There are a few lenses for E-Mount that I've been thinking of getting to use on the Zf, and I wonder if there's a running list somewhere of lenses to avoid?
I heard the 20-70 isn't good.
I'm about to embark on testing with a few of my Sony lenses to help start the list, but for example I was thinking of buying some of the Sigma Contemporary lenses (24 f/2, 50 f/2) and wondering if someone has tried them with the ETZ.
I have not tried any of the Sigma I lenses, but I tried the 14mm f1.4 art and 20mm f1.4 art.
My recommendation is to get the ETZ21 Pro+. So far, I have not found any issues with the Pro+, including the Sigma 14mm and 20mm. The original ETZ21 Pro had issues with wider lenses due to adapter thickness, which was very noticeable on some lenses like the Voigtlander 21mm f1.4.
My gut is the 20-70 will probably play at least pretty well now on the Pro+ if you already have the lens, but I don't know if anyone has tried this combo yet.
I'm about to embark on testing with a few of my Sony lenses to help start the list, but for example I was thinking of buying some of the Sigma Contemporary lenses (24 f/2, 50 f/2) and wondering if someone has tried them with the ETZ.
I use the 20-70mm with the ETZ21 Pro+ and it works fine at all focal lengths and apertures. Shooting raw, I just have to manually select the correct lens profile in Lightroom. Shooting JPEG is handicapped by no in-camera corrections, so the significant distortion will be baked into the files.
I know Thypoch also makes a Z-mount version, but since I’d like to continue using both, my ZR and Sony cameras, instead of buying two of the same adapter, I wonder if it would make sense to get just the one E-mount version, then adapt that to Z-mount with my Megadap.
Figure since the Thypoch is a “dumb” adapter, for manual Leica M-mount lenses, I wouldn’t have to worry about any potential AF, etc problems. But maybe there’s some other potential issues I could be missing?
I know Thypoch also makes a Z-mount version, but since I’d like to continue using both, my ZR and Sony cameras, instead of buying two of the same adapter, I wonder if it would make sense to get just the one E-mount version, then adapt that to Z-mount with my Megadap.
Figure since the Thypoch is a “dumb” adapter, for manual Leica M-mount lenses, I wouldn’t have to worry about any potential AF, etc problems. But maybe there’s some other potential issues I could be missing?
I tried adapting a techart m to sony mount to Nikon with the megadap and ran into two issues. Autofocus would not work, not surprised, but the biggest issue was I could not get the teachart to release from the megadap. Thankfully, both had the BH warranty through Allstate and were covered 100%.
Seabassius wrote:
I tried adapting a techart m to sony mount to Nikon with the megadap and ran into two issues. Autofocus would not work, not surprised, but the biggest issue was I could not get the teachart to release from the megadap. Thankfully, both had the BH warranty through Allstate and were covered 100%.
Wow. OK, that's good to know. Something to be aware of.
I don't know if anyone else has had this experience, but I've noticed that on multiple occasions when shooting high volume with burst modes with the ETZ Pro+ occasionally there will be a little bit of a clunk and the IBIS stops working. Turn the camera off and on again and it resets and works fine. I experienced this on two different Z8s. It happened the most with a Sigma 135mm 1.4, but also happened with GM 50-150mm.
As for the original question, I don't love the ETZ with Sony's zoom lenses. On Sony, they can zoom and focus at the same time. They don't when adapted.
I had something similar happen two nights ago with the ETZ21 Pro+ and Sony 24-70 F/2.8 GM II on my ZR, while shooting video. But it was the opposite of the above. IBIS wasn't activating at all, then suddenly a clunk, and it worked again. After that it was all fine.
Can't comment on the Sony 16-35/2.8 GM II but I can say that my Laowa 15/2 doesn't lock with this adapter. All oher lenses worked fine.
There are some aperture reading oddities, though. My fully manual 50/1.1 is stored as an f/1.1 lens but I can't set a value lower than f/1.2.
Can someone say if the Sony 28-70/2 GM works with the Megadap?
Egg Salad wrote:
Can someone say if the Sony 28-70/2 GM works with the Megadap?
It does, but it doesn't AF while zooming and that lens is not parfocal. Thus if you like to ride that zoom ring you're gonna get out of focus shots if you don't wait for the camera to catch up. Same story with the 50-150 and 70-200 (I assume the other sony zooms, too, but I've not tried those).
Started using the 135 G Master on Z7II (got a super deal) and quite impressed with the adaptation using ETZII Pro. I am sure its not "Plena" equivalent in AF but the color on the G Masters is top notch. I looked at the Viltrox but the weight/bulk was too much. Having a Sony G Master in the kit adds to the overall character of my photography. The 135 was always well respected on Sony as having great AF and fortunately most of that is functional on the Nikon camera.
For me, it's the body, unless I switch for a Nikon-mount lens. Since I've learned the camera can get wrong EXIF data, I also rotate the adapter a bit to disconnect it when mounting another lens.
I leave the adapter on the lens full time. FWIW, I ran into a situation today with a Samyang 35 1.4 Mk II for Sony that I also have adapted with a second ETZ Pro II. I was shooting a formal portrait and wound up having to adjust Fine Tune to -3 on my Z7II to get proper eye focus (checked numerous times and it was confirmed to be off.) Later, after the session, I swapped the two Megadaps between 135 and 35 and learned that the fine tune is registered in the adapter (both adapters have the latest firmware). After clearing it out, I swapped it back and the focus was ok on both lenses at 0 fine tune. Now while I do not know what caused this irregularity I do recall back in my DSLR days that I would sometimes have to change fine tunes with certain lenses after they were dismounted and then remounted (mostly applied to Sigma Arts like the the 85 and 50 1.4's). I bring this up to say that I would suggest that it might be wise to dedicate an adapter to a particular lens. The mount differences will directly affect AF correction algorithms, but I do not have enough experience adapting Sony lenses to make any assertions here. This scenario I described involves 4 separate manufacturers so no surprise something might be slightly out of design tolerance. This circumstance was confirmation that fine tuning is a tool that sometimes may be needed.
