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p.1 #1 · Old AiS Lenses on Z Bodies?


Curious to know if anyone here is using old manual focus Nikon AiS lenses on any of their new mirrorless Z mount bodies. If so, how well do they perform in terms of sharpness, contrast, color rendering?


Feb 04, 2026 at 11:15 AM
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p.1 #2 · Old AiS Lenses on Z Bodies?


There's a whole thread on Manual Focus Nikon Glass that you should check out. I can say from my own experience that older Nikon glass performs admirably on Z cameras. I've used the Z5 and Zf (which have similar sensors) and all the lenses I've used with them work great. I don't have any F mount SLRs to compare to but I have no complaints about the image quality I get (keeping in mind that these are all vintage lenses so the rendering is usually different than modern equivalents).


Feb 04, 2026 at 11:21 AM
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p.1 #3 · Old AiS Lenses on Z Bodies?


Read up!

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1828981/0



Feb 04, 2026 at 11:48 AM
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p.1 #4 · Old AiS Lenses on Z Bodies?




RoamingScott wrote:
Read up!

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1828981/0



That post is mainly about M to Z adapted lenses. I'm referring to F to Z adapted lenses, particularly the old Nikon AiS manual focus lenses. They were considered spectacular back in the old film days, and I'm wondering how well they woyld perform on today's Z mount cameras.

I currently have several AiS lenses from my old film days, plus several film SLR's (and a rangefinder). It would be nice to know if my old manual focus Nikkors are still relevant today.



Feb 04, 2026 at 12:34 PM
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snegron7 wrote:
That post is mainly about M to Z adapted lenses. I'm referring to F to Z adapted lenses, particularly the old Nikon AiS manual focus lenses. They were considered spectacular back in the old film days, and I'm wondering how well they woyld perform on today's Z mount cameras.

I currently have several AiS lenses from my old film days, plus several film SLR's (and a rangefinder). It would be nice to know if my old manual focus Nikkors are still relevant today.


No, those old AiS lenses are BAD, just send them to me and I'll get rid of them for you

You have several options: set them up as dumb lenses on dumb adapters (assuming they aren't chipped) and use focus peaking/magnification for focus, that works well. You get excellent IBIS that you never had during the old days which makes your photos sharper in general and improves the handling. You also get nicely spoofed EXIF thanks to Nikon's "non-cpu lens" options.

You can also put them on an F > M adapter and then get a chipped M > Z adapter and those lenses will magically have both green box focus confirmation AND autofocus. There's lots of fun to be had here.

The thread I linked is mostly definitely not exclusive to M > Z adapting, lots of vintage F glass being used in there.



Feb 04, 2026 at 12:44 PM
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p.1 #6 · Old AiS Lenses on Z Bodies?


Phillipreeve.net is a good starting point.

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/lenses/all-lens-reviews/#Nikon

There you'll find many reviews of vintage lenses adapted to mirrorless cameras, including various Nikon AI and Ai-s lenses.

Personally, I can't say anything about old Nikon AI and Ai-s lenses, as I was using the Canon FD and Mamiya 645 system back then, but there are definitely some very good vintage lenses worth adapting.
I still use some of my old Canon FD, Mamiya 645 and M42 lenses, especially the Canon FD 85mm f/1.2 L, which is absurdly good for a lens that's now over 40 years old.

Of course, wide open at f/1.2, it can't compete with modern lenses in this category.
It's usable at f/1.2, but with spherical aberrations, comparable low contrast wide open, soft midframe and corners, and of course, plenty of color fringing.
But what this lens delivers when stopped down slightly is exceptional for such an old lens and doesn't need to hide behind some of my Z lenses.
Especially since the FD 85/1.2 possesses enormous potential for 3D pop, particularly at 85mm-compatible portrait distances, to a degree that only the Plena can match among my Z lenses—and these are exclusively S-line.

Lenses like the Z 50/1.8 S or Z MC 105/2.8 VR S are, of course, significantly cleaner, better corrected even wide open, and with considerably greater sharpness consistency across the entire frame, but they lack the three-dimensionality that is possible with the old FD 85/1.2 L when the conditions, light, distance and subject are right.
It is one of the few vintage lenses that have clearly benefited from the higher resolution of my Z8 compared to the Z6, whereas many of my other vintage lenses have the Z6 as their suitable sensor partner.

Vintage lenses can therefore make a lot of sense, not only because they offer variability in rendering, where most modern lenses are becoming increasingly indistinguishable, but also because they can save a lot of money and a lot of them still perform well on mirrorless cameras today.

Most importantly, they're fun!



Feb 04, 2026 at 01:09 PM
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p.1 #7 · Old AiS Lenses on Z Bodies?


