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Steve Spencer wrote:
Your comparison to Fuji isn't really a fair comparison and is basically cherry picking a comparison to favor Sony. I think it makes sense to compare the X-T5 to the A7r V or compare the X-E5 to the A7Cr. It's not really fair to compare the bigger camera from Fuji with the smaller camera from Sony. Here are those fairer comparisons:

Fuji X-E5 445g; Fuji 16-55 f/2.8 II - 410g for a total of 855g
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Sony A7Cr 515g; Sony 24-50 f/2.8 G - 440g for a total of 960g

So close in weight, but the Fuji kit will be a big lighter.
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This XE-5 is a new thing, didn’t know it came out. Good thing you mentioned it.

I do think the XT-5 and CR felt similar in hand though… I still believe this comparison to be fair.

The XE-5 may be in a different class (“tiny grip” or “no grip”) together with the sigma FP

You need a 13-70 to match the Sony 20-70… I think on apsc you need 2 lenses to match this range (20-70 is capable of 105mm in apsc mode!)

Not much gains in the medium telephoto space btw
Fuji 50-140 is heavy, so is the 200/2

300GM is lighter and 70-200/4 G2 should be similar or lighter IIRC



Sep 28, 2025 at 02:28 PM
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aCuria wrote:
This XE-5 is a new thing, didn’t know it came out. Good thing you mentioned it.

I do think the XT-5 and CR felt similar in hand though… I still believe this comparison to be fair.

The XE-5 may be in a different class (“tiny grip” or “no grip”) together with the sigma FP

You need a 13-70 to match the Sony 20-70… I think on apsc you need 2 lenses to match this range (20-70 is capable of 105mm in apsc mode!)

Not much gains in the medium telephoto space btw
Fuji 50-140 is heavy, so is the 200/2

300GM is
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Yes, as I said there in no Fuji lens (or really any lens in any system) that matches the 20-70 f/4 G for that focal length range, but it has a 3.5X focal length zoom range and so does the Fuji 16-55, they just cover a different range. Sone will find a 24mm FF equivalent wide enough for such a lens others won't. If that is wide enough the Fuji lens would serve most people better. If it isn't then of course the Sony lens would be better.

You are also right that the Fuji 50-140 and the 200 f/2 are big and heavy (they could each use a revision that is lighter), but if you want to keep a light kit the standout is the 70-300 f/4-5.6. Sony has a pretty similar and almost as light 70-350 f/4.5-6.3 G for APS-C, but nothing in FF that comes close to the size and range of the Fuji lens. The new 500 f/5.6 is also a nice light long lens that pairs well with the X-H2S, IMO, for a very nice, quite light, and not too expensive wildlife (especially for smaller birds) setup.

And sorry to the OP for hijacking the thread. aCuria, if you want to discuss this more let's chat over PM or start another thread.



Sep 28, 2025 at 03:17 PM
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Yeah, I feel you.
I'm kinda under the impression that for everyday snaps, you can get away with a phone nowadays.
Sure, it's not the same "experience", but the end result (with some computational photography thrown in by the phone) can be surprisingly good.
I also kinda feel that for the "real" photos to stand out, you need to spend quite some either time on post-processing or money on exotic (e.g. fast portrait primes) lenses...


You can add "and spend quite some ...money on travel to exotic places" The "exotic lenses" are not that useful.



Sep 28, 2025 at 04:15 PM
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You can add "and spend quite some ...money on travel to exotic places" The "exotic lenses" are not that useful.


Ha, indeed - travelling to nice places increases the chances of taking nice pictures (even without top-notch or even any photo gear) .
However, I think it requires a lot more effort and resources to reorganize your life around travelling, as usually (not sure if that's still the case here) people need to spend some of their time on work... So, if the goal is to reignite that photography spark, it might not be a viable option, at least not in the short term.
I also find it more of a challenge (which is both good and bad I guess) to take memorable photos of everyday life and that's where those "exotic" lenses sometimes help...



Sep 28, 2025 at 04:51 PM
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Do what makes you happy.

If you are not enjoying the hobby you can always sell it all and try it again later. (
I have done this before to take a break).

It's a lot of money to tie up, just be sure your doing it for the right reasons (you enjoy it and the photos), if your not getting that compared to your phone then don't feel bad.

