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 p.1 #13 · Sony A7C with Voigtlander 50mm 1.2 handling? | |
Yogifi wrote:
A7cii evf isn't a treat to use, but it works.
The camera isn't the size that you just toss it aound all over the place like a fuji xe/x100. But it's small enough to take out and about, not too awkward. For me I don't particularly like to carry it on my neck. I'm okay doing that with the x100 but that's about it.
I've included it (and a bo-lle o' wa-er) for scale here. Note I use the bottom plate of an L-bracket with the a7cii for basically every lens other than smallest like the tta40/2 but I can live without it too.
https://i.postimg.cc/jjJM3ck7/DSCF4043.jpg
next to the 40 (not a huge difference but I notice it).
https://i.postimg.cc/HxDBqMfy/DSCF4045.jpg
On the Nokton itself, I really like it, the colours are a little less modern: a hint more pastel and vintage but with good contrast. Like there's a notable difference between it and say a recent Sigma lens. I like it a lot with people and good light.
A Simera 50/1.4 has a more modern look - still not the same as a Sigma but it's more modern than the nokton colours and style, more bubbly, fresh and lively but less depth. Penelope Cruz / Sydney Sweeney.
[The Sigma 50/2 is very nice btw, I don't mean to dump on Sigma.
If you want very sharp 50mm that can punch into 75mm in crop mode, apo-lanthar manual focus, or cheap as chips viltrox air.]
The Simera also flares a bunch more, is much smaller and lighter, and I don't think it's quite as well made or as good as a lens but it's not bad at all and I'm glad to have it for a different look - and I can imagine some preferring that look. Note I have the M mount version and I think the E mount is basically the same - I don't know how it performs across the frame etc, I literally only used it with people and larger apertures so far. The Nokton renders sharpely across stopped down, soft and glowy (not great) up close and wide open. I often use it around f1.6. Longer distance f1.2 works well too, the glow goes away when it's further focus. Very close distance stop it down to lose the glow.
I would take a careful look at samples to see which look you prefer if you were hunting for a 50mm manual focus lens to use with people too.
The TTA 40/2 comes with autofocus, is very small (could get away with it on your neck/shoulder - very nimble with it), is closer to 37mm focal length, isn't well made but it renders quite nicely and very cheap but max f2 aperture. I would just grab this anyway, can be had on ebay brand new for like $150 or so, or just a little more direct from them, last I checked anyway.
I think for "most situations" something a little wider than 50 would be more comfortable for me personally. I always thought 35 was good for that - little easier with scenes and if fast enough then very useable for people too. I went with the Distagon ZM for that focal length and faster (though it's not exactly an "everyday" rendering style - it's quite snazzy). I like it but there's some drawbacks. Practically it's a bit longer with the adaptor, about the same weight as the nokton 50 (without the adaptor), corner smearing without a PCX filter at wider apertures. Another recommended one is the 35mm f1.7 Ultron. Bit of an issue with both of the last two in that if you don't want to remove a shim (which is very simple on the distagon - no experience with the ultron) then you need to find an adaptor that's out of spec to focus at infinity with the pcx, and I haven't had any luck with that. Otherwise f8 for sharp corners. I've decided on using the PCX only with longer range shots (it's basically a filter) and allows me to use around f4-5.6 (midzone dip noticeable on zooming when wider) instead of f5.6-8 for the scenes where I want better across frame sharpness without stopping down as much. Not an ideal situaton and the tta40/2 would make things a lot simpler, lighter, carefree etc. 40 Nokton f1.2 also but it's like 5mm tighter (37vs42 iirc). I don't have the 35mm f1.2 SE, I think it's a hair bigger than the 50. Sigma 35/2 is wider than 35. With the other slightly tighter options that I'm familiar with: Sigma 45 is nice but f2.8. Samyang 45/1.8 has very nice output too but a bit shoddy aesthetically.
If the rx1riii had tilt screen and ibis while retaining the size I'd suggest looking into that for everyday use despite f2, and imo it ought to for the price, but the a7cii and tta40mmf2/samyang 45f1.8 is a very good alternative, or the 40/1.2 nokton for more fun if you enjoy mf and more leeway with the aperture. Or leica m11 + 35 fle for a lot more money and still no ibis. x100 not so great with people imo. Fuji xe + 35/1.4 is nice but not the same as full frame....Show more →
Thanks! Doesn't look to bad! I have read a lot about the 50 1.2, like from https://gear.vogelius.se for example. He likes it very much and always produce great samples, it's been on my list to try but I haven't gotten a chance yet. It's not the end of the world however and I could also use a 35mm AF lens as this is not really meant for my most important photography. But it has to be something I like using and if the EVF is annoying to focus with or it's too unbalanced etc a smaller AF lens might be better. I might go for the RX1R III to save some money in that case.
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