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johnctharp wrote:
Sure! And basically anything Leica that isn't a rangefinder (M-mount) also does video...
The video features on the Canon cameras that have a separate firmware for video that you physically switch over to... annoy you? Have you tried not flipping that switch?
There's absolutely a utility to a camcorder form-factor when doing run-and-gun video.
But here's the thing. Every feature that makes a camera a better stills camera - faster readout speeds, faster processing speeds, cleaner readout, faster refreshes for back screen and viewfinder... all of this literally makes the camera good for video too.
Which means that, unless you're Leica and cashing in on your brand's caché by intentionally excluding features, video features help make production runs financially viable and cost camera makers little extra to include now that they've been mostly figured and advances are fairly incremental (like they are for stills).
Essentially, including video features makes photo cameras cheaper....Show more →
The Canon R6II has 10 menu screens dedicated to video. I would dare say that's a bit more than "just a switch". In my non-video-user opinion, that's just unnecessary clutter.
I would understand your point if Canon stopped all production of every one of their current camera models to sell only a retro body with no video features, but as I mentioned before, we don't need "yet another hybrid camera". One model with no video "features" is not going to bankrupt Canon. There will be many customers like myself who would buy it. For those who want video, they can choose any of Canon's current 15 or so camera models which already include video features.
p.3 #2 · The Coming Canon ‘Retro’ Camera to Use Latest 32.5MP Sensor
snegron7 wrote:
The Canon R6II has 10 menu pages dedicated to video. I would dare say that's a bit more than "just a switch". In my non-video-user opinion, that's just unnecessary clutter.
I would understand your point if Canon stopped all production of every one of their current camera midels to sell only a retro body with no video features, but as I mentioned before, we don't need "yet another hybrid camera". One model with no video "features" is not going to bankrupt Canon. There will be many customers line myself who would buy it. For those who want video, they can choose any of Canon's current 15 or so camera models which already include video features ...Show more →
Wouldn’t be great to get a custom made camera just for your specific needs. I don’t ever shoot shutter mode…get rid of that annoying feature. When shooting landscapes, I always manual focus…get rid of anything AF. I never use the P mode…off with it’s head.
p.3 #3 · The Coming Canon ‘Retro’ Camera to Use Latest 32.5MP Sensor
chez wrote:
Wouldn’t be great to get a custom made camera just for your specific needs. I don’t ever shoot shutter mode…get rid of that annoying feature. When shooting landscapes, I always manual focus…get rid of anything AF. I never use the P mode…off with it’s head.
Awesome! Where can I sign up for one? 😀
It's a good thing video is now a standard "required" feature on all cameras. I'll never understand how humanity survived without video features on cameras in the past! We all know that Pulitzer Prizes were never awarded to people who only shot still images, and thank goodness National Geographic has been featuring video images in their magazines since the late 1800's! Even my old Nikon D200's spontaneously disintegrated in my hands the moment Nikon announced the D300 with a video feature! We should even take it a step further; why not eliminate the uselss "still image capture" feature altogether on all cameras from this point forward? After all, we are no longer allowed to be called either Photographers or videographers; we are now "content creators". 😀
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Interesting for sure but I hope Canon is also releasing some new picture styles/camera profiles with this camera. You can't be 15 years late to the party, design a retro body, slam an R6 Mark III sensor in there and call it a day.
Nostalgia is about the whole chain. Images need to look warm, vibrant (not anemic) and retro/filmic. Here's an idea - reverse engineer the Canon 5D "Classic" sensor color response and profiles. That would be awesome.
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boldcolors wrote:
Interesting for sure but I hope Canon is also releasing some new picture styles/camera profiles with this camera. You can't be 15 years late to the party, design a retro body, slam an R6 Mark III sensor in there and call it a day.
Nostalgia is about the whole chain. Images need to look warm, vibrant (not anemic) and retro/filmic. Here's an idea - reverse engineer the Canon 5D "Classic" sensor color response and profiles. That would be awesome.
p.3 #6 · The Coming Canon ‘Retro’ Camera to Use Latest 32.5MP Sensor
I'd guess it's going to be pretty similar to the Zf. Nothing too complicated
I hope Canon does more to compete against Fuji, I think they could do that pretty easily. Is the X100VI even readily available yet, even older fuji bodies have gone up, more retro than tech imo. R50 is really lightweight, so are R8, RP
p.3 #7 · The Coming Canon ‘Retro’ Camera to Use Latest 32.5MP Sensor
AmbientMike wrote:
I'd guess it's going to be pretty similar to the Zf. Nothing too complicated
I hope Canon does more to compete against Fuji, I think they could do that pretty easily. Is the X100VI even readily available yet, even older fuji bodies have gone up, more retro than tech imo. R50 is really lightweight, so are R8, RP
I'm so annoyed at this Tik Tok trend. I was interested in maybe picking up an older X100 until I saw what happened to the prices. I want a camera to take pictures. These clowns just want to pose with it on Instagram.
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EB-1 wrote:
Meh. We don't need another medium res body in an archaic body design. We need a R5r...
