p.1 #1 · With all these monochrome cameras - any monochrome displays?
I am looking for a monochrome display to present monochrome images. I assume that non-chromogenic displays could do the very sharp images, shot with monochrome cameras, more justice. Ideally a 6 or 8 display.
Does anyone know if such displays are available on the market?
p.1 #4 · With all these monochrome cameras - any monochrome displays?
Knut. wrote:
I am looking for a monochrome display to present monochrome images. I assume that non-chromogenic displays could do the very sharp images, shot with monochrome cameras, more justice. Ideally a 6 or 8 display.
Does anyone know if such displays are available on the market?
There are some monochromatic medical monitors.
The radiology center uses some of the Radiforce displys, but they are mostly for imaging. https://www.eizo.com/products/radiforce/
The industry is going more towards color with all the false color and other overlays.
p.1 #5 · With all these monochrome cameras - any monochrome displays?
Most of the existing BW monitors have less resolution than the present 6k colour monitors. In theory skipping 3 coulour diodes at every pixel, and thus increasing resolution to 12 or 18k, should lead to amazingly sharp BW monitors. The fitting monitors for the present monochrome cameras!
While in theory technically possible, I have not seen any such offers.
p.1 #6 · With all these monochrome cameras - any monochrome displays?
Knut. wrote:
I am looking for a monochrome display to present monochrome images. I assume that non-chromogenic displays could do the very sharp images, shot with monochrome cameras, more justice. Ideally a 6 or 8 display.
Does anyone know if such displays are available on the market?
Can’t answer your uestoin about availability — but I’m pretty sure they must exist somewhere — but I wonder why you would want this?
Screens don’t work the same way that sensors work, and the same supposed advantages of mono-only would not apply. A full color monitor can display a beautiful monochromatic image already.
In addition, while you might convince yourself that you want to _capture_ pure luminosity data with RGB filtering in a camera (the value of which is also debatable) when mono photographers print their images they often “tone” them (and have since forever) which entails producing an image that is not pure “black and white.”
p.1 #7 · With all these monochrome cameras - any monochrome displays?
Look for DICOM Part 14 monitors. Lots of manufacturers offer them. Usually they're targeted to medical radiology use. Mostly they are RGB but meet the standard for complete grayscale reproduction.
p.1 #8 · With all these monochrome cameras - any monochrome displays?
gdanmitchell wrote:
Can’t answer your uestoin about availability — but I’m pretty sure they must exist somewhere — but I wonder why you would want this?
Screens don’t work the same way that sensors work, and the same supposed advantages of mono-only would not apply. A full color monitor can display a beautiful monochromatic image already.
In addition, while you might convince yourself that you want to _capture_ pure luminosity data with RGB filtering in a camera (the value of which is also debatable) when mono photographers print their images they often “tone” them (and have since forever) which entails producing an image that is not pure “black and white.”...Show more →
For me personally it is mostly about resolution. I love to look at a image from a distance. Then I move closer and see more detail. Finally I take my glasses off and scrutinize the image from 4 inches distance. Most displays fall apart at this distance.
This is a personal way of enjoying prints. For me personally it is truer to life, where you also walk up close to objects you have detected in the distance.
p.1 #9 · With all these monochrome cameras - any monochrome displays?
Knut. wrote:
For me personally it is mostly about resolution. I love to look at a image from a distance. Then I move closer and see more detail. Finally I take my glasses off and scrutinize the image from 4 inches distance. Most displays fall apart at this distance.
This is a personal way of enjoying prints. For me personally it is truer to life, where you also walk up close to objects you have detected in the distance.
I think you need a 4k or 8K (?) monitor (pixels will matter more than physical size), and assure that you have a proper video card. You can always tweak the monitor setting or via card UI to get the best resolution, gamma, etc. that fits you taste and needs. They are pricey, but likely they will provide you better results than those medical monitors
p.1 #10 · With all these monochrome cameras - any monochrome displays?
Bacalhau wrote:
I think you need a 4k or 8K (?) monitor (pixels will matter more than physical size), and assure that you have a proper video card. You can always tweak the monitor setting or via card UI to get the best resolution, gamma, etc. that fits you taste and needs. They are pricey, but likely they will provide you better results than those medical monitors
I believe so as well. Suprisingly those medical monitors are actually not that high resolution.
p.1 #11 · With all these monochrome cameras - any monochrome displays?
Knut. wrote:
For me personally it is mostly about resolution. I love to look at a image from a distance. Then I move closer and see more detail. Finally I take my glasses off and scrutinize the image from 4 inches distance. Most displays fall apart at this distance.
This is a personal way of enjoying prints. For me personally it is truer to life, where you also walk up close to objects you have detected in the distance.
I don’t believe that a monochrome monitor would have any higher resolution that a color monitor those days. Of course, if you want high resolution you are either going to have to use a video monitor that is capable of very high resoltion (e.g. 8k monitory) or else a computer monitor. Itis hard to imagine feeling that the resolution breaks down with the high end monitor.
when you mention viewing from 4 inches, are you talking about sticking your face 4 inches away from a large monitor? Really? It is hard to even imagine doing that — most of us would probably be unable to focus that close on the tiny section of a monitor that you’d be looking at.
p.1 #12 · With all these monochrome cameras - any monochrome displays?
gdanmitchell wrote:
when you mention viewing from 4 inches, are you talking about sticking your face 4 inches away from a large monitor? Really? It is hard to even imagine doing that — most of us would probably be unable to focus that close on the tiny section of a monitor that you’d be looking at.
But I guess that if that is your standard…
Does give away, that I‘m short sighted, doesn‘t it?
I‘ve got an image of the Dolomites (print of one of my shots, 1,5x1m): From 2-3 meters distance it shows a magestic mountain range. When moving closer you see houses, groups of people, a road and some cars. Scanning the image really close (6 inches), a single mountaineer can be seen scaling one of the spires. Good prints can carry a lot of detail. I have 6k colour monitors which come close. I would have thought that not having 3 colour LEDs for a pixel and instead three luminosity LEDs could raise resolution further (just as it does in monochrome sensors). It appears that these monitors, while in theory technically feasable, do not exist.
(Now, I do not want to go down the path that you do not NEED this resolution. There used to be a photographer with a known website who claimed that more resolution is not needed after 6mp cameras were introduced…) Applications are individual.
p.1 #13 · With all these monochrome cameras - any monochrome displays?
Knut. wrote:
Does give away, that I‘m short sighted, doesn‘t it?
I‘ve got an image of the Dolomites (print of one of my shots, 1,5x1m): From 2-3 meters distance it shows a magestic mountain range. When moving closer you see houses, groups of people, a road and some cars. Scanning the image really close (6 inches), a single mountaineer can be seen scaling one of the spires. Good prints can carry a lot of detail. I have 6k colour monitors which come close. I would have thought that not having 3 colour LEDs for a pixel and instead three luminosity LEDs could raise resolution further (just as it does in monochrome sensors). It appears that these monitors, while in theory technically feasable, do not exist.
(Now, I do not want to go down the path that you do not NEED this resolution. There used to be a photographer with a known website who claimed that more resolution is not needed after 6mp cameras were introduced…) Applications are individual.
I wonder if you are thinking that monitors behave like digital printers. On the latter, the printer constructs an image by applying an ery high resolution pattern of different color “inks” to the paper.
