I had an X100T that I ran pretty easily, but it seems to me that for some reason my X100VI is constantly changing some mode or parameter. I think all the buttons are great, but sometimes I wish the camera would act ‘dumb’, you know, like a 1970s camera.
On/off
ISO
Shutter speed with A lock
Aperture with A lock
And the expsure compensation
Center AF
And lock down all the other buttons so that you aren’t having odd stuff pop up
I’ts nice to have all the other functions, and I’m not saying get rid fo them, just make it so that you aren’t having to figure our what went sideways…
The fanboyz will jumping in claiming it already is 1970 retro... But! This is precisely the reason I prefer a true PSAM interface to Fuji's rather un-intuitive A implementation on their retro cameras. If the lens has no aperture ring, then the cams default to the command wheel for it. But if the lens has an aperture ring, you must use it or go into the menus and force the command wheel to change Aperture. Ridiculous implementation. I've literally sold 2 Fuji XT cameras because of this annoying absurdity, and the main reasons I avoid both the XE5 and X100vi going forward -- love the way they look, hate them in use... Dear Fuji, put a frigging PSAM on every camera even if it's only accessible in the Q menu!
anselwannab wrote:
I had an X100T that I ran pretty easily, but it seems to me that for some reason my X100VI is constantly changing some mode or parameter. I think all the buttons are great, but sometimes I wish the camera would act ‘dumb’, you know, like a 1970s camera.
On/off
ISO
Shutter speed with A lock
Aperture with A lock
And the expsure compensation
Center AF
And lock down all the other buttons so that you aren’t having odd stuff pop up
I’ts nice to have all the other functions, and I’m not saying get rid fo them, just make it so that you aren’t having to figure our what went sideways…...Show more →
You can set every Function Button in the menue to "None" - it won't do anything then. That leaves you with the aperture ring, the exposure time wheel including A, P, and B) and the Exposure Compensation dial on the X-E5.You can select ISO with the front wheel. It doesn't really get much simpler and easier to use. Like in the 70ies.
Jack Flesher wrote:
The fanboyz will jumping in claiming it already is 1970 retro... But! This is precisely the reason I prefer a true PSAM interface to Fuji's rather un-intuitive A implementation on their retro cameras. If the lens has no aperture ring, then the cams default to the command wheel for it. But if the lens has an aperture ring, you must use it or go into the menus and force the command wheel to change Aperture. Ridiculous implementation. I've literally sold 2 Fuji XT cameras because of this annoying absurdity, and the main reasons I avoid both the XE5 and X100vi going forward -- love the way they look, hate them in use... Dear Fuji, put a frigging PSAM on every camera even if it's only accessible in the Q menu! ...Show more →
I'm trying to understand why you have to go to the menu to do this. As soon as I switch my lens to A on the aperture ring, its controlled by the dial. Are you saying that when using a third party lens with an aperture ring but no A setting, you have to menu dive?
SGinNorcal wrote:
I'm trying to understand why you have to go to the menu to do this. As soon as I switch my lens to A on the aperture ring, its controlled by the dial. Are you saying that when using a third party lens with an aperture ring but no A setting, you have to menu dive?
A lot of fuji lenses have no “a” setting or switch on the aperture ring either. And yes, in addition to setting every other dial to A, you have to then dig into the menu for the command wheel and set the option to force aperture adjustments. A simple PSAM option would eliminate this problem, and I’d be fine if it was in the Q menu.
Jack Flesher wrote:
A lot of fuji lenses have no “a” setting or switch on the aperture ring either. And yes, in addition to setting every other dial to A, you have to then dig into the menu for the command wheel and set the option to force aperture adjustments. A simple PSAM option would eliminate this problem, and I’d be fine if it was in the Q menu.
