p.2 #1 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
How large are you printing? If it's between the Z6iii and Z50ii and your concern is printing larger, you're not getting that much more print size out of the 24 vs 20 mp file.
If you're doing a lot of hiking and already have the 12-28 and 24 1.7, I'd just pick up the 55-250 and bring the Z50ii. Full frame lenses are a fair bit heavier and larger than the DX Z lenses, which are still quite good.
p.2 #2 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
sungphoto wrote:
How large are you printing? If it's between the Z6iii and Z50ii and your concern is printing larger, you're not getting that much more print size out of the 24 vs 20 mp file.
If you're doing a lot of hiking and already have the 12-28 and 24 1.7, I'd just pick up the 55-250 and bring the Z50ii. Full frame lenses are a fair bit heavier and larger than the DX Z lenses, which are still quite good.
I like the sound of this for carrying lighter than I usually do.
As a read through all of the comments, which is a bit like going through my own brain as I think about this, I'm realizing it's the option to crop and still have a quality image. Taking so many images under time pressure, I do end up cropping for what I want, too often.
p.2 #3 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
RoamingScott wrote:
I've always liked the sensor in the Z50 line and if size was my absolute priority, I wouldn't mind the images from it as a single travel cam in the slightest.
I'd rather take my Zf and a 24-120 as a one and done kit, but that's me. I'd have a really hard time using 50 as my widest option on a DX body. It's funny to see the lens creep in this conversation..."I'm saving a little bit of weight on the camera body so I'll bring 4 lenses now!"
I think this is what I will do after all. Just take my Z6iii and 24-120 combo that I love. I'll be focused on wide more than reach on this trip. Keep it simple.
p.2 #4 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
KISS is always the best policy 😛
njofoto wrote:
I think this is what I will do after all. Just take my Z6iii and 24-120 combo that I love. I'll be focused on wide more than reach on this trip. Keep it simple.
p.2 #5 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
njofoto wrote:
I'm the same. I sometimes wish I still had the z7 for landscape...
I love the 24-120 for general travel and landscape. I pretty much don't take it off my Z63.
I want to take only the Z50ii on this trip but am still torn.
One other thought..
You could use the Z6ii and 24-120 f4 as your all day camera, and then just bring the Z50ii and the 24 1.7 to bring along for nice little snapshots in low light, like when you're relaxing after a long day exploring at a restaurant and want to take a photo of your SO. Also the Z50ii would be kind of like having a 1.5x teleconverter if you need a bit more range out of your 24-120, getting you to 180mm on the long end. Actually considering the 12-28 DX is so small, you might as well bring that too. That way you can just keep the 12-28 on the z50ii for wide angle coverage and the z6iii plus 24-120 for everything else, that way you don't have to worry about changing lenses.
I'm headed to Seoul next month for a few weeks, and you're really making me think about just picking up a Z50ii to go with my Z8 haha
p.2 #6 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
sungphoto wrote:
One other thought..
You could use the Z6ii and 24-120 f4 as your all day camera, and then just bring the Z50ii and the 24 1.7 to bring along for nice little snapshots in low light, like when you're relaxing after a long day exploring at a restaurant and want to take a photo of your SO. Also the Z50ii would be kind of like having a 1.5x teleconverter if you need a bit more range out of your 24-120, getting you to 180mm on the long end. Actually considering the 12-28 DX is so small, you might as well bring that too. That way you can just keep the 12-28 on the z50ii for wide angle coverage and the z6iii plus 24-120 for everything else, that way you don't have to worry about changing lenses.
I'm headed to Seoul next month for a few weeks, and you're really making me think about just picking up a Z50ii to go with my Z8 haha...Show more →
I'm likely to bring the Z50ii along for times we are riding bikes, or walking around a town. Better for the whale watching, too. Since I'm checking a bag anyway, and driving while there, I can handle it. My carry-on can just be photo kit. In this situation, I really don't have to choose. I think I'll use it as a test case and see what ends up being more useful.
p.2 #7 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
njofoto wrote:
I'm likely to bring the Z50ii along for times we are riding bikes, or walking around a town. Better for the whale watching, too. Since I'm checking a bag anyway, and driving while there, I can handle it. My carry-on can just be photo kit. In this situation, I really don't have to choose. I think I'll use it as a test case and see what ends up being more useful.