Hope you figure out your kit for what is best for you!



Sep 28, 2025 at 04:55 PM
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I think selling the gear you're not using could be good. When you want to use your A7RIV you will be less tempted to try and bring much more than you need and cut down on indecision over making the right choice. Yes, someday you might buy back a lens if your passion reignites and you miss it.

I have a Fuji x100VI and have owned the x100f and x100v in the past and the fantasy of what it can bring never seems to live up to the reality of using it. I would rather use my A7CII and a small compact prime like my Sony 40mm f/2.5 g or something similar. It fits in the same minimal size bag and is very light weight.

What does help me is my Ricoh GR IIIx. It's not for when I plan on going someplace to take pics, but it's in my pocket for times I don't plan on doing photography. It helps me look for images while waiting for my wife when we go out for lunch, or out walking the dogs. It fits in the front pants pocket waiting for something to catch my eye. Some people can use an iPhone for that, but I never do. When I only have my iPhone, I don't look for photos. It just doesn't put me in the proper frame of mind to actually see what's around me. The GR will never replace my larger cameras, but it helps train my eye. I've tried the small bag/small camera thing with the x100 series cameras but that gets left at home. Not from it being heavy as it's not, but it's just a hassle dealing with the bag everywhere I go. Putting a 9oz camera in my pocket is not at all the same so it actually is there for me. If you normally carry some sort of EDC bag that's a different story, then a small Fuji or A7CII/CR is a much better camera than the GR. On the other hand I feel strange pulling out one of those cameras in public places to take random pictures, but the GR doesn't trigger that feeling. It doesn't hurt that the GR works great one handed



Sep 29, 2025 at 12:28 AM
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Photography is not the only creative expression, and definitely a less personal and creative outlet than many of the other arts (being necessarily mediated by a mass produced tool, and what’s in front of you).
Drawing, painting, music, poetry, gardening, sculpture, dance, theater, crafts, homesteading… there are so many ways to express yourself and be creative. These objects are mass produced tools and if you aren’t using them, you can sell them, and if you need to buy them later for specific projects, you can do so. You are unique and your self expression may change over time since you are always learning, growing, changing, living.



Sep 29, 2025 at 12:56 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
Yes, as I said there in no Fuji lens (or really any lens in any system) that matches the 20-70 f/4 G for that focal length range, but it has a 3.5X focal length zoom range and so does the Fuji 16-55, they just cover a different range. Sone will find a 24mm FF equivalent wide enough for such a lens others won't. If that is wide enough the Fuji lens would serve most people better. If it isn't then of course the Sony lens would be better.

You are also right that the Fuji 50-140 and the 200
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The Sony 24-50/2.8 is closest to the Fuji 16-55.

The Sony gets you an entire stop more background blur, it’s probably worth carrying the couple extra grams

I have some friends who use the 70-350 on FF as their “lightweight kit” It covers the FF image circle until you get closer to 350mm.

Tamron also has a FF 70-300 that’s lightweight



Sep 29, 2025 at 10:00 AM
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The OP’s first sentence pretty much identifies what he is grappling with. I’m starting to lose interest in this hobby again. With a busy family and work life, shooting, editing, and posting take up too much time.

More or less gear isn’t likely to bring clarity. Not everyone has to love and spend precious time on this pursuit. Maybe take a break from photography and look at other ways to spend your leisure time that might provide more satisfaction and fit into the demands that you are balancing.


I agree with you here. I don’t think this is really a “gear” question at all. It is more of a question about how to think about a lessening of interest in photography, whether that is short- or long-term… and how to navigate that issue.

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gdanmitchell wrote:
Yours is a classic situation, and one I run into fairly frequently: A person who is enthusiastic about the idea of photography, passionate about acquiring lots of expensive gear, but not really doing a lot of photography for whatever reason.

I’m going to approach this from more than one perspective.

First…The kind of photography that appropriately relies on the kinds of gear you have is not for everyone. High end gear and many lenses (some that are arguably specialized) may not be what you really can or will do. You don’t mention what your specific photographic interest(s) is(are) aside from the worth
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Yeah, I just quoted myself. ;=) So that I can add one thing to my (already long!) earlier post…

I also went through a period of decreasing interest in photography a few decades ago. It happens, and it isn’t always a bad thing.

