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Ask permission…then you are OK.


Not always possible.



Feb 13, 2026 at 12:11 PM
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1bwana1 wrote:
In many places the complications are not in shooting the picture it is in using the picture. Simply asking is not enough. You better get it in writing somehow.


And in that case, my enjoyment is gone.



Feb 13, 2026 at 12:12 PM
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Isn't participation in a public event one of the exemptions for expectation of privacy? I mean, you're protesting in a public gathering and the whole point of such a public demonstration is to spread the message through various means of communication. Therefore it would be expected that images/video will be recorded and later published, editorially, about the demonstration.

Bounce it off Alamy and see what they say? That said, they might be more interested in covering their own risk and not necessarily yours. But a good agency theoretically would want to protect their contributors as otherwise no one would eventually want
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You would think that participating in a public demonstration would change the rule, but it doesn’t. Only the leaders and/or speakers can be photographed AND published in a recognizable fashion.

I will ask Alamy, but I think you’re right that they will cover their own risks first.



Feb 13, 2026 at 12:17 PM
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I do wonder what these governments will outlaw next. Tag someone giving opinions contrary to government dictate and you have hate speech. Now, government greatly restricting what you can photograph in public spaces. I find it a bit ironic that a Vienna Fascist gathering was mentioned above. Here is a word with a million definitions, but at the core is an authoritarian government. Perhaps, you should worry what restrictions come next.

For me, I think I might just photograph apples and cabbage.

After traveling in South Korea, I thought that close focusing lenses might provide another perspective that I’ve been missing and
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While that fascist demonstration is one example, I’m also worried about just normal shooting in the street. That demo, though, is something else, but that’s another discussion.

People’s privacy, or right to their image, is taken ever more seriously in Europe. I don’t get it, but that’s yet again another discussion.



Feb 13, 2026 at 12:20 PM
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You’d expect in a free society that something like the First Amendment would reign supreme, but obviously not.


One of the first times I went to the UK, I bought a tabloid. There was an article about a half-famous singer who had an affair with the nanny.
Of course, they gave the name and pictures of said nanny who was around 18 at the time.
I was horrified: first, this is none of our business who sleeps with whom and second, this young girl should not have to live this.

So maybe they are limits to what the first amendment or equivalent should address? Because I lived and worked in several countries and I do not feel I'm any less free in France because we protect privacy.
I think our laws are sometimes stupid when it comes to photography but it did not prevent us to be the home of a few famous street photographers.




Feb 13, 2026 at 12:21 PM
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johnvanr wrote:
And in that case, my enjoyment is gone.


I fully understand. Much of my enjoyment of the good parts of Europe is greatly diminished by Government over reach and lack of freedom here.



Feb 13, 2026 at 12:30 PM
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1bwana1 wrote:
I fully understand. Much of my enjoyment of the good parts of Europe is greatly diminished by Government over reach and lack of freedom here.


+1. That's certainly one part of the problem in Europe. Nobody likes to talk about the elephant in the room which is the secondary problem there.



Feb 13, 2026 at 12:37 PM
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One of the first times I went to the UK, I bought a tabloid. There was an article about a half-famous singer who had an affair with the nanny.
Of course, they gave the name and pictures of said nanny who was around 18 at the time.
I was horrified: first, this is none of our business who sleeps with whom and second, this young girl should not have to live this.

So maybe they are limits to what the first amendment or equivalent should address? Because I lived and worked in several countries and I do not feel I'm any less
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Bresson would have been sued in today’s France, though.

Fred doesn’t have enough bandwidth for me to engage in this discussion, so I’m merely looking at how other people deal with this. Obviously there’s still quite a bit of street photography going on, even in strict countries.



Feb 13, 2026 at 12:43 PM
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1bwana1 wrote:
I fully understand. Much of my enjoyment of the good parts of Europe is greatly diminished by Government over reach and lack of freedom here.


I meant the enjoyment is gone because of the hassle of asking people to sign a model release…

I find government overreach everywhere, and private security overreach even worse. But that too is another discussion.