Funny thing is this thread is convincing me of the merits of picking up a Z50ii, as I've been going through the same mental prep on what to bring. I was surprised to find out the EVF is the same resolution as the previous gen Z50, as it felt clearer when I tried out a friend's, but that's probably because it is twice as bright at 1000nits. Also the fact that you can do n-log with the Z50ii is huge combined with the 2 hour record limit.
p.2 #8 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
sungphoto wrote:
Funny thing is this thread is convincing me of the merits of picking up a Z50ii, as I've been going through the same mental prep on what to bring. I was surprised to find out the EVF is the same resolution as the previous gen Z50, as it felt clearer when I tried out a friend's, but that's probably because it is twice as bright at 1000nits. Also the fact that you can do n-log with the Z50ii is huge combined with the 2 hour record limit.
How many batteries you bringing to shoot n-log at 1000 nits?!
p.2 #9 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
I generally don’t use the EVF to record video and I know that the rear screen drains the smaller batteries pretty quick having owned the Z30 for a bit. Regardless, the most I’d probably use one of these cameras for video at a time is 20-30 mins when I’m traveling (mostly to film some travel videos for a music class I teach). I have Z9 for anything more serious and I know that battery will easily last up to the recording limit of 2 hours, but I don’t want to lug that around in Korea. Thankfully the Z50ii works well with the Anker power banks I have, assuming they function as well as the Z30 with the same. I’ve recorded 2 hours on the Z30 before with a small power bank.
RoamingScott wrote:
How many batteries you bringing to shoot n-log at 1000 nits?!
p.2 #10 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
sungphoto wrote:
I generally don’t use the EVF to record video and I know that the rear screen drains the smaller batteries pretty quick having owned the Z30 for a bit. Regardless, the most I’d probably use one of these cameras for video at a time is 20-30 mins when I’m traveling (mostly to film some travel videos for a music class I teach). I have Z9 for anything more serious and I know that battery will easily last up to the recording limit of 2 hours, but I don’t want to lug that around in Korea. Thankfully the Z50ii works well with the Anker power banks I have, assuming they function as well as the Z30 with the same. I’ve recorded 2 hours on the Z30 before with a small power bank.
Yeah, I know about battery banks, I use them all the time while recording on my Zf...but here we are, talking about lightening our load again, only to bring along battery banks
p.2 #11 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
I usually travel with two anker power banks, a 20k mah one for my MBP and a smaller one for my phone that fits in the side pocket of my Ona Bowery. Flight to Seoul is 12 hours so it’s nice to have in case the outlets on the plane don’t work (though generally the Korean Air planes are extremely well maintained) and it’s nice not to have to chase down an outlet at an airport.
RoamingScott wrote:
Yeah, I know about battery banks, I use them all the time while recording on my Zf...but here we are, talking about lightening our load again, only to bring along battery banks
p.2 #14 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
It doesn’t matter in the real world on an Expeed 7 FF Z with IBIS. I still had no complaints on the Z7ii but the IBIS is certainly better now.
pbraymond wrote:
The 24-120 does not have VR. I know that is a major consideration for me if I were to travel light and forego a tripod most of the time.
p.2 #15 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
Yeah, I have no complaints on the IBIS and 24-120 on my Z7ii either. I thought one of the OP’s thoughts was using the 24-120 with the Z50ii.
RoamingScott wrote:
It doesn’t matter in the real world on an Expeed 7 FF Z with IBIS. I still had no complaints on the Z7ii but the IBIS is certainly better now.
p.2 #17 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
The best camera is the one you have with you. I've gotten great results from my phone, after my DSLR was stolen in Argentina.
I would miss the dynamic range and tonality from full framw, personally. I upgraded from APS-C specifically because I was tired of fighting blown highlights and crushed blacks. I gravitate towards primes though.
p.2 #18 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
I pretty much convinced myself to get a Z50ii in this thread haha.
Superscroll wrote:
I like sung's idea. Z50ii with a fast prime for evenings when you're less photo focused. FF sensor with the oh so great 24-120 for the rest.
p.2 #19 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
There are times I don't take my 200-600 to the Central coast. Some things are seasonal, spring flowers, elephant seal migration/haul-out times, etc. One can discuss paring down a kit. I wouldn't recommend it here.
These are "parking lot shots." You do have to walk short distances.
(Ok, older roadside shot near Point Lobos.)
One does have to shuttle in on tours for Hearst Castle. WR Hearst collected furnishings, art, etc., from all over Europe. Maybe one lens there.
Seasonal, beach population varies. 15 minutes or less up the road from the first site.
p.2 #20 · Deciding whether to lighten my travel kit from Z63 to Z50ii
Kent_Photo wrote:
Maybe rent a 24-200 or 28-400 for the trip at Lensrentals.com. The 24-200 runs about $60 for a week and the 28-400 is about $90, both with insurance.
I already have them available. I’m just deciding what to take with me.
