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p.1 #1 · R5 mechanical shutter vs. electronic shutter


I am considering a Canon R5 (original) for wildlife photography. The electronic shutter often creates oddly curved distorted images of rapidly moving subjects (such as wings of flying birds) due to slow sensor readout speed (rolling shutter effect).

Are these distortions eliminated by using the mechanical shutter in the Canon R5?

Thank you for your responses.

Gratefully,

Tom



Dec 15, 2025 at 02:51 PM
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p.1 #2 · R5 mechanical shutter vs. electronic shutter


Yes, mecanical shutter eliminates the rolling shutter issue. That is how we can still get away with the R7 for wildlife photo with its slow sensor. The read out speed is twice as slow as the R5 sensor.


Dec 15, 2025 at 02:55 PM
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gilles.t wrote:
Yes, mecanical shutter eliminates the rolling shutter issue. That is how we can still get away with the R7 for wildlife photo with its slow sensor. The read out speed is twice as slow as the R5 sensor.


I wouldn’t go quite that far. You can still get similar distortions of moving objects with mechanical focal plane shutters, though they may be less obvious



Dec 15, 2025 at 04:08 PM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
I wouldn’t go quite that far. You can still get similar distortions of moving objects with mechanical focal plane shutters, though they may be less obvious


True, but it will be edge/extreme cases and most of the time it will be difficult to identify as shutter-related distortion.

grebe wrote:
I am considering a Canon R5 (original) for wildlife photography. The electronic shutter often creates oddly curved distorted images of rapidly moving subjects (such as wings of flying birds) due to slow sensor readout speed (rolling shutter effect).

Are these distortions eliminated by using the mechanical shutter in the Canon R5?

Thank you for your responses.

Gratefully,

Tom


If it will be your first R body, please also keep in mind that in mechanical/EFCS modes that frame rate can be more significantly impacted by the lenses you use, particularly if adapting older EF lenses (released prior to around 2010-2012). Specific EF lens compatibility info is listed in the R5 manual. Frame rate can also be impacted by use of third party batteries. The camera will drop out of maximum H+ mechanical/EFCS frame rate after the Canon LP-E6NH battery drops to around 45% state of charge. This happens around 75% with third party 'clone' batteries (there may be exceptions but I'm not aware of any).



Dec 15, 2025 at 05:12 PM
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IMHO the R5 is a magnificent wildlife and landscape camera. I was on a bird photography trip in Costa Rica when the R5 II was officially announced, The three of us carrying R5s agreed that we didn't need anything more than what we had. That is still true for me today. I'll add though that if you are a dedicated BIF or sports shooter, the frame rate and precapture of the Mk II might make a difference.

I've had no issue with the electronic shutter except the over abundance of images to cull through. Generally the EFCS mechanical shutter has been sufficient. Stick with the RF L zooms or better to get the most out of your R5. The R5 and 100-500 is magic.



Dec 16, 2025 at 12:25 PM
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Jeff Nolten wrote:
IMHO the R5 is a magnificent wildlife and landscape camera. I was on a bird photography trip in Costa Rica when the R5 II was officially announced, The three of us carrying R5s agreed that we didn't need anything more than what we had. That is still true for me today. I'll add though that if you are a dedicated BIF or sports shooter, the frame rate and precapture of the Mk II might make a difference.

I've had no issue with the electronic shutter except the over abundance of images to cull through. Generally the EFCS mechanical shutter has
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The R5 is a brilliant camera, and the R5ii is even better in some ways. Aside from the advantages of precapture, less rolling shutter and marginal improvements, the AF is better. For example, I find the RF 200-800 focuses erratically for BIF (unlike the RF 100-500 which is superb) on the R5 but on the R5ii it is rather good.



Dec 16, 2025 at 04:21 PM
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p.1 #7 · R5 mechanical shutter vs. electronic shutter


The R5 has 16.3ms read speed (1/60s) . The R5 drops from 14bit to 12 bit when in electronic mode. The fps of R5 is 20fps in electronic (at fastest) and 12fps (at fastest) in EFCS. Mechanical shutter is also 12fps.

The R5 has maximum dynamic range with efcs and mechanical. It does that because it avoids moving to 12bit which reduces dynamic range.

