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Long photo background, short version — I have owned virtually every digital camera brand mirrorless except Canon, though did own several Canon D series. My last Sony was their first mirrorless, so it’s been a long time. My main use will be landscape and travel, and I do a lot of night and street shooting when I travel.

For the camera I am pretty well set on the A7rv, but open to suggestions/comments on A1ii.

So on to lenses. I prefer smaller sizes for travel, and I don’t need optical speed for landscape. So first question is are the f4 G 16-35 and 24-105 zooms decent enough performers at f5.6-8 on the 60mp sensor? Are they at least decent wide open?

How are the Sony 50’s, 1.8 vs 1.4, primarily size vs f2 or f2.8 performance, as my night/street lens? Any 3rd party options worth considering instead?

I might want a versatile long zoom for occasional bird and wildlife, is the 200-600 a good option?

Finally I occasionally do astro, so contemplating the Sony 14 vs the Sigma 14 art?

Thanks in advance!



Jan 08, 2026 at 12:40 PM
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Jack, long time no hear. Until the successor has been announced, the A7r V seems to be indeed a great choice for your landscape needs. I would recommend that body over the A1 II if you are only rarely doing wildlife/bird photography.

Both G lenses you listed, are great performers although they are a little bit outdated compared to their current counterparts. Nowadays, I would choose the G 20-70 and G 16-25, They are smaller and lighter and they perform as well if not better than what you listed. if you want to stick to the G lenses, that is. There are other choices if you go for the GM lenses though.

I am not familiar with the Sony GM 50mm f/1.4. My favorite 50mm lens from Sony is the GM 50mm f/1.2. I do have their tiny f/1.8 version because just that tiny and light, and its performance is decent. There are 3rd party 50mm lenses that are highly regarded but I don't own them, like the Sigma 50mm f/2 DG DN and Viltrox Aiir 50mm f/2. My small and lightweight prime travel kit is: Viltrox Aur 14mm f/4, Sigma 35mm f/2 DG DN or Batis 40mm f/2 or Sigma 45mm f/2.8 DG DN, and for portraits, Sigma 65mm f/2 DG DN, TTArtisan 75mm f/2, Batis 85mm f/1.8 and Sigma 90mm f/2.8 DG DN.

Both the G 200-600mm and 400-800mm lenses are great for your occasional wildlife or bird photography needs.

I am sure others will chime in here. At any rate, good luck and I hope you find lenses that would meet you satisfaction, if you decide or shall we say, when you decide to move to Sony 😜.

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Jan 08, 2026 at 01:14 PM
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Jack Flesher wrote:
Long photo background, short version — I have owned virtually every digital camera brand mirrorless except Canon, though did own several Canon D series. My last Sony was their first mirrorless, so it’s been a long time. My main use will be landscape and travel, and I do a lot of night and street shooting when I travel.

For the camera I am pretty well set on the A7rv, but open to suggestions/comments on A1ii.

So on to lenses. I prefer smaller sizes for travel, and I don’t need optical speed for landscape. So first question is are the
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I have a9iii, A1ii and A7rv and A7rv is my preferred camera for everything except fast action. I only use it in mechanical shutter and the main reason is because it has visibly better IQ than the A1ii on a 5K Retina display.

I use the 16-35 f/4 PZ, 24-105 f/4, 85 f1.8, 20 f1.8 and 200-600, 300 f/2.8 and 600 f/4 + 1.4 and 2.xTCs

The A7r5 + 200-600 seems to be an excellent combination giving very sharp images and excellent colours - seems almost to be a better combination than the A1ii + 200-600.

Good luck, I don't think you will be disappointed - you might need to get a 5K Retina display to really appreciate the images.

Check my previous posts for links to full resolution A7r5 images.




Jan 08, 2026 at 04:06 PM
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Hey Jack. I switched to Sony from Nikon 3 years ago and the A7RV is my favorite landscape body of all time (I enjoy it much more than the GFX I had, partly due to incredible selection of lenses). The amount of nuanced detail captured at base ISO on a tripod is extremely satisfying. I also use it for candid portraits, travel, and occasional birds/wildlife.

Right now on our B&S forum from trustworthy member ysultan the A7RV is at the lowest price ever, $2795 new and $2595 open box, both from an authorized dealer with receipt in your name. I purchased my 3rd from him recently, the open box version, and everything was brand new with shutter count of 1.

