and it’s decently small lenses, all of which slip nicely into just about every bag I own. I don’t have to pack a heavy duty tripod with a leveling base for it, though I still will at times because the kit works with most pano solutions I have, and panos from the 30 and 90 have been very satisfying, The 907x doesn’t have a native PC solution, but I’m confident it’ll come. And no matter how chunky that solution is, it’ll still be easier to pack.

Stephen, on the other hand, was as excited about the Cambo kit as I would’ve probably been a few years ago. So I sold him the Rodenstocks and drove home feeling free, Part of was having the photography slush fund nice and slushy again. Part of it was feeling like I’d finally broken free of my attachment to those lenses. Most of it, though, was satisfaction from finally realizing I had what I wanted from the day I made the trade with my coworker. And, when I got home, I ordered an iPad Air for the camera, so I wouldn’t have to worry about draining my phone battery while shooting in the middle of nowhere.

You win, Hasselblad. You now own this small part of my photography, for better or worse. I’ll still rely mostly on the flexibility of my 135 kit, but I am taking the 907x and 30 and 90 to Iceland with me for a long weekend in April, and Rolf plans to pack it for our Scandinavian driving tour in June. If you’d like more love from us, a 60ish macro with the same optical qualities as the 120 would do it. If you want my undying love, a CFV 100c full spectrum mono, like Phase’s Achromatic 100, would certainly earn that.

Thank you for your attention, and thanks for producing the little wonder. Please excuse me. I now have to go convince Syrp/Manfrotto to make a trigger cable for the camera so it’ll work with all my pano solutions.

-Brad



Mar 22, 2026 at 05:44 PM
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p.1 #2 · You win, Hasselblad. You win.


The 907 is the only camera I want to buy. I keep adding it and the 55 in the basket and then clear it. Been 6 months now I keep doing this...


Mar 23, 2026 at 07:42 AM
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p.1 #3 · You win, Hasselblad. You win.


panos.v wrote:
The 907 is the only camera I want to buy. I keep adding it and the 55 in the basket and then clear it. Been 6 months now I keep doing this...


Six months is a long time, even for tantric camera shopping. If you hit the buy button now, you'd have plenty of time to familiarize yourself with it before prime landscape season.



Mar 23, 2026 at 02:01 PM
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p.1 #4 · You win, Hasselblad. You win.


freaklikeme wrote:
Six months is a long time, even for tantric camera shopping. If you hit the buy button now, you'd have plenty of time to familiarize yourself with it before prime landscape season.


Hahaha I know but £10k is still £10k and I'm not at a stage where I can just spend that kind of money without...others...noticing. If you know what I mean



Mar 23, 2026 at 03:18 PM
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p.1 #5 · You win, Hasselblad. You win.


panos.v wrote:
Hahaha I know but £10k is still £10k and I'm not at a stage where I can just spend that kind of money without...others...noticing. If you know what I mean


Those pesky others, always trying to save us from disaster, financial or otherwise.



Mar 23, 2026 at 06:35 PM
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p.1 #6 · You win, Hasselblad. You win.


New favorite phrase, “tantric camera shopping”



freaklikeme wrote:
Six months is a long time, even for tantric camera shopping. If you hit the buy button now, you'd have plenty of time to familiarize yourself with it before prime landscape season.




Mar 24, 2026 at 03:13 PM
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p.1 #7 · You win, Hasselblad. You win.


Brad, one option that might be worth considering is Hasselblad's "old" V lenses. They cover a 56x56mm negative. If drawing that circle, the coverage for shifting purposes can be surprisingly effective if working with smaller sensors; this graphic is based on a 54x40mm sensor -



With a 54x40mm sensor, a vertical shift of 12mm is pretty much safe across all the V lenses (I've tried over dozen V lenses). The side to side shift "depends". If the sensor is centered and the movement is just left or right, then it's pretty low risk. Mixing vertical and horizontal movements gets dicey. If pushing into that territory (sometimes I do), the optical distortions can get pretty squirrelly. Also, if headed down this path, since the image circle is getting moved all the place, it's all F11. Shooting wide open can be quite unsettling because the fall off is no longer centered.

With a 44x33mm sized sensor, you can pretty much shift with impunity. I use this set-up with an IQ3-100 Achromatic. I had Phase install the IR filter, so it's a effectively super-sized Leica M10-M (in terms of sensor sensitivity / spectrum sensitivity) with shift capabilities. Works great.



I use the XT body because I get both vertical and horizontal shift in a pretty compact size. Also, the XT's 12mm limits match nicely with the V lenses; pushing beyond 12mm gets pretty stupid (I tried on a Rm3di set-up). This approach works great with color too because the lens are retro focus designs, so no weird color shifts. The down side with color is that color fringing on the "older" lenses is more likely to show up, especially if I'm pushing them pretty hard.