Mechanical introduces more vibration than EFCS because it has a heavy shutter at the beginning that causes vibration that can spill into noise at certain exposures. eg 1/20 to 1/200 per second. [Normally outside of landscape in early and late light]. Thus if you shooting with a desire for best bokeh (portraits) you are likely to be best with mechanical mode because you can control the shutter speed (with lighting), you have the maximum dynamic range, and you will have best bokeh.

Aside from well lit portraiture. You are likely to be better served by efcs to avoid mechanical vibration of the shutter. You will get the best dynamic range, and up to 12 fps. There is still vibration dampening (noise) in subsequent pictures from the previous picture, but not from the opening shutter. EFCS is always better than mechanical for shutter noise, but as you rise up to the maximum 12fps you introduce some noise (albeit without the opening shutter and much lower) you have noise from the previous shot (in the 1/50 to 1/250 range).

Moving to electronic removes any shutter vibration and achieves 20fps but at the cost of rolling shutter and lower dynamic range.However, the advantages of higher dynamic range are overwhelmed by higher noise, such that at iso 800 (very small) and 1600 (unmeasurable) so that mechanical and efcs dynamic range advantage don't matter. Thus for most wildlife/action (low light, high shutter speed necessitate higher than iso 800), the electronic shutter has no dynamic range downgrade.

Then you get into extremes. Electronic has read speed of 16.3ms or 1/60s. At very high magnification (eg long lens) magnifies the effect of rolling shutter. A rule of thumb is that if you shooting a very fast object (birds, sports) [and are bothered by rolling shutter] with more than 100mm lens, use efcs, to avoid rolling shutter. This changes to 400mm as the threshold with slow moving objects (eg bears). However IS causes even more blur (is wobble combined with slow read) with electronic/slow read speed reducing the mm to about 200mm, before you switch to efcs, for managing slow read speed for electronic. Ultimately if you shooting over long distances you have to choose rolling shutter distortion [electronic 20fps] vs missing the action (efcs lower fps and higher dynamic range >iso800).

So in summary,

- if you can manage complexity, use mechanical outside of 1/160-1/250s, for portraiture. Use efcs for landscape, and every day slow shots where you fps are low. Use efcs where rolling shutter is not significant - slow subjects. And use electronic for fps if you can stomach the rolling shutter and noise from shutter, and are not shooting really long mm.

- Your head will spin making all these choices to perfection. My strategy is - use EFCS for landscape and general shooting - higher dynamic range without shutter vibration blur. Use electronic for wildlife for fps. If high mm lens, I switch to EFCS, if I have time.


- I have programed c1 to be EFCS (and AEB, 2s delay, ...) for landscape ont tripod, c2 to be electronic for travel/general, and c3 to be electronic (and fast fps, servo, centre ...) for wildlife/action on both my R5 and R5ii. My default is to use my r5ii for wildlife with electronic because it has much higher read speed (okay up to 800mm), and remain in electronic 30fps. I use my r5 for landscape (more dynamic range) and general use (cost less if I drop it or its stolen).

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Dec 17, 2025 at 08:35 AM
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Why would the EFCS be better than MS other than the reduced shutter shock? Both are 14-bit A/D excpet in H+ which is 13 bits. ES is 12 bits so a bit worse at low ISO.

EBH



Dec 17, 2025 at 09:00 AM
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I'll caveat what I'm about to say with the statement that I am *not* primarily a wildlife shooter (let alone BIF!), and also that my preferences should in no way be interpreted as an implied criticism of anyone who works differently.

But, having grown up shooting sports on motorized film cameras where 5fps was state of the art, I find that 12fps in EFCS mode on modern mirrorless bodies is perfectly great for nearly any action situation I encounter.

Having only transitioned to mirrorless cameras in 2022, I am also reminded that 12 fps exceeds the best DSLR framerates in all but the flagship sports bodies. The 5D Mark IV, for example, topped out at 7fps, IIRC. And interestingly, while my 1DX Mark II's could do 14 fps, I always set its maximum high-speed rate to 12 fps anyway. (This was to reduce the risk of oil spatter, but also for some reason this framerate just felt natural to me.)

In the rare cases where I switch to fully electronic shutter, it is usually to minimize noise, not to obtain the highest framerates. (Also, I shoot equestrian sports, and I find that panning with a horse and rider over a jump will cause visible warping of the jump standards when using electronic shutter, so I tend to avoid it for that reason too.)