I have been shooting the 16-35/4 PZ and its IQ along with very light weight make it a joy to have in the pack. I have also owned previously the 16-35/2.8 GM 1 & II but prefer the light weight of the PZ. I do also have the Sigma 14-24/2.8 and its IQ is stellar, even compared to primes. One of the beauties of the 16-35 is that range allows me to pair it with the very good Tamron 50-300 for a light small 2-lens kit covering everything needed for landscapes when I want to pack minimally. Normally I’m using the bigger brother Tamron 50-400mm and it may be my favorite landscape lens of all time.

I just finished a 3-month photo trip where the 24-105/4 was used extensively and my copy has very satisfying IQ. Before my trip I tested it at f/8 against my 24-70/2.8 GMII and I have a hard time seeing any differences - colors, contrast, sharpness are nearly identical at landscape apertures. Three of the images below are wide open at f/4 on the 24-105 where my copy still looks great.

Joshua has mentioned additional lenses that are great choices also (not my personal choice because I prefer the wider zoom ranges of 16-35 and 24-105). I had the 200-600 and it was great for birds/wildlife, and the 400-800 is another option. There are so many excellent optics in E mount that the hardest thing is choosing - there are many right answers!




  ILCE-7RM5    FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS lens    56mm    f/4.0    1/60s    1600 ISO    -1.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM5    FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS lens    105mm    f/4.0    1/250s    3200 ISO    -0.3 EV  






  ILCE-7RM5    FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS lens    54mm    f/16.0    1/25s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM5    FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS lens    37mm    f/4.0    1/2s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM5    FE PZ 16-35mm F4 G lens    16mm    f/16.0    1/80s    320 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM5    FE PZ 16-35mm F4 G lens    26mm    f/11.0    20s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  



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Jan 08, 2026 at 04:55 PM
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Jack Flesher wrote:
Long photo background, short version — I have owned virtually every digital camera brand mirrorless except Canon, though did own several Canon D series. My last Sony was their first mirrorless, so it’s been a long time. My main use will be landscape and travel, and I do a lot of night and street shooting when I travel.

For the camera I am pretty well set on the A7rv, but open to suggestions/comments on A1ii.

So on to lenses. I prefer smaller sizes for travel, and I don’t need optical speed for landscape. So first question is are the
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On the issue of which camera to get, I think there are some important advantages of the A1 II for your applications.

The sensor readout in the A7RV is very slow. If you are going to do a lot of travel/street/night shooting, you will often encounter LED or other types of modern lighting whose flicker will produce banding in images taken under electronic shutter on the A7RV. You won't have that problem under electronic shutter with the A1 II (or with the A1, for that matter) because it has a fast readout stacked sensor.

With the A7RV under electronic shutter you would also have problems with rolling shutter and subject movement that can result in subtle or gross distortion of faces and movements, especially when they are shot close to the camera.

If you are ok using mechanical shutter for all of your shooting, then the stacked shutter won't matter. But I find the silence of the electronic shutter to be a great advantage for night, travel, and street (and also for family and other events).

The only disdavantage of taking the A1 or A1 II instead of the A7RV is that the A7RV has about a stop more of DR up to 503 ISO. Above 503, they are the same in DR.

The two bodies are very close to the same size.


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Jan 08, 2026 at 05:41 PM
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Wow, thank you everyone for such great feedback and information! Definitely giving me options to consider.


Jan 08, 2026 at 06:26 PM
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Sigma lenses, especially Art series, are almost all designed with astro in mind. You're paying a size and weight penalty versus the Sony GM lenses. But if you're concerned with coma and aberrations, Sigma is a good choice.

One advantage with the Sony 14 GM is it's barrel diameter is small enough to fit 100mm filters rather than the larger 150mm glass you'll need to use on most alternatives including both the Sigma 14mm and 14-24mm.



Jan 08, 2026 at 07:58 PM
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I won't repeat what others already said; the 5th gen bodies are ergonomically and mechanically excellent. The only nitpick IMO with Sony is the inconsistent lens user experience due to the evolution of the lens ethos and third-party lens control. Sony G/GM zoom lenses since 2021 all have a similar experience, but the 24-105 is from 2017. Its button layout differs and has no aperture ring. Its also not as weather sealed as the newer lenses either. It's still a good lens and has consistent optical performance across the zoom range. I use a 24-105 for travel with an a9 II and the size/weight is about the limit of what I'd called balanced.



Jan 08, 2026 at 11:23 PM
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Having the a7RV, the files are a lot for computer churning but the details are amazing. The G or GM lenses are fantastic also. My preference goes to ones with an aperture ring but that is very subjective.

The only other thing I would look at if starting a kit from nothing would be the Nikon Z mounts with pre-capture. The lenses there might be a bit cheaper but equally well liked it seems. Good luck!



