Someone talk me out of buying one of these? Want it for the vintage/cool factor. Will probably go "full" hipster and get a leather case and bag for it as well.
2 has best OVF, 3 full of gimmicks. Don't see why anyone would buy ine unless they REALLY liked an OVF
I bought a Xpro2, love it, based on a lifetime of Leica M film camera use.
Round here likely to be considered decidedly un-hip, rooted in the past etc etc And I can see the point to some extent. But then I'm 81 and still get out my M3 bought in 68 for a caress now and again....
JadedWriter wrote:
Someone talk me out of buying one of these? Want it for the vintage/cool factor. Will probably go "full" hipster and get a leather case and bag for it as well.
I’m unclear from your post whether ryou want someone to talk you out of getting an XPro at all or to talk you out of getting one and into getting the other. I’ll respond t both possibilities.
For most people (even aspiring hipsters…) at this point I would not recommend an XPro. I had the XPro2 and it was a great camera when it was announced almost exactly a decade ago. DSLRs still ruled, and there were concerns about switching to a EVF-only camera, and the hybrid viewfinder was one say to allay those fears. In fact, that is largely why I got the XPro2 right when it was released. But since then, EVF displays have improved greatly and are now ubiquitous. In fact, over time, I found myself using the EVF far more than the OVF on my XPro..
I switched to the XT5 and I would not go back to an XPro at this point. Unless cost is your concern and you are buying an older camera to save money, there are better current cameras, even for the things that, uh, hipsters might like to shoot. I use myXT5 primarily for street photography and it is a great tool for that. The XE5 is another viable alternative for many people.
Now to part 2…
If you are trying to choose between the XPro2 and the XPro3, I think the XPro2 is a better choice. Despite having a slightly higher MP (26 versus 24, which is meaningless) the XPro3 seemed to many of us like a downgrade from the XPro2. I was prepared to buy the XPro3 before it was announced, but when it came out I was soured by the downgrade to the display (no longer gave two magnifications) and the rear display (the little square screen struck me as a dumb gimmick), so I held onto my XPro2 for a bit, gave up on Fujifilm continuing the XPro line, and happily moved on to the XT5.
JadedWriter wrote:
Someone talk me out of buying one of these? Want it for the vintage/cool factor. Will probably go "full" hipster and get a leather case and bag for it as well.
Did you want us to talk you out of being a hipster? or buying a camera?
Im not real familiar with the hipster look, might be pretty cool (I probably wouldn't do it, though, but maybe.) Spending $1200+ on a 10 year old 24mp camera isn't my 1st choice, though
Is 2016 vintage? sounds pretty new time flies.....
Went with the Dura Silver 3 since everything is like the same dang price and I'm pretty sure I'm just using the EVF on this any way. Picking it up tomorrow. Also because I'm kind of limited by what's in stock on Adorama and not beat to piss X-Pro 2's are hard to find and I didn't feel like importing from China on Ebay. RoamingScott wrote:
2, and in Graphite.
Using the optical finder always makes me feel more connected with the subject, I'm looking at 'the real thing'. Using an EVF is like I felt when looking at a 'ground glass screen' on a technical camera (but better since it's not upside-down!), I feel detached from the reality. To some extent I had similar feelings towards the SLR screen.
However, there's no doubting the immediacy of the EVF, it might feel 'processed' but it can be set up to show you exactly what you will get (accepting its limitations as a display), and after so long with film (and the Xpro OVF) having to visualise what you hope to get its quite amazing to think you are looking at the actual image that will be recorded.
I kind of do not like Fuji's implementation of the OVF since I never know what I'm focusing on since the AF points do not move around on them like they do on a DSLR. gyoung143 wrote:
Using the optical finder always makes me feel more connected with the subject, I'm looking at 'the real thing'. Using an EVF is like I felt when looking at a 'ground glass screen' on a technical camera (but better since it's not upside-down!), I feel detached from the reality. To some extent I had similar feelings towards the SLR screen.
However, there's no doubting the immediacy of the EVF, it might feel 'processed' but it can be set up to show you exactly what you will get (accepting its limitations as a display), and after so long with film (and the Xpro OVF) having to visualise what you hope to get its quite amazing to think you are looking at the actual image that will be recorded.
