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p.2 #1 · Why I sold all my mirrorless gear and went back to DSLR's


Same old Scott.

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This is not an airport, no need to announce departures

"i wonder if anyone still uses DSLRs"

if only there was an 86 page thread that never leaves the front page of the Nikon forum...oh wait: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1705116/




Sep 26, 2025 at 02:40 PM
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I was arguably an early adopter of mirrorless since I bought a m4/3 in 2010, using it as a primary camera for awhile several years later, I'm still DSLR though.

I think a big part of that is the condescension and nonsensical "mirrorless is the future" and DSLR'S are dead!," you used to hear vs real debate of positives and negatives. Got sick if hearing about it. Mirrorless isnt really lighter my 85mm 1.4 rokinon is only about a pound, vs the new behemoths, for one.

5fps got on my nerves as too fast the other day, dont need fast frame
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For such usage DSLRs are indeed still great and yes, even a bit bettter.

As someone with aging eyes who shoot landscape one advantage I find with mirrorless is the ability to use the EVF to focus manual focus lenses accurately and to review images (Voigtlander APO-Lanthar, Zeiss Otus ML and Leica R APO are the baseline of my current Nikon landscape kit). Using life view of the screen forced me to use my reading glasses and it often isn’t practical in the wild. The ability to not have to change shutter type from going handheld to tripod also removes one step and one possible oversight (Z8).

Another aspect is that, not for landscape, but for dance photography silent shooting has become the standard so a stacked sensor is basically mandatory these days. DSLRs just cannot be used any longer.

Cheers,
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Sep 26, 2025 at 05:23 PM
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In my case when my gear is strapped in my backseat 24/7 mirrorless is not an ideal solution. And with the beating it takes at fire scenes I don’t want a $3000 body exposed to that.

As the price point of mirrorless drops I’ll probably pick up a cheap body to mess around with but it doesn’t need to be stacked. Especially if I ever got that 400mm f3.5 I’ve always wanted.

I really hope Nikon keeps developing leading edge mirrorless. Their new lenses look amazing.

bernardl wrote:
For such usage DSLRs are indeed still great and yes, even a bit bettter.

As someone with aging eyes who shoot landscape one advantage I find with mirrorless is the ability to use the EVF to focus manual focus lenses accurately and to review images (Voigtlander APO-Lanthar, Zeiss Otus ML and Leica R APO are the baseline of my current Nikon landscape kit). Using life view of the screen forced me to use my reading glasses and it often isn’t practical in the wild. The ability to not have to change shutter type from going handheld to tripod also removes one
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Sep 26, 2025 at 05:37 PM
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jwolfe wrote:
In my case when my gear is strapped in my backseat 24/7 mirrorless is not an ideal solution. And with the beating it takes at fire scenes I don’t want a $3000 body exposed to that.

As the price point of mirrorless drops I’ll probably pick up a cheap body to mess around with but it doesn’t need to be stacked. Especially if I ever got that 400mm f3.5 I’ve always wanted.

I really hope Nikon keeps developing leading edge mirrorless. Their new lenses look amazing.



That makes total sense yes.

I fully understand that for you at this point in time DSLRs are still the best option.

And btw I still think that Nikon may decide to release a D900 at some point when they have the right components for one, meaning after a higher res sensor becomes available in a « Z7III » body.

There are still many DSLR lovers who would be willing to buy one and btw not only among traditional Nikon users.

It wouldn’t be a very expensive project for them, just combine the following:
- D850 body, battery, memory cards slots, screen,
- D6 AF
- Expeed 8
- Z7III internals (main board, sensor,…)
- ZR electronic hotshot, 32 bits sound system

The only question may be IBIS or no IBIS.

Why would they do it?
- to please customer’s
- to support the prices of DSLR lenses which would make the move to mirrorless easier for some photographers
- to steal some photographers from Canon

Cheers,
Bernard



Sep 26, 2025 at 05:45 PM
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p.2 #5 · Why I sold all my mirrorless gear and went back to DSLR's


Bernard if you’re not writing fantasy fiction on the side you’re missing out. There has to be other outlets for your imagination than just this forum


Sep 27, 2025 at 05:57 AM
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I stepped back into the DSLR world on the side for a bit a couple years ago, picking up a D750. It was my first Nikon after shooting Canon DSLRs at the beginning of my photography and then shooting with basically all the mirrorless players, save for Nikon at that point.