Eggsalads comments is interesting though. These adapters get confused on lens identifications. One of the adapters says the lens is 135mm but is being shot at 35. I think changing lenses with the same adapter may lead to registration problems which is my take away.
The Megadaps appear to have a lot going on translating the manufacturers data and the lens/camera focus signals. Really impressive piece of gear to be quite honest. I love the fact that I can use these other solutions. Gives a lot more flexibility. Just have to know the limits.
On the 135, it really helps to use the limit switch for distance control. This ensures minimal hunting when moving in long rack conditions. I really like the 135. The weight on this lens is quite manageable and is not too front heavy. But there is no way I would be using a FTZII with a lens like this (it it was a Nikon F). One of the reasons I abandoned the 105 1.4. Too front heavy with the adapter.
One last point, I ran the Samyang 135 on the adapter and it was ok. Eye focus was amazing but it was slow to go full rack and would hunt here and there. The Sony is significantly better for AF (no surprise).
aerospace99 wrote:
I leave the adapter on the lens full time. FWIW, I ran into a situation today with a Samyang 35 1.4 Mk II for Sony that I also have adapted with a second ETZ Pro II. I was shooting a formal portrait and wound up having to adjust Fine Tune to -3 on my Z7II to get proper eye focus (checked numerous times and it was confirmed to be off.) Later, after the session, I swapped the two Megadaps between 135 and 35 and learned that the fine tune is registered in the adapter (both adapters have the latest firmware). After clearing it out, I swapped it back and the focus was ok on both lenses at 0 fine tune. Now while I do not know what caused this irregularity I do recall back in my DSLR days that I would sometimes have to change fine tunes with certain lenses after they were dismounted and then remounted (mostly applied to Sigma Arts like the the 85 and 50 1.4's). I bring this up to say that I would suggest that it might be wise to dedicate an adapter to a particular lens. The mount differences will directly affect AF correction algorithms, but I do not have enough experience adapting Sony lenses to make any assertions here. This scenario I described involves 4 separate manufacturers so no surprise something might be slightly out of design tolerance. This circumstance was confirmation that fine tuning is a tool that sometimes may be needed.
Eggsalads comments is interesting though. These adapters get confused on lens identifications. One of the adapters says the lens is 135mm but is being shot at 35. I think changing lenses with the same adapter may lead to registration problems which is my take away.
The Megadaps appear to have a lot going on translating the manufacturers data and the lens/camera focus signals. Really impressive piece of gear to be quite honest. I love the fact that I can use these other solutions. Gives a lot more flexibility. Just have to know the limits.
On the 135, it really helps to use the limit switch for distance control. This ensures minimal hunting when moving in long rack conditions. I really like the 135. The weight on this lens is quite manageable and is not too front heavy. But there is no way I would be using a FTZII with a lens like this (it it was a Nikon F). One of the reasons I abandoned the 105 1.4. Too front heavy with the adapter.
One last point, I ran the Samyang 135 on the adapter it was ok. Eyer focus was amazing but it was slow to go full rack and woult hunt here and there. The Sony is significantly better for AF (no surprise)....Show more →
I have bought and used all 3 135mm f1.8 from nikon and sony and canon. I thought the 135mm f1.8 is one of the few lens which nikon did better than sony, same weight, and better bokeh.
From what I have read, that would be absolutely true. I picked up the Sony for a steal. Nikon has some great glass but I do not use a 135 enough for that level of investment. The Sony when priced right is an acceptable alternative.
nhmorgan wrote:
I don't know if anyone else has had this experience, but I've noticed that on multiple occasions when shooting high volume with burst modes with the ETZ Pro+ occasionally there will be a little bit of a clunk and the IBIS stops working. Turn the camera off and on again and it resets and works fine. I experienced this on two different Z8s. It happened the most with a Sigma 135mm 1.4, but also happened with GM 50-150mm.
As for the original question, I don't love the ETZ with Sony's zoom lenses. On Sony, they can zoom and focus at the same time. They don't when adapted....Show more →
^^ Thanks for sharing this info. Did the "no AF while zooming" issue affect both the Sigma 135/1.4 and Sony 50-150/2 in the same way when adapted to a Nikon Z body?
jmreese wrote:
^^ Thanks for sharing this info. Did the "no AF while zooming" issue affect both the Sigma 135/1.4 and Sony 50-150/2 in the same way when adapted to a Nikon Z body?
Only 50-150 and 28-70. The 135 is unaffected because it doesn’t zoom
The little TTArtisan 40mm ƒ2 is completely non-functional on the Megadap ETZ21 Pro+; as if there is no electronic contact.
The lovely Viltrox 85mm EVO works, but focus acquisition is very slow. More worrying is that the Z8 takes 3-4 times longer than normal to start up when this lens is on the adapter. First couple times I thought my battery had died, as the camera showed no life when first switched on.
Both lenses work fine on my Sony bodies.
I wrote to Megadap about both issues, but (as seems to be their custom) there was no response. I ended up returning both lenses.