The downside of EFCS or mechanical is more viewfinder blackout, but I'm used to this from DSLRs anyway, and it hasn't really hampered my ability to work.

At some future point we will no doubt see technology like that in the R1 become more affordable or even have fully global shutters without compromises in dynamic range or noise.

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p.1 #10 · R5 mechanical shutter vs. electronic shutter


EB-1 wrote:
Why would the EFCS be better than MS other than the reduced shutter shock? Both are 14-bit A/D excpet in H+ which is 13 bits. ES is 12 bits so a bit worse at low ISO.

EBH


I will re-read what I posted. For R5 (r7 and r8) EFCS is only better than mechanical in noise/shutter shock. EFCS and mechanical are better than electronic in dynamic range at iso<800 and rolling shutter. Electronic is better than efcs/mech in fps.


BTW - I queried AI and it recommended for me:

r5 - default is efcs. [better than electronic for dynamic range <800iso, better than mechanical for vibration, better for longer mm (200mm+) for motion distortion. Use electronic only if you really need 20fps vs 12fps or silent.

Same for r7.

Electronic generally for R5II (because it remains at 14bit and has fast read speed and no vibration).

possibly set up to c3 at efcs and c2 at electronic. Depending what you are shooting.





Dec 17, 2025 at 09:23 AM
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p.1 #11 · R5 mechanical shutter vs. electronic shutter


Done forget that EFCS messes up your expensive lenses Bokeh at faster shutter speeds.


Dec 18, 2025 at 07:58 PM
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p.1 #12 · R5 mechanical shutter vs. electronic shutter


GabrielPhoto wrote:
Done forget that EFCS messes up your expensive lenses Bokeh at faster shutter speeds.


Please explain.



Dec 19, 2025 at 01:23 PM
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p.1 #13 · R5 mechanical shutter vs. electronic shutter


Jeff Nolten wrote:
Please explain.


https://petapixel.com/2018/12/07/psa-electronic-front-curtain-shutter-may-be-quietly-hurting-your-bokeh/

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1825305/0

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1695320/

https://www.tiktok.com/@coverstone.photography/video/7575269874616913182





Dec 19, 2025 at 03:11 PM
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p.1 #14 · R5 mechanical shutter vs. electronic shutter


It's mainly an issue with the fastest lenses wide open.
I don't notice it with the 500/4 though it's not the most expensive, under $10K.

EBH



Dec 19, 2025 at 03:48 PM
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It's lens, aperture and shutter speed dependent. Generally I'd say the faster the lens and higher than around 1/2000 it starts to become noticeable, if you look for it.

It would be nice if Canon added a menu option to automatically switch EFCS to either e-shutter or mechanical when a shutter speed higher than whatever threshold you've set is being use, whether in auto exposure or manual exposure.

It's one of the reasons I got an R5II for the stacked sensor and broad usability and frame rate options it allows in e-shutter. Quite often with the R6II in EFCS, shooting events with fast lenses outdoors, the shutter speed has ended up closer to 1/8000, where the bokeh distortion becomes very noticeable if you understand what you're looking at. On the other hand, if you want an edgy, skewed 'busy' bokeh effect, it's not half bad and sometimes I quite like it. At least to the point I won't delete the images if the subject content is good.

Below is a crop of shot from a wedding with the R6II, 28-70/2 at 33mm, 1/5000 f/2 in EFCS.

High shutter speed in EFCS truncates bokeh balls and in this image, you'll notice that the bottom half of bokeh balls looks normal while the top half fades away, resulting in kind of a crescent moon type of effect. It would have been more noticeable with a longer focal length, but I didn't have any readily available. Other photos from that wedding with the EF 85/1.4 at similar shutter speeds showed the effect more subtly because it was very background dependent. Without OOF specular light sources, it's much less noticeable and generally inoffensive.




Dec 19, 2025 at 11:07 PM
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Jeff Nolten wrote:
Please explain.

The first video I ever did was about that then I did a new one below in response to a VERY wrong video made by Manny Ortiz:




Dec 20, 2025 at 09:54 AM
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Ok, thanks!


Dec 20, 2025 at 12:28 PM







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