Here's a 500px gallery from a friend of mine.

https://500px.com/p/michaelbrning?view=photos

The few modern lenses he owns are a Z 50/1.8 S and a Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton; otherwise, he works exclusively with manual focus vintage lenses, often Nikkor Ai and Ai-S lenses.
His cameras are a Sony A7II and a Nikon Z6.
I think his photos speak for themselves, showing what's possible with the simplest, cheapest equipment and manual focus, if it fits your own area of ​​application.

Even his BiF images are taken with manual focus and a Nikkor 180/2.8 Ai-s ED lens.
And the man has been blind in one eye since childhood.
So, what you really need for excellent photos isn't modern, expensive equipment, but primarily a lot of passion for photography.

https://500px.com/photo/1070306000/haussperling-passer-domesticus-by-michael-bruning

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Feb 04, 2026 at 01:26 PM
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I use the Micro-Nikkor 55/2.8, still very sharp, the 24/2.0, Serie E 100mm and 80-200/4.0. All works well.


Feb 04, 2026 at 01:29 PM
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snegron7 wrote:
That post is mainly about M to Z adapted lenses. I'm referring to F to Z adapted lenses, particularly the old Nikon AiS manual focus lenses. They were considered spectacular back in the old film days, and I'm wondering how well they woyld perform on today's Z mount cameras.

I currently have several AiS lenses from my old film days, plus several film SLR's (and a rangefinder). It would be nice to know if my old manual focus Nikkors are still relevant today.


What Ai-S lenses do you have?



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p.1 #10 · Old AiS Lenses on Z Bodies?


The better of the K/Ai/AiS Nikon lenses can be useful on current Z cams via the FTZ or other adapter. I have mostly preferred the F-mount Zeiss lenses in the ZF, ZF.2, and Milvus series to the 1970's-1980's Nikon lenses where there are equivalents to compare. Maybe get an inexpensive dumb adapter and try the ones you have on your Z.


Feb 04, 2026 at 02:12 PM
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p.1 #11 · Old AiS Lenses on Z Bodies?


If it was a quality prime lens, it'll likely still look brilliant on today's cameras, though of course fully manual unless you go the double-adapter route as Scott suggested above.

I don't have a lot, but I do have a pre-AI 50mm f/2, an AI 135mm f/3.5 and an AI-S 180mm f/2.8. The 50/2 is fine, but nothing special, especially compared to today's modern 50mm designs. The 135/3.5 is still excellent, even on modern bodies. Very sharp, lovely rendering, great contrast. The 180/2.8 is legendary for a reason, and while it is BIG and heavy, and not quite as sharp as a lot of modern telephotos, it still has plenty of resolution and absolutely gorgeous bokeh and color. Still looks fantastic on modern glass, though the long minimum focus distance isn't amazing. Remarkable that it's only a 5 element lens.



Feb 04, 2026 at 03:07 PM
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p.1 #12 · Old AiS Lenses on Z Bodies?


Here’s 2,585 pages worth. All of them solely Nikon manual focus (though you’ll get a sprinkling of S mount)…

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/929565/



Feb 04, 2026 at 10:07 PM
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105mm f/2.5 and 28mm f/2.8 AIS are still great on Z5.


Feb 04, 2026 at 10:58 PM
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Jman13 wrote:
If it was a quality prime lens, it'll likely still look brilliant on today's cameras, though of course fully manual unless you go the double-adapter route as Scott suggested above.

I don't have a lot, but I do have a pre-AI 50mm f/2, an AI 135mm f/3.5 and an AI-S 180mm f/2.8. The 50/2 is fine, but nothing special, especially compared to today's modern 50mm designs. The 135/3.5 is still excellent, even on modern bodies. Very sharp, lovely rendering, great contrast. The 180/2.8 is legendary for a reason, and while it is BIG and heavy, and not quite as sharp
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Back in the early 80s that 180/2.8 was excellent for what it was. We had no 80-200/2.8s then. I also had the 50/2 pre-Ai and even in 1976 I was not very happy with it until stopped down. The 55/2.8 AI-s replaced it.
Many of those old lenses were not so great wide open as people are expecting today. Other than the 50 Noct that was super expensive and rare there were no asplenic optics.

EBH



Feb 04, 2026 at 11:27 PM
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EB-1 wrote:
Back in the early 80s that 180/2.8 was excellent for what it was. We had no 80-200/2.8s then. I also had the 50/2 pre-Ai and even in 1976 I was not very happy with it until stopped down. The 55/2.8 AI-s replaced it.
Many of those old lenses were not so great wide open as people are expecting today. Other than the 50 Noct that was super expensive and rare there were no asplenic optics.

