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Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


I wanted to share my experiences with weather resistance of the Nikon Z8 and Z9, as well as a couple of the lenses I use regularly, in hope that this benefits someone else in future situations. Apologies in advance for the long post.

I am an avid birder, and photograph birds as much for ID as for quality pics. My walk around setup for birding is a Z8 with 600TC and a Z9 with 100-400Z on a Black Rapid double sling setup, using QD sockets on the lens arca plates to connect everything.

I have been on numerous hikes with this setup in rainforest areas, with moderate to heavy, though usually intermittent rain, with no issues with the equipment getting wet. I have not used rain covers of any kind on the equipment mentioned, and have had no issues previously, even with the cameras and lenses getting doused pretty good with periods of heavy rain.

I finally hit the limit on a recent trip to Hawaii, however. I had one hike in the early part of the trip in a rainforest area, with no issues. Got wet, but not soaked through at any point, equipment was all working fine afterward. On a second hike later in the trip though, we got drenched with an hour of solid rain (storm came unexpectedly early). Clothing, shoes and everything were soaked through. On this second hike, I had the Z9 on the 600, and this was used for 98 percent of the pics taken. I took maybe 10 pics with the Z8, all before the rain storm. Z8 did not survive this storm however ☹.

The main mistake I made (aside from being out in a heavy storm unprotected) was not removing the battery and cards promptly from both cameras. When we got back to the vehicle, it was still heavily raining, so the concern was to get out of the weather and back to dry clothing. Further, when we got back to our hotel, I still did not remove the battery, but did wipe everything down with towels. I was not until I noticed the camera was warm and the top LCD was fogged and not working that I removed the battery, but that turned out to be too late.

Z9 and both lenses survived unscathed, with no issues.

As soon as I was able to (30 hours later), I put the Z8 body in a container with a large amount of fresh dessicant for a week, checking it periodically, but had no luck in bringing it back to life. It was completely dead, no effect from putting in a known good battery (LCD blamk, no startup noises).

This story does have a somewhat happy ending though. I sent the camera in to Nikon USA for repair, noting that the camera ‘would not power on’. I had it back fully repaired in under 3 weeks (including shipping times). In addition to the repair of the battery issue, they also performed the recall repairs for the lens mount and strap lugs for free. Total cost of the battery repair was around $420. They noted replacing the ‘top cover’ on the repair paperwork.

I am not decided yet on how I will work in the rain in the future with the Z8. I've had many trouble free days in the past with no issues. I am unsure if prompt removal of the Z8 battery would have helped or not, but I will definitely pay more attention to this in the future. I am also impressed with how well the Z9 and the lenses have held up in these tough conditions.

Hope this sharing of my experience helps in some way.



Nov 18, 2025 at 03:57 PM
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p.1 #2 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


Not too bad of a cost to repair. Z9 is a tank.


Nov 18, 2025 at 04:39 PM
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p.1 #3 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


The D# models for Nikon have always been bulletproof. I'm glad the first Z# model appears to continue that tradition.


—Peter.



Nov 18, 2025 at 04:59 PM
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p.1 #4 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


I'm not surprised by your findings. I also have both cameras and a similar pairing... though I use a 400mm f2.8TC instead of the 600 f4TC. I live on California's north central coast and am often in the rain, exposed to sand, mist, and salt spray. I always feel confident about my Z9 but am a bit more cautious with the Z8. I prefer the Z9 to the Z8 and am constantly thinking about replacing the Z8 with a second Z9... something about the build of the Z9 exudes "confidence."

bruce

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Nov 18, 2025 at 05:21 PM
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p.1 #5 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


No surprise there to anyone that has held both, but unfortunate to see it borne out.


Nov 18, 2025 at 05:22 PM
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p.1 #6 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


Thank you for telling us about your experience.


Nov 18, 2025 at 05:32 PM
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p.1 #7 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


I had a similar experience with a Z8 but mine came back to like. Changed it for a Z9 as all my work is outside in all weathers.


Nov 19, 2025 at 07:08 AM
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p.1 #8 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


That's pretty unlucky I think.

I had my z7II fall with me in a river and be fully immersed for at least 5 seconds. I could only put it in rice in a dry bag several hours later but the camera was operational the next morning with only the replay button sub-board dead. Nikon fixed it for a very reasonable amount.

Cheers,
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Nov 19, 2025 at 07:32 AM
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p.1 #9 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


No matter what the camera of lens, I would not use it unprotected in heavy rain. Just because it can survive it once or twice does not mean it can take it indefinitely.


Nov 19, 2025 at 07:32 AM
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p.1 #10 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


Allowing your camera gear to get wet is just asking for trouble. It's water resistant not waterproof.


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p.1 #11 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


I originally thought these setups were bulletproof until I had a 70-200 fail after photographing an alpine event in wet sticky snow. This was back in the D3 days. I now carry at least a basic protection if I will be outside with the potential for weather. Even a cheap $10 clear plastic lens/camera sleeve takes up no room in a backpack or pocket. I feel weather sealing is to “help” protect the gear as opposed to being the weather protection. I also learned that the hard way before forming my opinion.
To the OP. I’m not criticizing your choices. I’m just stating my opinion based on my own experience.



Nov 19, 2025 at 10:16 AM
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p.1 #12 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


aisnikkor wrote:
My walk around setup for birding is a Z8 with 600TC and a Z9 with 100-400Z on a Black Rapid double sling setup


my shoulders and back got sore just reading that.