EBH
Ten years later, I'm still using the 5DsR for my landscape photography because... it works. But I'm quite disappointed that Canon seems to have let that high-res sub-line expire with no R5r high resolution version.
The R5ii is obviously a very capable camera, but for some of us it is disappointing to see it limited to 45MP... when the 5DsR had 50MP and Sony goes to 60MP.
The lack of such a camera will likely lead me to move to Sony during the next year or so.
Regarding the retro camera concept: FWIW, I went "full retro" with a Fujifilm XPro2 when it came out. It was and is a fine camera and in some ways — notably its hybrid viewfinder — it will be regarded as a classic going forward. However, after working with such a camera extensively, I actually prefer a more modern mirrorless design at this point. In my case, that is their XT5. It doesn't cripple that camera by leaving our useful features, but it does supply the full manual control interface that is the main attraction of these things.
Again, I think that one big challenge for Canon if they decide to "take on Fujifilm" in the su-called "retro camera" space is that Fujifilm produces a full line-up of lenses that also embrace the retro concept, having aperture rings. I can't see Canon doing that, so I suspect that this will either be a fixed lens rangefinder-style body or something with a couple of retro-ish lenses only.
YMMV.
Dec 10, 2025 at 11:47 AM
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p.3 #9 · The Coming Canon ‘Retro’ Camera to Use Latest 32.5MP Sensor
Mike_5D wrote:
I'm so annoyed at this Tik Tok trend. I was interested in maybe picking up an older X100 until I saw what happened to the prices. I want a camera to take pictures. These clowns just want to pose with it on Instagram.
I am glad people are interested in a classic camera, vs a phone.
The R50 + rf 28 (rf 50/1.8 not much heavier) might not be as retro, it is lighter than the X100VI, probably far more capable and not $1799 out of stock, if you're just interested in taking photos. Sigma primes available in addition to massively more lenses, Fuji has cute primes but Canon has much more overall like 70-200/2.8, superteles etc. FF bodies not much heavier, 28 & 50 cover FF
@GDan I still don't see the point of complaining about Canon high resolution cameras when 60mp Sony isn't much more, already 6 years old
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gdanmitchell wrote:
Again, I think that one big challenge for Canon if they decide to "take on Fujifilm" in the su-called "retro camera" space is that Fujifilm produces a full line-up of lenses that also embrace the retro concept, having aperture rings. I can't see Canon doing that, so I suspect that this will either be a fixed lens rangefinder-style body or something with a couple of retro-ish lenses only.
Canon will provide an RF-FD adapter and leave it to the user to source suitable FD mount lenses for a more authentic manual focus, manual aperture user experience. /s
Given where this camera would presumably be aimed in the market, most users will care mostly about aesthetics, about the look of the camera. Canon can add a small wheel at the front by the shutter release to allow aperture control without having to re-do a bunch of lenses. This will be fine for the non-purists looking for a hit of retro nostalgia.
gdanmitchell wrote:
The R5ii is obviously a very capable camera, but for some of us it is disappointing to see it limited to 45MP... when the 5DsR had 50MP and Sony goes to 60MP.
The lack of such a camera will likely lead me to move to Sony during the next year or so.
60 vs. 50 vs. 45... sure there are differences but in terms of just resolution, it seems everyone has been stagnated at this point for a while. Sony's 60MP FF sensor shares the same pixel density as their 100MP MF sensor and I guess 24MP APS-C, so I can see why there hasn't been much movement in respect to pixel pitch. But both they and Canon have higher pixel density APS-C sensors. So what's the delay in applying that to FF sensors?
I think the advantage you'd gain from moving to Sony from the 5DsR would be very clean low ISO images with much broader DR to work with in post while the resolution bump would only be a minor secondary benefit. And you could still use all your EF lenses in the meantime. Kind of surprised you haven't added just a Sony body already to test the waters.
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boldcolors wrote:
Here's an idea - reverse engineer the Canon 5D "Classic" sensor color response and profiles. That would be awesome.
Definitely. Colors were the main reason I sold my Canon mirrorless gear. Could never get the colors right in post (or Sooc). Big difference compared to the old Canon DSLRs. I think color is one of the big reasons why Fuji has been so successful as well. People don't want to get a Master's Degree in post-processing just to have their pictures look natural.
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AmbientMike wrote:
I am glad people are interested in a classic camera, vs a phone.
The R50 + rf 28 (rf 50/1.8 not much heavier) might not be as retro, it is lighter than the X100VI, probably far more capable and not $1799 out of stock, if you're just interested in taking photos. Sigma primes available in addition to massively more lenses, Fuji has cute primes but Canon has much more overall like 70-200/2.8, superteles etc. FF bodies not much heavier, 28 & 50 cover FF
@GDan I still don't see the point of complaining about Canon high resolution cameras when 60mp Sony isn't much more, already 6 years old ...Show more →
I guess it feels more like the people driving up the prices or X100's or even older XE cameras aren't really into photography as much as using them to look cool on social media. Also, the X100 will likely get into places an R50 will not.