In my case, I was a very active backpacker at the time, and I used to go into the backcountry with a couple of 35mm cameras, several lenses, and boxes of film, sometimes going out for as long as a couple of weeks at a stretch. At that point in my life I was also involved in cross-country skiing and rock climbing. All of that started to make the photography feel more like an interruption of and distraction from the rest of my outdoor life.

Over a period of perhaps a decade I gradually backed off from the photography, eventually getting to the point where I was only carrying a small sort of high-end point and shoot camera, an old Olympus Stylus, in the backcountry.

Needless to say, my interest was rekindled staring in the mid-1990s with the advent of early digital photography technology, and by 2000 or so I was once again passionate about photography.

My point is that there can be natural cycles to the role that photography plays in your life. Like me, you might find yourself backing off for a while and then potentially getting back into photography later on. Or you might decide that, in the long run, that the sort of focused photography that requires regular practice and better gear doesn’t fit with the rest of your interests.

Time will tell.

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Sep 29, 2025 at 10:18 AM
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I go through this cycle pretty regularly. The cycles don't always come in the same shapes or sizes.

I will say this, I was the most engaged with my photography when I had the most simple kit: Sony A7CII with the 40 2.5 G. If I could, I would 10/10 times take this on family travel and everyday excursions and nothing else.

Of course my photography needs change with the times and I have gone through said cycles since owning that kit. This is to say, I don't have this camera or lens anymore, but that is the one I keep thinking about in terms of practicality. I didn't feel obligated to use it all the time and when I did use it, I felt very connected to it.

So, let whatever happen, happen. You do you, and when it comes time to acquire more stuff, just go ahead and do it.



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I've been through some of this, used to shoot a lot, aviation, landscape, cityscape, family, weddings all sorts.
I've also had some pretty inactive time when I was going through a horrid divorce.

But I would say a few things.
I've got some beautiful images of my daughter that I cherish that couldn't have been taken on a phone (my phones at the time were always crap).

My daughter is now almost 13 and loves coming to car shows with me and shoots my old a6000 with a bunch of sigma primes, she also comes out for an occasional scenic shoot but gives me the skunk eye if i suggest sunrise

Unless you're in need of the money, hang on to enough kit that you can enjoy it again when the time comes



Sep 29, 2025 at 02:52 PM
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I’m starting to lose interest in this hobby again. With a busy family and work life, shooting, editing, and posting take up too much time. Phone cameras have improved a lot, so I mostly just use my phone now. I’ve also collected more lenses and cameras than I need, as I tend to do, which feels like a waste given how little I actually shoot. I purchased an A1 last year, soon after the A1II was announced, but I only took around ten photos with it. Since then it has been sitting unused in my dry cabinet. My plan was
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Your plan sounds good! Just keep what you really use, then re-evaluate in a year. I would likely sell the Tamron 35-150 because it's so darned heavy & large, but it's a keeper when it's your most used lens.



Sep 29, 2025 at 03:06 PM
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I don't think I've ever lost an interest in photography as you have, but my willingness to lug around a few kilos of gear has certainly gone down. I want the gear not to feel like this 'thing I have to think about' when I travel. I tend to pack really light except for a small laptop and these bricks I tend to bring along for photos.

It would be nice if there was a minimalist camera set that was a bit less intrusive. Because of that, I have started to look into the Fujifilm X-E5, but I really don't want to be in a *third* camera system. That said, if money and angry wives were no object, I'd probably get the X-E5, a set of 3 lenses, and see what light/mobile travel would be like.

I will also say that I have skewed towards tactile camera trends over time. Meaning, I've enjoyed slowing down... using manual focus lenses, shooting full manual, clicky aperture dials, all that stuff, and found it incredibly fun.

This is a Sony forum... I have an A6500 and an A7R4. I *LOVE* the pictures that come out of them. They are spectacular, they are a joy to process. I love Sony lenses. The 35 1.4? Chef's kiss.

However, I have zero passion about the camera bodies themselves. I don't know what it is with Sony... I just never feel connected to the gear, and that's part of what dissuades me from being 100% in the Sony ecosystem.