Nov 19, 2025 at 11:09 AM
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p.1 #13 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, indeed!

Spectro wrote:
I originally thought these setups were bulletproof until I had a 70-200 fail after photographing an alpine event in wet sticky snow. This was back in the D3 days. I now carry at least a basic protection if I will be outside with the potential for weather. Even a cheap $10 clear plastic lens/camera sleeve takes up no room in a backpack or pocket. I feel weather sealing is to “help” protect the gear as opposed to being the weather protection. I also learned that the hard way before forming my opinion.
To the OP. I’m not criticizing your choices.
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Nov 19, 2025 at 11:48 AM
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p.1 #14 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


The battery compartment is the weak link in weatherproofing of all non flagship Nikon bodies. I learned that the hard way many years ago when I was taking low to the ground pics with a D800 above a steam. As I was trying to get very close to the water surface I accidentally dipped the bottom of the camera in the stream for a second or two. The monitor immediately went dead and Nikon quoted me $400 to repair.

Bottom line - in heavy rain and splash it is a good idea to think about protecting the door of the battery compartment.

A business idea for someone with access to the right suppliers - a molded rubber cover that can be slipped on the battery compartment to slow down water ingress. I am also surprised that Nikon has not changed the design of this flimsy door all these years. It should not be difficult to put a better gasket on the inside.

In the mean time I will probably buy one of these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B6PWY2X7/
cut a few patches to size and keep in the pack for use as a disposable external door seal in wet weather. h/t to The Terminator (aka ChatGPT) for the idea

aisnikkor wrote:
I wanted to share my experiences with weather resistance of the Nikon Z8 and Z9, as well as a couple of the lenses I use regularly, in hope that this benefits someone else in future situations. Apologies in advance for the long post.

I am an avid birder, and photograph birds as much for ID as for quality pics. My walk around setup for birding is a Z8 with 600TC and a Z9 with 100-400Z on a Black Rapid double sling setup, using QD sockets on the lens arca plates to connect everything.

I have been on numerous hikes with this setup
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Nov 19, 2025 at 12:19 PM
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p.1 #15 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


Agree on the battery compartment door being the weak link on most all but the pro bodies that take the slide in battery. I will often put a piece of gaffer tape on the bottom if I know I will be out in rain or wet snow most of the day.

After about 40 years in using Nikon, I know to take weather sealing with a grain of salt and since I love to work in weather of all kinds, I have several Think Tank rain covers that are often in tow and worth their weight in gold. No one pays for the shot that got away because you trusted weather sealing that fell short.



Nov 19, 2025 at 01:46 PM
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p.1 #16 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


pancrasemma wrote:
Allowing your camera gear to get wet is just asking for trouble. It's water resistant not waterproof.


As Roger Cicala used to say, if companies thought their weather sealing was reliable, water damage would be covered under warranty.



Nov 19, 2025 at 02:02 PM
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p.1 #17 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


Thanks for all of the responses, interesting discussion.

A question that I have worried about in the past - does putting a rain cover on a wet setup actually do more harm than good? The worry is both trapping the water vapor inside, as well as having the plastic or fabric rubbing the water into the lens or camera body seal areas. Starting with a dry cover on a dry setup should be no issue, obviously.

One of my challenges is that with the carrying system I use, the cameras are generally inverted while in carry mode, and upright for shooting, This would require something along the lines of a sealed bag setup of some sort?



Nov 19, 2025 at 02:21 PM
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p.1 #18 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


Years ago, I was wading backwards in the river taking pics of my kids jumping off the boat with my brand new D6 and 70-200, and I tripped over a crab pot and fell in. I was under maybe 2-3 seconds before I could find my footing and stand back up, and boy I was distraught!

Shook off what water I could and went back to the boat and dried it off. I opened the battery door, card door and took the lens off and there was no water intrusion anywhere to my surprise. I went on to take another 450k shots with that camera before I sold it and bought another one, which I still have.

I've used my Z9 and 600 in pouring rain and heavy snow with no issues ever. Nikons top line stuff is built for war!



Nov 19, 2025 at 02:25 PM
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p.1 #19 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


dalegaspi wrote:
my shoulders and back got sore just reading that.


The black rapid setup is surprisingly comfortable in this use case (and highly recommended). I am not usually feeling the weight until I have been on my feet for 2+ hours. As a hand held setup, the 600TC is also surprisingly well balanced, and somewhat comfortable in use this way. Many of the older lenses I have tried or used were very front heavy, and only useable handheld for very short duration before fatigue set in. 800Z is another gem for handheld birding use.



Nov 19, 2025 at 02:36 PM
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p.1 #20 · Z8 vs Z9 Weather Resistance – A Cautionary Tale


ilkka_nissila wrote:
No matter what the camera of lens, I would not use it unprotected in heavy rain. Just because it can survive it once or twice does not mean it can take it indefinitely.


Appreciate the comment and point taken for sure. I don't plan my outings when I know solid rain is in the forecast, but I do enjoy the ability to be able to be in areas (like rainforest) where intermittent rain is almost always possible, without worrying about the equipment surviving a light rain. I just may have the Z8 put away in a pack more from this point forward :-).



Nov 19, 2025 at 02:41 PM
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