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Mike_5D wrote:
I guess it feels more like the people driving up the prices or X100's or even older XE cameras aren't really into photography as much as using them to look cool on social media. Also, the X100 will likely get into places an R50 will not.
A prominent Youtuber recently described Leica thus...
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rscheffler wrote:
I think the advantage you'd gain from moving to Sony from the 5DsR would be very clean low ISO images with much broader DR to work with in post while the resolution bump would only be a minor secondary benefit. And you could still use all your EF lenses in the meantime. Kind of surprised you haven't added just a Sony body already to test the waters.
My situation is that I know I’ll eventually replace the 5DsR, and at that point — since I prefer to not work with adapted lenses for the most part — with the switch from EF to RF lenses, there’s no longer the advantage of sticking with Canon back when a move from one camera to another allowed me to boring all of my existing lenses along for the ride with no need for adapters. What that means is now all options are on more or less equal footing and I can can start with a clean slate.
I have several reasons for leaning to Sony. One is that Canon has shown little inclination to address the needs of those who prefer the highest MP camera. Another is that quite a few of my photography friends and colleagues have switched and are ery happy with Sony. (If Canon did produce a higher resolution camera that addressed my needs, I’ve happily stay with Canon.)
I thought of picking up hte A7rV when it was on sale recently, but often that sort of sale means we’re getting closer to the announcement of a next generation camera. If I was in immediate need of a camera it would have made sense to jump on it, but since I’m not I decided to hold off for now and see what develops.
Dec 10, 2025 at 07:08 PM
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Mike_5D wrote:
I guess it feels more like the people driving up the prices or X100's or even older XE cameras aren't really into photography as much as using them to look cool on social media. Also, the X100 will likely get into places an R50 will not.
Everyone wants the cool factor, though. It's hard to make an $1800 fixed 35mm equivalent make sense, without it.
You can get a very versatile system, multiple lenses, older body, <21mm to 200mm, plus macro, for less. Not sure if the R50 would have any trouble getting in, really vs X100VI
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chez wrote:
Wouldn’t be great to get a custom made camera just for your specific needs. I don’t ever shoot shutter mode…get rid of that annoying feature. When shooting landscapes, I always manual focus…get rid of anything AF. I never use the P mode…off with it’s head.
Features like that can be turned on and off. Maybe they could even have them disappear from the menus.
What does require a semi-custom build is the height and width, especially of the grip.
They should make S/M/L at least.
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AmbientMike wrote:
Everyone wants the cool factor, though. It's hard to make an $1800 fixed 35mm equivalent make sense, without it.
You can get a very versatile system, multiple lenses, older body, <21mm to 200mm, plus macro, for less. Not sure if the R50 would have any trouble getting in, really vs X100VI
Too many places that don't know anything about cameras consider anything with a detachable lens to be a forbidden professional camera. I have no idea what harm an R50 with an 18-45 is going to cause anyone, but unfortunately, it's a thing.
Dec 10, 2025 at 08:42 PM
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p.3 #18 · The Coming Canon ‘Retro’ Camera to Use Latest 32.5MP Sensor
Mike_5D wrote:
Too many places that don't know anything about cameras consider anything with a detachable lens to be a forbidden professional camera. I have no idea what harm an R50 with an 18-45 is going to cause anyone, but unfortunately, it's a thing.
Idk much about it, really, but if they're going by size I'd guess they're pretty close. One guy got a Canon aps on a TV set, and posted to the seasonal thread, might be possible.
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jaygould wrote:
Definitely. Colors were the main reason I sold my Canon mirrorless gear. Could never get the colors right in post (or Sooc). Big difference compared to the old Canon DSLRs. I think color is one of the big reasons why Fuji has been so successful as well. People don't want to get a Master's Degree in post-processing just to have their pictures look natural.
True. Part of the problem is also Adobe of course. They have changed their color matrices and huesat tables over the years as well and for some reason that does not respond well with Canons mirorless sensors. But to be fair I noticed the change already with the 5D Mark IV which had a different look vs the Mark III using Adobe/ACR profiles (including the camera matching profiles)
So getting Canon colors back to "pleasing" is both Canon and Adobe. And they can do it of course. The R50 for example has ( in my opinion) a much nicer palette. Granted it is aimed at entry level photographers who want a "print ready" file but still...most of us wouln't mind an easier approach in post I guess.
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Already from your post you allude to a solution to the 'return to the look of the 5D Classic' which is to increase color and saturation. It might be possible to create a custom Picture Style to load onto the camera, or just make a custom edit profile to apply in your preferred editing software.
Granted, there are other factors, such as the sensor's color filter array which can affect color response...
From the 5DIV, 1DXII, etc., DR started to increase noticeably over previous sensors, which inherently resulted in a lower contrast, lower saturation SOOC look to the files. And as DR has increased, this departure from the 'early digital' look only continues.
This discussion is not unique to the 5D, as similar was said after the 1DII moved to a higher DR CMOS sensor from the original 1D's CCD sensor. It's also not unique to Canon as this was also a big deal for some when Leica transitioned from CCD and narrow DR in the M9 to CMOS and wider DR in the M240.