Feb 13, 2026 at 12:45 PM
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+1. That's certainly one part of the problem in Europe. Nobody likes to talk about the elephant in the room which is the secondary problem there.


Actually, I do think most Europeans support their so-called right to privacy in public places, no matter how much that is by itself an impossible contradiction.



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Well individual freedom is maximized when the limit of one person's freedom is another person's freedom. In that sense I think it is correct that your right to take my photo ends when I don't want you to take a photo of me, even if in a public place. This is what these laws are enforcing.

It is always a balancing act and trade-off when rights get in conflict with one another and different societies and countries will agree on a different set of trade-offs. And yes I think a lot / the majority of Europeans value personal privacy highly.

I think some of you could show a bit more respect to the decisions regarding these trade-offs that European societies have taken over the course of history, esp. if you enjoy so many aspects of these countries' cultures - these things are ultimately linked.



Feb 13, 2026 at 01:32 PM
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fjablo wrote:
Well individual freedom is maximized when the limit of one person's freedom is another person's freedom. In that sense I think it is correct that your right to take my photo ends when I don't want you to take a photo of me, even if in a public place. This is what these laws are enforcing.

It is always a balancing act and trade-off when rights get in conflict with one another and different societies and countries will agree on a different set of trade-offs. And yes I think a lot / the majority of Europeans value personal privacy highly.

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So much wrong with this way of thinking. But this is a camera forum not a political one so I won't engage...



Feb 13, 2026 at 01:47 PM
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So much wrong with this way of thinking. But this is a camera forum not a political one so I won't engage...


Likewise



Feb 13, 2026 at 01:49 PM
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Europeans should absolutely be able to enjoy the limits of freedom they have imposed on themselves without the ire or scorn of those more free


Feb 13, 2026 at 01:50 PM
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I just take the photo first then ask them after if I can keep it cause I thought the scene was beautiful. Usually 1 out of 100 people say please delete and I comply no problem. Asking for permission before makes no sense to me for street, it would shift the genre to portraiture imo.

If it's a large scene or situation where above is impossible I just use AI to swap the faces because my focus isn't their microexpressions but only their whole body action and pose. I just tag AI was used to swap faces only to protect privacy and no one cares.



Feb 13, 2026 at 01:56 PM
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I don’t believe that you must appreciate, or agree with all aspects of a countries laws and traditions, but I do think that if you visit, as a courtesy, you should, best possible, abide by those traditions. For example, in Japan, don’t be loud, wear too much perfume..etc. while taking public transit. If you can’t abide by these traditions, then travel where the environment is more agreeable.

That said, I doubt that these restrictions apply equally to those taking photos with smartphones. If my assumption is true then discretion is what might be in order. Use a small camera, shoot without overtly revealing what you are doing, but if the images are to be published, then cellphone, or camera..you best get permission in writing.



Feb 13, 2026 at 02:05 PM
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johnvanr wrote:
Bresson would have been sued in today’s France, though.

Fred doesn’t have enough bandwidth for me to engage in this discussion, so I’m merely looking at how other people deal with this. Obviously there’s still quite a bit of street photography going on, even in strict countries.


I think you just do it; your first option. And deal with any fallout when/if it happens. I mean, for me, I spent a fair amount of time in Germany from around 2000 to 2012 and less frequently until 2020. I initially assumed (yes, my bad) that the situation was similar to the US/Canada where someone out in public didn't have an expectation of privacy. I don't know when stricter privacy laws came into effect in Germany but I remember back around 2009 doing some candid 'street' type photos in Bonn while out with my cousin, who is actually Bundespolizei. He was curious why I was taking pictures of people I didn't know in a candid manner. I explained how people in the context of the scene, in their environment, told a more complete story about that scene. I guess he accepted it, as I was not lectured about Germany's privacy laws. So I remained ignorant and shot my style of street, which generally has not heavily focused on people, but I include people in compositions. Only once sometime later in the 2010s did someone (a guy in his 20s) tell me directly that I shouldn't have photographed him. We had a brief discussion where we agreed to disagree, but he didn't demand that I delete the photo (which ultimately wasn't even worth having taken). So it will probably depend on the person, whether you can convince them of your benign intentions, and if that is unsuccessful, how much you push back against their demands/requests, such as to delete the photo(s).