Jan 09, 2026 at 08:08 AM
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jeffro wrote:
Having the a7RV, the files are a lot for computer churning but the details are amazing. The G or GM lenses are fantastic also. My preference goes to ones with an aperture ring but that is very subjective.

The only other thing I would look at if starting a kit from nothing would be the Nikon Z mounts with pre-capture. The lenses there might be a bit cheaper but equally well liked it seems. Good luck!


Talking about pre-capture - are you aware that the pre-capture format of the current Nikon cameras is ony in JPG and not in RAW?



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Jack Flesher wrote:
Long photo background, short version — I have owned virtually every digital camera brand mirrorless except Canon, though did own several Canon D series. My last Sony was their first mirrorless, so it’s been a long time. My main use will be landscape and travel, and I do a lot of night and street shooting when I travel.

For the camera I am pretty well set on the A7rv, but open to suggestions/comments on A1ii.

So on to lenses. I prefer smaller sizes for travel, and I don’t need optical speed for landscape. So first question is are the
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I own the 50mm f/1.8, but not the 50mm f/1.4. I will echo Joshua's comments and say the 50/1.8 is a small, light, decent performer. It's also reasonably priced compared to some other Sony options. You may want to take a look at the Sigma options too. I tested the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 and Sigma 50mm f/1.2 II briefly and they are nice lenses.

I own the 24-105. It's a decent, workhorse lens for me. It's sharp and reliable. I have noticed that it does not fully resolve at times and this is on sensors up to 50MP (the A1), but that has only been evident a few times. Mostly it performs well.

If you want a smaller versatile bird/wildlife lens, the Sony 100-400 is a good option. It performs well in most facets - sharp, IS works fine, fast focusing - and is the size of a 70-200/2.8. You can use the Sony 1.4x extender on it, but the 2x is not recommended. The 200-600 is a step up from the 100-400 in size. It's sharp, but the focus is not as dialed in as the 100-400 at times. You can use the 1.4x and 2x extenders on the 200-600, but I would limit it to 1.4x. My spouse has 400-600 - it's bigger than the 200-600 and it's harder to hand hold than the 200-600. The IQ is roughly equivalent to the 200-600, but a little better on the long end than the 200-600 with an extender. If you are open to additional options, the Sony 300mm f/2.8 has mostly replaced all three of the zooms for me. I use it with the 1.4x and 2x extenders with almost no penalty, so you get 300, 420, and 600mm with that combo. The 300 with and without the extenders outresolves the 100-400, 200-600, and 400-800, and the focus is substantially faster and more accurate.

As for astro lenses, my spouse owns the Sony 14mm f/1.8 and I own the Sigma 14mm f/1.4. That's a long discussion and there is another thread on the boards where I discuss how I use the Sigma. In brief, the Sony is much smaller and lighter, but not as sharp as the Sigma. Of the two, I think the Sony is the more versatile lens for stuff other than astro. The Sigma has killer astro features in it - it is purpose-built for astro. Neither lens is flat field so you have to work them to get the results you want and if you want sharp across the entire frame, you will need to stop both down. The key point is that if you learn how to use the Sigma, you can get round stars at f/1.4 in the extreme periphery at 100%, which is amazing. The only other lens that can do that is the Sigma 15mm f/1.4 fisheye, which gets even more pinpoint stars at f/1.4, but you have to work around the limitations of it being a fisheye.

I have posted a lot of shots from a few lenses mentioned in my post. You can see them here:

24-105: https://www.flickr.com/photos/68498746@N08/albums/72157712520174923/

100-400: https://www.flickr.com/photos/68498746@N08/albums/72157695536839521/

200-600: https://www.flickr.com/photos/68498746@N08/albums/72157710297553562



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Jan 09, 2026 at 08:57 AM
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I don't know about zoom or tele, but I have tried nearly all the 50mm possibilities, and will mention only what I think is a great option.
I won't talk about rendering since it is really subjective.
I won't talk about astro, I never do that.
If it is for landscape, AF is not an issue either. But "qui peut le plus peut le moins!"

So if optical speed is less important than weight, then there are two options:

Viltrox air 50mm. I mean it is indeed incredible. (better than the g, or the 1.8, or sigma c...)

If manual focusing the voigtlander apo.

Both are way above other lenses (sony or third part)

If you want more optical speed, but if size and weight are still important I would recommand the gm 1.4 which can be considered as a perfect lens.

My every day 50mm is the nokton 1.2, because it looks more retro than professionnal (which is a plus for casual portraits in a pub), it has a special something -to my eyes. It is small, and can be very sharp at 5.6. (but never on the same level in the corners as those mentioned above)

But if I know I will make only landscape, then I take the viltrox.