EBH


Interesting note: I too had to stop down my manual focus lenses because they weren't "spectacular" wide open. Once they reached "the sweet spot" (usully f4 or f5.6) they were legendary!



Feb 05, 2026 at 06:50 AM
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EB-1 wrote:
Many of those old lenses were not so great wide open as people are expecting today. Other than the 50 Noct that was super expensive and rare there were no asplenic optics.


snegron7 wrote:
Interesting note: I too had to stop down my manual focus lenses because they weren't "spectacular" wide open. Once they reached "the sweet spot" (usully f4 or f5.6) they were legendary!


In the film days, the purpose of fast lenses was at least partly for easier focussing in low-light (though due to the way focusing screens work, lenses faster than about f/1.4 didn't give much advantage). Also, given how little depth-of-field there would be, they would not have been shot wide-open very often (super-fast telephotos for Sports use being an exception of course). This meant that the lens designers could accept some compromises in optical performance wide-open, particularly corner-sharpness, since lenses where almost always expected to be stopped-down. When you did have to shoot wide-open, it was usually because you wouldn't get the shot otherwise (e.g. a combination of low-light, slow-film, and hitting the lower limit of hand-holdable shutter-speeds), and you would accept the optical problems that implied.

Modern lens designs, especially for Mirrorless, seem to be aiming for fast lenses with the criteria "maximize quality, don't worry about the size". These fast lenses are intended to be used wide-open due to the desire for "bokeh", and the AF capabilities of mirrorless cameras are quite capable of nailing the focus even when the depth-of-field is razor-thin. Their designs achieve amazing quality even wide-open (or maybe 1/2 stop closed-down) at the expense of "large jar of peanut butter" size/weight.

Thus, my fastest 80's Nikkors are MUCH more compact than their Z-mount equivalents, but generally need to be stopped-down 2-3 stops to achieve good optical results, something the Z-mount lenses do not require. I am OK with the tradeoff of my old lenses, as I value compact over wide-open quality. And sometimes the "flaws" of an old lens shot wide-open are part of the fun (e.g. the "swirly bokeh" of my 24/2).



Feb 05, 2026 at 09:06 AM
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grantgoodes wrote:
In the film days, the purpose of fast lenses was at least partly for easier focussing in low-light (though due to the way focusing screens work, lenses faster than about f/1.4 didn't give much advantage).


There were exceptions, though.

For the New F-1, Canon made 32 interchangeable focusing screens available at the time.
Some much brighter than normal screens called "Super Bright Laser Matte J + K".
The "J" version was for lenses up to 200mm focal length and the "K" version was for fast supertele lenses 300mm and longer.
And they came in all three metering patterns; spot, selective, integral, six screens in all.

Both were by far the brightest screens of the system.
The J screen was especially effective with 50mm to 200mm lenses and dark subjects.
The K version was the other Super Bright Laser Matte, an extremely bright screen which offered the same unobstructed, sharp image as the Bright Laser Matte J.
They had no microprism or split screen, but they are so bright and sharp that you really don't need one.

The Super Bright Laser Mat, which I had with selective metering, was not even remotely comparable to the screens that were otherwise available at that time, when used with a lens like the Canon FD 85mm f/1.2 L.
I also had a Canon A-1, and the difference compared to standard micro-prism screens was like night and day.
It was so bright that you didn't need a micro-prism anymore; you just had a blank screen.

I still remember it very well.
Pat Metheny Group concert in 1985, Canon New F-1 + Super Bright Laser Matte J and the Canon FD 85/1.2 L, how superior this combination was even in the dimest possible light.
After replacing the standard screen with micro prims on the New F-1, I never used any screen other than the super bright laser matte screen with the F-1 again.
I still have the camera with that screen to this day, and compared to the standards of the time, it was one, if not two, leagues above in terms of viewfinder brightness, especially when combined with lenses like the FD 50/1.2 L, FD 85/1.2 L, and FD 135/2, FD 200/2.8, 300/2.8...... for which these screens were optimized.


The problem, of course, with today's digital, high-resolution sensors is that the flaws of older lenses become more visible.
Especially in the area of ​​color fringing at wide apertures, this can sometimes be quite painful on the eyes.
Sure, some color aberrations can be corrected digitally, which wasn't possible with analog, but overall, one shouldn't be too sensitive to them.

I can't say how it is with Nikon Ai or Ai-S.
But the fast FD lenses often struggle a lot with LoCA on a modern, high-resolution MILC camera.

My Canon FD 200mm f/2.8 IF lens, which is still very good in many areas, is therefore almost unusable wide open with a Z6/Z8.
This alone significantly limits the use of wide apertures in certain situations.
This wasn't nearly as problematic in the days of analog film.




Feb 05, 2026 at 10:53 AM







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