I'm interested in getting one of the X-Pro bodies (but I'm currently unwilling to pay the asking price).
My considerations:
X-Pro1 - Appealing as I have the original three lenses (18/2, 35/1.4, 60/2.4)
- No good for me as it has no eyepiece diopter adjustment
X-Pro2 - Appealing as it has improvements to pretty much everything, and an eyepiece diopter adjustment
X-Pro3 - Unappealing as it has the LCD flex cable issue and a somewhat gimmicky LCD implementation.
For me an X-Pro2 would be the most likely and logical choice.
I'll wait and see what the new X-Pro (4 or maybe 6) looks like, if it seems like a useful tool and is good in the hand, maybe I'll sell my X-E3 and X-T5 bodies and just have the new X-Pro.
JadedWriter wrote:
I kind of do not like Fuji's implementation of the OVF since I never know what I'm focusing on since the AF points do not move around on them like they do on a DSLR.
Don't understand what you mean, I use it on single point in the middle, af-s. It shows you what it has focussed on.
That's the thing I didn't like. I don't shoot with the AF point in the middle. I basically just maneuver the thing around and put it on what I want in focus. gyoung143 wrote:
Don't understand what you mean, I use it on single point in the middle, af-s. It shows you what it has focussed on.
Really a K1000 and 50/2 might be a better suggestion (50/1.7 A might get you out of any radioactivity concerns.) A flash would complete the look and be really useful in case a cute girl wants her picture taken in a dimly lit party or coffee shop, or for fill
Film might get you invited to more parties I'd guess. Expensive but you dont really have to use it much, really. Unless it's working as in "hey let's get this cool guy to take our picture on film!"
I don't see myself getting into film and if I do it'll be medium format film. AmbientMike wrote:
Really a K1000 and 50/2 might be a better suggestion (50/1.7 A might get you out of any radioactivity concerns.) A flash would complete the look and be really useful in case a cute girl wants her picture taken in a dimly lit party or coffee shop, or for fill
Film might get you invited to more parties I'd guess. Expensive but you dont really have to use it much, really. Unless it's working as in "hey let's get this cool guy to take our picture on film!"
Nah I'm good. AmbientMike wrote:
I think it would be more popular. More authentic. For social reasons 35mm probably fine and less expensive (not ~$5 a shot)
gyoung143 wrote:
Don't understand what you mean, I use it on single point in the middle, af-s. It shows you what it has focussed on.
Gerry
To be honest, it shows you approximately where the AF zone is and approximately where the frame edges are. It is not that accurate.
That’s fine for the kind of photography where super care with your composition may be less important than, say, getting a particular expression on the face of a subject. Maybe. In reality, that works well with the EVF, too.
But I don't want to look like a dick. Joseph. wrote:
Any of the X-Pros would work, but you should put money on a fedora hat, skinny jeans, and maybe a used Prius.
Joseph. wrote:
Any of the X-Pros would work, but you should put money on a fedora hat, skinny jeans, and maybe a used Prius.
Funny story about looking like... something.
A dozen years ago my first Fujifilm was the old XE1 with the 35mm f/1.4. I was walking along a narrow back street in Heidelberg, Germany near the university when a young fellow approached from the opposite direction. He was, as expected, entirely uninterested in me or the people I was with... until he saw the camera and exclaimed (in English), "Cool! A Leica!"
Also, is it just me, but doesn't it seem like the term "hipster" is now past its sell-by date?
I think I just want a fun camera that doesn't hit my work kit. If I decide to glam it up by putting it in a leather case then I don't care what the name for it is. gdanmitchell wrote:
Funny story about looking like... something.
A dozen years ago my first Fujifilm was the old XE1 with the 35mm f/1.4. I was walking along a narrow back street in Heidelberg, Germany near the university when a young fellow approached from the opposite direction. He was, as expected, entirely uninterested in me or the people I was with... until he saw the camera and exclaimed (in English), "Cool! A Leica!"
Also, is it just me, but doesn't it seem like the term "hipster" is now past its sell-by date?
or buying a camera?