Probably the biggest argument against this approach is the cost. I shoot almost exclusively B&W and want to use a monochrome sensor (stacking red filters & polarizer), so my options are thin. I know you've gone down the monochrome sensor path many times.

If you get into a tantric web surfing mode, this could burn up a couple weekends in research time



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I like this. Machining quotes are sky high in the states (for good reason. Nobody makes any money off prototypes). If you ever want to dabble again, I have a couple of Chinese fab shops that I work with that are incredibly cheap for machined parts and the quality is great. I used to feel bad about going overseas since I'm big on reshoring manufacturing, but hell, like I said, nobody wants to do one-offs here anymore anyway. Ping me if you want contact info.

You'll need 3D CAD data. Sketches on napkins don't cut it anymore either



Mar 27, 2026 at 09:02 PM
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p.1 #9 · You win, Hasselblad. You win.


John Black wrote:

Brad, one option that might be worth considering is Hasselblad's "old" V lenses. They cover a 56x56mm negative. If drawing that circle, the coverage for shifting purposes can be surprisingly effective if working with smaller sensors; this graphic is based on a 54x40mm sensor -

https://d1pus65nq8mfgb.cloudfront.net/gear_talk/images/hasselblad_lens_movementss2x.jpg


With a 54x40mm sensor, a vertical shift of 12mm is pretty much safe across all the V lenses (I've tried over dozen V lenses). The side to side shift "depends". If the sensor is centered and the movement is just left or right, then it's pretty low risk. Mixing vertical and horizontal movements gets
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Hey, John. Years back when I bought my first Actus, the plan was to use it mostly with V lenses and an a7 with a thinned sensor stack to create 6x6 nine-shot panos. I had a lot of fun with it, especially with the CF 40 IF (beautiful lens), but the problem with using the V lenses and a smaller sensor was the fact that there's a hard stop at 40mm. On the Actus, because I had the ability to utilize rise/fall and shift, that worked out decently well because I could pano for a broader perspective if I had the room, but it still needed a lot of room. Once I switched to a DB, the Rodenstocks made more sense because I could get wider lenses that were smaller and lighter (even with the lens boards).

That is a gorgeous kit, though. I'm curious about something. It looks like you went with the lens board that mounts the V lenses but doesn't allow for shutter control. Are you strictly using the electronic shutter on the IQ3? How is that working out for you?



Mar 28, 2026 at 01:21 AM
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p.1 #10 · You win, Hasselblad. You win.


dog rocket wrote:
I like this. Machining quotes are sky high in the states (for good reason. Nobody makes any money off prototypes). If you ever want to dabble again, I have a couple of Chinese fab shops that I work with that are incredibly cheap for machined parts and the quality is great. I used to feel bad about going overseas since I'm big on reshoring manufacturing, but hell, like I said, nobody wants to do one-offs here anymore anyway. Ping me if you want contact info.

You'll need 3D CAD data. Sketches on napkins don't cut it anymore either


I'll check with my buddy to see if he's interested, but I am more than content to leave "The Strad" as a thing of dreams. If he's interested, I'll hit you up. And it's all in CAD. No cocktail napkins here. Thank you for the offer.



Mar 28, 2026 at 01:26 AM
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p.1 #11 · You win, Hasselblad. You win.


In related news, I used a little more of the slush fund to obtain a 45/4P. I'd rented it and the 28, since I'd never used either as Hasselblad never offered them up for testing when we were demoing their cameras at work. I liked the size of the 28, but I'm much happier with the overall results with the 30, so no change there. The 45 kind of blew me away. It won't replace the 55V, since that's Rolf's favorite lens and I think it's the most fun all-arounder we have, but it will sit between the 30 and 90 in my landscape kit. The focal length feels more natural to me and the performance is so strong, it feels like its size and weight and relatively low price are just massive bonuses.


Mar 28, 2026 at 02:15 AM
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freaklikeme wrote:
Are you strictly using the electronic shutter on the IQ3? How is that working out for you?


Yes, 100% electronic shutter. Cambo does make a version of the lens adapter that can trigger the leaf shutter. For amusement, I tried it but ended up returning it.

I'll just cut to the chase, it was a seriously dumb idea because it took alot of pressure to cock the shutter. Camera is trued-up, dead level, everything is shifted just so - cocking that shutter would screw up everything. I'd have to re-level the whole set-up and make sure composition had not changed in the process. It took about two shutter clicks to figure that was a no-go.

On the whole, electronic is the way to go because that eliminates the mechanical vibrations. Some of the V lenses are heavy and do not have a tripod collar, so if I was using a leaf shutter, that little shock wave could be problematic. The vast major of my shots are static - this isn't the kit for planes buzzing overhead or street shooting. My biggest problem is wind. Keeping things at base-ISO, stacking a dark red filter and polarizer, shooting F11, most daytime shots are somewhere in the 1/3 to 1/2 exposure time. So I'm literally cursing in (at) the wind.