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chiron wrote:
On the issue of which camera to get, I think there are some important advantages of the A1 II for your applications.

The sensor readout in the A7RV is very slow. If you are going to do a lot of travel/street/night shooting, you will often encounter LED or other types of modern lighting whose flicker will produce banding in images taken under electronic shutter on the A7RV. You won't have that problem under electronic shutter with the A1 II (or with the A1, for that matter) because it has a fast readout stacked sensor.

With the A7RV under electronic shutter you
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With the A7RV you basically never ever want to use electronic shutter. This way the readout speed (with mechanical shutter) is better than the A1ii in electronic.

We get an indication of this from the sync speed. The A7RV in mechanical has a flash sync of 1/250s, and the A1ii in electronic has a flash sync of 1/200. This means that the readout of the A7RV in mechanical should be faster than the A1ii in electronic.

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Jan 09, 2026 at 10:20 AM
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AGeoJO wrote:
Talking about pre-capture - are you aware that the pre-capture format of the current Nikon cameras is ony in JPG and not in RAW?


Yes. Compromises all around for any brand, but the Z line would be my only other consideration if I were looking at a new kit other than Sony.



Jan 09, 2026 at 10:23 AM
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jeffro wrote:
Yes. Compromises all around for any brand, but the Z line would be my only other consideration if I were looking at a new kit other than Sony.


If you go over to the Nikon board, many of them never use pre-capture because you lose raw. Its too big of a price to pay.

I would pick Canon's pre-capture implementation over Nikon.



Jan 09, 2026 at 10:25 AM
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With the A7RV you basically never ever want to use electronic shutter. This way the readout speed (with mechanical shutter) is better than the A1ii in electronic.

We get an indication of this from the sync speed. The A7RV in mechanical has a flash sync of 1/250s, and the A1ii in electronic has a flash sync of 1/200. This means that the readout of the A7RV in mechanical should be faster than the A1ii in electronic.



Hm, okay, I could have sworn that the sync speed of the A1/A1 II is 1/400sec... I use it at that speed, as matter of fact and it works.



Jan 09, 2026 at 10:35 AM
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A1 is 1/400 with sync speed priority + mech shutter, and 1/200 with e-shutter.


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Hm, okay, I could have sworn that the sync speed of the A1/A1 II is 1/400sec... I use it at that speed, as matter of fact and it works.


The 1/400 s flash sync is achieved with the mechanical shutter enabled.

However, on the A1/A1 II, “mechanical shutter” can introduce issues when using fast apertures and high shutter speeds. This is because these cameras do not have a true fully mechanical shutter; what Sony labels as mechanical is actually electronic front-curtain shutter (EFCS).

As a result, using HSS at high shutter speeds with wide apertures on the A1/A1ii causes f/1.4 bokeh to look like f/2.8.

On the other hand, using HSS with electronic shutter causes banding

For this reason you really want to use ND filters rather than HSS.



Jan 09, 2026 at 10:45 AM
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AGeoJO wrote:
Jack, long time no hear. Until the successor has been announced, the A7r V seems to be indeed a great choice for your landscape needs. I would recommend that body over the A1 II if you are only rarely doing wildlife/bird photography.


That issue is relevant to me, as another person who is (slowly) contemplating a potential move to Sony. I’m interested in hearing more about the boundary between the A1 II and the A7rV for someone who shoots a lot of landscape subjects… and who does also do serious wildlife (mostly birds) photography.

I think I get the potential downsides of the A7rV for wildlife photography, though I’m actually OK with a camera that isn’t a burst mode monster. (I’m not convinced that I need more than, say, 10 fps.).

I’m less clear on the downsides of the A1 II as a landscape camera, aside from the slightly lower pixel density.

Thoughts welcomed.



Jan 09, 2026 at 10:53 AM
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aCuria wrote:
The 1/400 s flash sync is achieved with the mechanical shutter enabled.

However, on the A1/A1 II, “mechanical shutter” can introduce issues when using fast apertures and high shutter speeds. This is because these cameras do not have a true fully mechanical shutter; what Sony labels as mechanical is actually electronic front-curtain shutter (EFCS).

As a result, using HSS at high shutter speeds with wide apertures on the A1/A1ii causes f/1.4 bokeh to look like f/2.8.

On the other hand, using HSS with electronic shutter causes banding

For this reason you really want to use ND filters rather than HSS.


The EFCS rears its ugly head at shutter speed of 1/1000 sec or higher, IMHO.



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