All the legacy f1.4/1.2 lenses and the new ones have an "A" setting, so do the Fujicrons including the 90f2, and the 27f2.8 as well as the 23f2.8. The 14f2.8 has an "A" setting, as do the 50-140, the 16-80 and the 16-55. If I am not mistaken, only zooms which don't have a constant f-stop don't have aperture markings and hence no "A"
P.S.: The Sigma 12f1.4 has an A, too. And newer Viltrox lenses. Me, I don't use lenses w/o aperture ring on my Fujis (except for the 15-45 on rare occasions).
Jack Flesher wrote:
A lot of fuji lenses have no “a” setting or switch on the aperture ring either. And yes, in addition to setting every other dial to A, you have to then dig into the menu for the command wheel and set the option to force aperture adjustments. A simple PSAM option would eliminate this problem, and I’d be fine if it was in the Q menu.
I'm not against having different configurations to choose from. But even my variable aperture Fuji's have an "A" switch. All the others have "A" on the ring, as do my Viltrox and Sigma lenses. I have a Samyang with no ring at all and it automatically defaults to the command dial when I mount it, and back when removed. Even my Fringer adapters have an "A" mode. None require entering a menu to make the switch.
SGinNorcal wrote:
I'm not against having different configurations to choose from. But even my variable aperture Fuji's have an "A" switch. All the others have "A" on the ring, as do my Viltrox and Sigma lenses. I have a Samyang with no ring at all and it automatically defaults to the command dial when I mount it, and back when removed. Even my Fringer adapters have an "A" mode. None require entering a menu to make the switch.
Well perhaps MY XT5 and XT4 were defective, or more likely I was doing something else wrong, but I HAD to change the command wheel menu to APERTURE in order to get a true A mode using the command wheel. Without changing that first, those cameras defaulted to Program mode. For ME, PSAM on the XH2/GFX100's are way more intuitive. I will defer to you experts on the rest.
Jack Flesher wrote:
Well perhaps MY XT5 and XT4 were defective, or more likely I was doing something else wrong, but I HAD to change the command wheel menu to APERTURE in order to get a true A mode using the command wheel. Without changing that first, those cameras defaulted to Program mode. For ME, PSAM on the XH2/GFX100's are way more intuitive. I will defer to you experts on the rest.
I think in my case its more of a dumb luck approach rather than intentions. I suspect I once mapped aperture to a command dial and don't recall having done it. And of course that doesn't work unless you are in "A" mode. Cheers Jack!
SGinNorcal wrote:
I think in my case its more of a dumb luck approach rather than intentions. I suspect I once mapped aperture to a command dial and don't recall having done it. And of course that doesn't work unless you are in "A" mode. Cheers Jack!
Maybe some can check this for me. On some other bodies, workign with lenses that don’t have aperture rings, I recall that the dial-set apertures are not “sticky” — e.g. if you use the dial to pick and aperture and then turn the camera off and back on it won’t go back to the aperture you selected.
gdanmitchell wrote:
Maybe some can check this for me. On some other bodies, workign with lenses that don’t have aperture rings, I recall that the dial-set apertures are not “sticky” — e.g. if you use the dial to pick and aperture and then turn the camera off and back on it won’t go back to the aperture you selected.
Dan, how it works on my XH2 is like this:
If I am in A mode and set to f5.6 at ISO 800 and turn the camera off, when I turn it back on, I will be at f5.6 and ISO 800.
Now let's assume use Custom Function 1. Say I've set it to A mode with all my other film style and file settings, and had the aperture set to f5.6 and ISO set at 200 when I saved it. If I turn the camera on and go to C1 my cam will be in A mode at f5.6 and ISO 200. While in C1 now if I change the aperture to f4 and ISO to 3200, take a few pictures and turn the camera off, when I turn it back on I'm still in C1, but my aperture and ISO will revert back to the saved values of f5.6 and ISO 200 instead of sticking where I last used them. However! There's another Custom function menu item, and that's Auto Update Custom Setting; enable or disable -- the above scenario would be if I had this disabled. Conversely if I enable it, my last used settings will now be auto-saved and stick where I left them next time I turn the camera on. IOW, for Custom Function use I can set my camera up to behave either way, stick or revert to initially saved.