Sep 29, 2025 at 03:56 PM
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While you could get more $ selling the a1, I can’t imagine going backwards, even though my a1 is far more camera than I need. I recently rented the a7Rv, and I still massively preferred the a1. Between the viewfinder and responsiveness, a1 all the way.

You know your lenses and subject matter. If the zooms get it done, perfect. I am a prime shooter, and I can’t imagine not having the 35 and 50 GMs, but that is a personal preference.

Why not give yourself a month or two only using the kit you plan to keep? If you want for nothing thereafter…done.

Jim



Sep 29, 2025 at 10:56 PM
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I can relate to not shooting when life around you takes much of your energy.
I bought a old rx1 as a camera that I could always carry with me and gives just that extra image quality over any phone. It helped me keeping the photography juices flowing.

In selling gear; just keep holding on to your Loxia line a little longer. I owned them for over 10 years now, sometimes years unused. But so glad I kept them. Real photography feeling to them, with great IQ.

My 2ct



Sep 30, 2025 at 02:42 AM
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aCuria wrote:
The Sony 24-50/2.8 is closest to the Fuji 16-55.

The Sony gets you an entire stop more background blur, it’s probably worth carrying the couple extra grams

I have some friends who use the 70-350 on FF as their “lightweight kit” It covers the FF image circle until you get closer to 350mm.

Tamron also has a FF 70-300 that’s lightweight


I find adapting to the way I shoot, to be important to my selection of gear, and when I get gear that adapts well to how I am shooting I want to shoot more. I hope the OP is able to do that and I think he is on the right track in his thoughts. For me and my landscape shooting I used to live near everything that I shot or I shot at places I visited regularly--like where I grew up and my parents lived. When I didn't travel far and knew the places well I could take bigger more capable gear. Now when I shoot landscapes it is almost always a day trip or even longer. I end up carrying the gear a long way and to adapt to that shooting I am taking a lighter kit and for me--at least for now--that means shooting APS-C. This is the landscape kit I am putting together:

Fuji X-T5 - 557g
Sigma 10-18 f/2.8 - 250g
Tamron 17-70 f/2.8 VC - 530g
Fuji 70-300 f/4-5.6 OIS - 580g
total weight: 1,917g with good image stabilization which will hopefully let me leave the tripod at home

I am pretty sure I can carry this kit with little burden all day which will let me enjoy and adapt to a new style of shooting and which I believe will let me enjoy shooting more and may even lead to me shooting more often.

Yeah a full frame kit would be better technically, and a 44 X 33 sensor kit would be even better technically, but even a Sony FF kit (and Sony is good at making their gear small) that has this sort of flexibility would weigh a lot more. The comparable Sony FF kit would be:

Sony A7r V - 730g
Sony 16-25 f/2.8 G - 409g
Sony 24-105 f/4 G - 663g
Sony 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 - 1,395g
total weight: 3,197g and that is almost 1.3 kg or three pounds heavier and for me makes the difference between a kit that is easy to take on a day trip and kit that is a chore. Yeah the Sony kit would produce technically better photos, but would I enjoy the process as much? Would I wear out and go home early and end up missing photo opportunities?

All this is to say that I think the OP might want to think about more than technical excellence if he wants to reignite his passion for photography. That might be an issue, but it does not seem to be the overriding issue in this case, but maybe I am not completely understanding his situation. I would still encourage him to develop a kit that he finds is well adapted to the type of shooting he wants to do.



Sep 30, 2025 at 08:44 AM
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Intimately following this thread and @ramesesthe2nd's ultimately decision, I wish you all the luck!

After 2 and a half decades w/ SLRs, dSLRs, and mirrorless, I'm going through this dilemma myself. I only have a basic setup compared to others, 1st gen A1 and two GM2 zooms (24-70, 70-200). I'm more than ecstatic with the results I get, but I'm tired of carrying it around for "fun." My breaking point was during our vacation in Japan this past summer; the first 4 days of the trip consisted of me carrying all 3 items in my ThinkTank messenger, followed by the A1+24-70 slung on my shoulder, then finally only my 16 Pro Max for family pics as I gave up wanting to carry the Alpha.

