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p.1 #1 · Super Elmer or voigt 3.5


Apples and oranges here but does anyone have experience with both of these lenses on M series film cameras? Looking at both options. I know the prices are pretty far apart but wanted to get input. I’m new here. Thanks.


Dec 06, 2025 at 07:53 PM
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p.1 #2 · Super Elmer or voigt 3.5


The 21mm Super-Elmar is one of my favorite lenses. It really is spectacular if you like 21mm..and I do.. and have a 21mm optical viewfinder, or Visoflex if using on an ‘M’. Equally Spectacular, but a bit slower is the Zeiss 21mm Biogon-C f/4.5 ZM. Both just wonderful lenses.. the Leica a bit prettier to look at.


Dec 06, 2025 at 08:46 PM
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p.1 #3 · Super Elmer or voigt 3.5


Yea I was leaning more towards this Leica. I was considering the 2.8 21mm but heard that the super Elmer has “sharper optics” and just a better lens even with it being slightly slower

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The 21mm Super-Elmar is one of my favorite lenses. It really is spectacular if you like 21mm..and I do.. and have a 21mm optical viewfinder, or Visoflex if using on an ‘M’. Equally Spectacular, but a bit slower is the Zeiss 21mm Biogon-C f/4.5 ZM. Both just wonderful lenses.. the Leica a bit prettier to look at.




Dec 06, 2025 at 08:57 PM
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p.1 #4 · Super Elmer or voigt 3.5


can't say enough great things about the 21SEM, tack sharp, lovely field of view, and on sunny days stopped down to f11 it becomes a point and shoot that's sharp without focusing. I can't say anything about the Voigt because I don't shoot with them.




















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p.1 #5 · Super Elmer or voigt 3.5


Nice. Yea that’s what I hear. Are you shooting on a film or digital Leica?


Dec 06, 2025 at 10:45 PM
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p.1 #6 · Super Elmer or voigt 3.5




JCKnapp74 wrote:
Apples and oranges here but does anyone have experience with both of these lenses on M series film cameras? Looking at both options. I know the prices are pretty far apart but wanted to get input. I’m new here. Thanks.


I had the Voigtlander. I wasn't really complerely happy with the images or the handling. So, I rarely used it. I thought it was the focal length.

One day I tried the Leica 21mm SEM and it was amazing. So, got rid of the Voigtlander and bought the SEM brand new. It is one of my favorite lenses and I rarely go out shooting without it at least in my bag. It is uniquely superb in all respects.



Dec 06, 2025 at 11:44 PM
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p.1 #7 · Super Elmer or voigt 3.5


I'd throw the Solinon 18mm f5.6 into the mix as well. Different focal length of course, but I'm mentioning it because I was intending to get the Voigtländer 21mm and ultimately decided in favor of the Solinon. It's a great lens in terms of price, size & performance.

For me 18mm was interesting as I consider it the widest usable focal length for architecture with its clean 90° horizontal FOV. Wider than that things become too unnatural looking for my taste.

I'd also say it pairs better with a 28mm lens (though I'm using 35mm on the Leica, so that wasn't really an advantage).

Using it on a digital Leica though. Max aperture of f/5.6 could be tough on film in some situations.. but I guess in those you'd want a tripod anyway - f3.5-f3.8 doesn't strike me as particularly usable indoors / in low light at ISO 400 either



Dec 07, 2025 at 06:28 AM
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p.1 #8 · Super Elmer or voigt 3.5


here's a great video on shooting 21mm. It's what prompted me to get my 21 SEM a few years ago, and as I said, I love that lens.




Dec 07, 2025 at 01:03 PM







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