That said, it works really well. If I need a mechanical shutter, I'll use the M10-M. But I given up using shift lenses on the M10-M. The V lens set-up runs circles around the lens I tried on the M10-M. Of those lenses, the 40mm IF has the most "pop". If I had to pick one, that would be it. But accommodating that shift range needs jumbo filters - it's a 105mm dark red and a 122mm polarizer. These are the 40mm -







On a smaller sensor, ending at the 40mm length is definitely limiting. On the IQ3A, it is about a 25mm FOV (unshifted) depending on the aspect ratio. That's good for me. I'm not into ultra wides, so the IQ3A + XT's shift range + 40mm IF's performance has been a nice trifecta. Very unintended. For grins I tried a V lens adapter on a Rm3di and tinkered with a Hasselblad 110/2. It snowballed from there. The 110/2 has a massive image circle, but distortion can get pretty crazy if shifting to extremes. This was that first shot with the Rm3di, 110/2 and IQ3A -



The Rm3di was a workable, but just not the right choice for the Hass V lenses. That's a different topic.




Mar 28, 2026 at 02:37 AM
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John Black wrote:



Yes, 100% electronic shutter. Cambo does make a version of the lens adapter that can trigger the leaf shutter. For amusement, I tried it but ended up returning it.

I'll just cut to the chase, it was a seriously dumb idea because it took alot of pressure to cock the shutter. Camera is trued-up, dead level, everything is shifted just so - cocking that shutter would screw up everything. I'd have to re-level the whole set-up and make sure composition had not changed in the process. It took about two shutter clicks to figure that was a no-go.

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Gorgeous stuff, John. You're putting it all to very good use. Have you hit any situations where it didn't work out because of the ES?

I hadn't considered the torque problem with the shutter-capable adapter, but I can see where it would be an issue. When you tested it, did you find any shutter shock problems? The shutters in the V lenses are very well dampened, designed to isolate vibrations to the shutter assembly itself. I wouldn't think it would cause any shock.

Of course, that wouldn't matter with your shutterless lenses, and you got one of my favorites in the 150/2.8. I first picked that up when I was shooting Pentax (645D and Z) and it was my favorite portrait lens on those cameras. I picked it up again with Fuji. I mean, it's a solid all-arounder, but the wide open performance always stunned me for portraits.



Mar 28, 2026 at 04:21 PM
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Regarding the adapter "torque" problem, it's been awhile since I used that Cambo adapter. IIRC - there are two silver levers. One of those has to be pulled, essentially rotated to cock the shutter. That requires placing a hand on the camera to steady else, and then the other hand pulls the lever. There's a healthy amount of force involved. The tripod is going to move. The camera is going to shift a bit on its gear head, ballhead, whatever. Cambo gets a "A" for novelty, "C-" for practicality. Also, that mechanism reduced the shift range; I was getting hard vignetting. Cambo I disagreed over the "why", but the result was indisputable. For me, the "dumb" adapter is the magic.

One other thing... if doing leaf shutter mode (V, copal, etc) on the IQ3's, the back has to go into low latency mode or whatever it is. The back gets super-duper hot. Battery life is nil. The IQ4's lost that function, so they need a tap on the rear screen to put it in the read mode, and then the user has X seconds to take the shot. Alpa makes a cable set-up for the IQ4 to work around that. Cables & landscape shots do go well together. Something gets snagged on something and really bad things can happen.

The leads to electronic shutter. You see what I'm shooting, so nothing is exactly "racing around". Everything is on a tripod. The biggest challenge is spring / summer when the trees get leaves. These monochrome shots have very long shutter speeds (dark red filter eats 3 stops, polarizer eats 2 stops, shot is F11, IQ3A at base ISO of 200). Sometimes it's 1/5, but generally the exposures are 1/3 to 1/2 during good light. Living in N. Texas, it's windy. Driving towards W. Texas only gets windier. That said, the challenge is NOT electronic shutter, it's exposure. I'd have the same challenge with a leaf or focal plane shutter.

I'd say a bigger challenge is NOT having electronic shutter. The M10-M does not have it and M's do have shutter shock. The danger zone depends on the focal length. For example, 28mm at 1/20 - no problem. At 1/4 - it could be sketchy. 90mm is need to be 1/180 and higher. 135mm needs to be 1/250 (preferably higher). Some dumb-ass who shall remain nameless even tried these lenses...



That was a fool's errand on the M10-R and M10-M. On the M11-M and M11 they were doable, they EVF magnification is less, so critical focus is more difficult (IMO). Before shooting monochrom cameras I didn't care too much about electronic shutter. But since shooting monochrome (starting ~2016 with the M-246), my opinion has done a 180º. For me, it's mission critical. So, having to use the IQ3A that way is perfectly fine.

I stumbled into all this. I started by using the IQ3A with an XF kit. I quickly missed having the option to shift lenses. A random experiment on the Rmd3i with a V lens adapter and one thing led to another.




Mar 29, 2026 at 01:03 PM







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