It got me thinking, I can flip all 3 and start fresh w/ a mint M11 + lens (or 2 at max)? I recently rented an M10-R and I enjoyed the experience, because it was such a very hands on workflow that made it engagingly fun. Not going to lie, the also M had a smaller footprint, which didn't scream TOURIST as loudly as the Sony, lol. Another plus, the M10-R/11 would output similar IQ to the Sony and would be multitudes better than anything I would capture from a phone. Downside, I lose the awesome Sony AF and would have to perfect zone focusing w/ my kids' activities.

I'd like to keep both an M and A1, but financially it wouldn't make sense (my pockets are shallow plus wife would be ABSOLUTELY livid). So, I don't know if I should just keep my current setup or dive full in to the OG rangefinder setup. For now, my poor Alpha just sits in the bag w desiccant packs...


nineblade wrote:
I don't think I've ever lost an interest in photography as you have, but my willingness to lug around a few kilos of gear has certainly gone down. I want the gear not to feel like this 'thing I have to think about' when I travel. I tend to pack really light except for a small laptop and these bricks I tend to bring along for photos.

It would be nice if there was a minimalist camera set that was a bit less intrusive. Because of that, I have started to look into the Fujifilm X-E5, but I really don't want
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ramesesthe2nd wrote:
I’m starting to lose interest in this hobby again. With a busy family and work life, shooting, editing, and posting take up too much time. Phone cameras have improved a lot, so I mostly just use my phone now. I’ve also collected more lenses and cameras than I need, as I tend to do, which feels like a waste given how little I actually shoot. I purchased an A1 last year, soon after the A1II was announced, but I only took around ten photos with it. Since then it has been sitting unused in my dry cabinet. My plan was
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Try a 28-60 or other lighter lens.

The 35-150 isnt heavy for its capabilities though.



Sep 30, 2025 at 11:51 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
I find adapting to the way I shoot, to be important to my selection of gear, and when I get gear that adapts well to how I am shooting I want to shoot more. I hope the OP is able to do that and I think he is on the right track in his thoughts. For me and my landscape shooting I used to live near everything that I shot or I shot at places I visited regularly--like where I grew up and my parents lived. When I didn't travel far and knew the places well I could take
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100-400GM does not belong in a landscape kit imo. Its rather heavy.

A7CR 515g
Sony 16-35/4G 353g
Tamron 50-300mm F/4.5-6.3 665g
Use APSC mode if you need longer than 300mm.
Total 1533g



Sep 30, 2025 at 11:57 AM
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aCuria wrote:
100-400GM does not belong in a landscape kit imo. Its rather heavy.

A7CR 515g
Sony 16-35/4G 353g
Tamron 50-300mm F/4.5-6.3 665g
Use APSC mode if you need longer than 300mm.
Total 1533g


Well that kit would never work for me. I hate power zooms for their ergonomics and a 6X zoom focal length range with an f/9.5 equivalent wide open aperture at the long end is putting that 6X zoom into pretty noticeable diffraction territory with an already lower MP count. And then you have zero coverage from 35mm to 50mm a very important range for me. No thanks.

Interestingly, when I posted about this plan on a landscape thread on the Fuji forum a different FM member who shoots Nikon suggested that Fuji 70-300 wasn't good enough and it would be a huge downgrade not to use the 100-400 for landscapes. My own view is that the Fuji 70-300 f/4-5.6 sits in a sweet spot with a 4.3X zoom focal length range (like a 24-105 FF lens), a small size and weight, but just having a wide enough aperture to stay out of the more serious problems with diffraction. I will see if that is my experience as I try the kit. What is clear is that there is no FF lens that has a similar effective focal length range and effective aperture (i.e., similar entrance pupil and depth of field) as the Fuji 70-300 f/4-5.6. On FF you either get a much bigger lens like the 100-400 that has a similar focal length range, or you get a lens that is just a little bigger with a bigger focal length range, a shorter effective focal length, and a smaller entrance pupil that let's in less light like the Tamron 50-300 f/4.5-6.3. Both lenses miss the sweet spot, IMO, and I don't think either of them would let me shoot landscapes the way I would like to.

By the way, here is what Fred had to say about the Fuji 70-300:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1869008/0&year=2024#16617040

It is actually a really good lens.



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