In other words, shoot first; ask for forgiveness second, at which point you potentially have the opportunity to discuss your intentions behind the photo with the person, rather than ruining the spontaneity of the situation by asking first.

I do think this has changed how I approach 'people in the street' situations, in that I'm more likely to do that kind of photography in areas more popular with tourists. Part of it being there are more people taking photos in these areas and it's kind of expected. As is the likelihood that tourists won't be aware of that country's privacy laws and can maybe get away with breaking them. Those areas also tend to be busier and therefore have more action. But of course, this approach risks ignoring other areas of a city worth exploring. Some of my change of coverage is also due to the overall increase in sensitivity people have about being photographed, which IMO is totally because of the negative side effects of social media. Now everyone is concerned about how their likenesses will be used (and honestly, I feel the same way). I think the most complicated now is when it involves children. As you know, children can be very interesting to photograph because they often show their true, unrestrained emotions and do quirky things that adults don't do. But now with helicopter parents and the seemingly immediate jump to accuse anyone photographing a child with a 'real' camera as a potential pedophile, it has become a real mental struggle whether or not a photo is 'worth the hassle' of the potential fallout. For me, my mental justification is that I don't have malicious intent and virtually never broadly publish my street/travel work. Therefore it's more for my personal development and enjoyment. But that might not be enough to convince someone else, especially an overly protective, irate, parent.

In your case, if you do wish to also distribute the work via an agency, that significantly complicates the situation.

With the Austrian fascists, I kind of get the impression you want to market those photos because you don't agree with their agenda, which suggests you wouldn't be opposed if the photos put them in a bad light. While I would share your position, if you take a neutral position, that is pretty much what the privacy laws were designed to protect - so that people can express their views without concern about how those views will be held against them (as much as we may disagree with their views).



Feb 13, 2026 at 03:10 PM
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1bwana1 wrote:
So much wrong with this way of thinking. But this is a camera forum not a political one so I won't engage...


1bwana1, if I was planning a book of portraits in today's world I'd make sure I had written confirmation of rights of use in the form of releases, not only for your peace of mind but also that of your publisher who would be unlikely to proceed with such book without such permissions. If you are self publishing you could be opening a can of self inflicted worms.

Perhaps you need to engage or be prepared to discus options with your lawyer?




Feb 13, 2026 at 03:26 PM
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KLaban wrote:
1bwana1, if I was planning a book of portraits in today's world I'd make sure I had written confirmation of rights of use in the form of releases, not only for your peace of mind but also that of your publisher who would be unlikely to proceed with such book without such permissions. If you are self publishing you could be opening a can of self inflicted worms.

Perhaps you need to engage or be prepared to discus options with your lawyer?



Italy has a long history and currently active acceptance of street photography. The laws here do support the right to photgraph in public and the right to publish those photographs for artistic purposes. This includes art books and gallery prints. You do need a release to use someone's image in a commercial context such as advertising. This is very different than some other European countries where such usage along with free speech is under attack. I have never been challenged by an Italian for taking an image. In fact when noticed the most common response is a smile and a verbal "thank you". Very different from some other European countries where I have experienced outright hostility. These countries are often leading in advancing "hate speech" laws.



Feb 13, 2026 at 03:36 PM
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ftllens wrote:
I just take the photo first then ask them after if I can keep it cause I thought the scene was beautiful. Usually 1 out of 100 people say please delete and I comply no problem. Asking for permission before makes no sense to me for street, it would shift the genre to portraiture imo.

If it's a large scene or situation where above is impossible I just use AI to swap the faces because my focus isn't their microexpressions but only their whole body action and pose. I just tag AI was used to swap faces only to protect privacy
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I find I get much stronger cultural images if I ask the person(s) if it’s ok to document what they are doing and then spend hour(s) documenting their day. As you spend time witnessing and understanding their culture, you get a better idea how to photograph them to bring out that culture.

I have no interest in grabbing a quick sneaky shot of someone on the street without taking the time to understand the people.



Feb 13, 2026 at 04:05 PM
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