I enjoyed it, and the files actually spurred me to pick up a Z5 and then eventually this led me to switching to Nikon entirely. In any case, while I enjoyed the D750 I still overall preferred the mirrorless experience. I wrote about it here:

https://admiringlight.com/blog/revisiting-the-dslr-is-mirrorless-really-better/

Since then I’ve sold my D750 and most of the F mount lenses, but I did pick up a Canon 7D and a 30D (my second DSLR) for some shooting when I feel like taking a DSLR out for a spin. They scratch a nostalgia itch from time to time but overall I prefer mirrorless for the reasons I note in that article.



Sep 27, 2025 at 08:41 AM
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Bernard if you’re not writing fantasy fiction on the side you’re missing out. There has to be other outlets for your imagination than just this forum


Ah ah ah… 😂

I know this isn’t a forecast many believe in. But then nobody in 1985 thought that 2025 would have the most amazing line up ever of LP turn tables nor in 2005 that some of the world’s leading fashion photographers would be back to shooting Portra 160 and even less that a brand would simulate the limited range of film canisters with a digital body (Fuji it is).

So we’ll see. Nikon was the top dog at the end of the DSLR era in terms of performance, there obviously is a market as this very thread confirms, it wouldn’t cost them much, they still have staff with the mechanical skills that aren’t doing much in the mirrorless world… and with the Z9II coming out soon they will have the clear mirrorless technological leadershi and probably the best performing mirrorless body by a good margin while having made a big splash in video with the ZR and the video version of the Z9II (the FX3 mkII killer).

So a D900 in late 2026 would not be perceived by investors as Nikon being unable to win in mirrorless and desperately trying to move back to DSLR in a Pentaxesque kind of move but instead as a company having understood that some photographers just prefer OVFs and deserve nonetheless to benefit from the latest technology with their line up of brilliant F mount lenses. This would also not really compromise the migration of their installed base to mirrorless because the majority of photographers that had the chance to switch would have switched by then.

Btw this isn’t a camera I would be interested in myself, I am a firm believer in the superiority of mirrorless, remember vividly my frustrations with DSLRs (even if I acknowledge that they are the better tool for some usage patterns as we discussed here), think that the Fuji is a stupid toy, don’t want to go back to fillm scanning and is very happy about my deliciously sounding very high end streaming digital audio system based on Roon. Heck, it can even cast life lyrics display on my TV., no turntable can do that… 😂😂😂

I am not of the nostalgic type. 😂

Cheers,
Bernard



Sep 27, 2025 at 02:41 PM
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I lived 10 minutes away from Canon service center. I went there with a complete collection of lenses and 3-4 cameras so they adjust them to focus to the same standard more times than I want to admit and it never lasted. I switched to Panasonic gh2 when it came out and it was a death of DSLRs for me. Incidentally, a long time before gh2 I made a wishlist for digital cameras and mirrorless made that wishlist come true. The most important item was ability to focus on a person automatically, so you can just frame person in camera and then shoot without looking via viewfinder. This way you can watch and talk to model without putting barriers between us. I actually almost never do this in real life, but I wanted it at some point


Sep 27, 2025 at 06:58 PM
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olegkin wrote:
I lived 10 minutes away from Canon service center. I went there with a complete collection of lenses and 3-4 cameras so they adjust them to focus to the same standard more times than I want to admit and it never lasted. I switched to Panasonic gh2 when it came out and it was a death of DSLRs for me. Incidentally, a long time before gh2 I made a wishlist for digital cameras and mirrorless made that wishlist come true. The most important item was ability to focus on a person automatically, so you can just frame person in camera
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The auto capture function on Nikon bodies makes this completely possible.

A bit annoying with studio strobes but a real option when shooting in natural light to have several angles of the subject with different focal lengths.

Cheers,
Bernard



Sep 27, 2025 at 07:18 PM
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bernardl wrote:
Btw this isn’t a camera I would be interested in myself, I am a firm believer in the superiority of mirrorless, remember vividly my frustrations with DSLRs (even if I acknowledge that they are the better tool for some usage patterns as we discussed here), think that the Fuji is a stupid toy, don’t want to go back to fillm scanning and is very happy about my deliciously sounding very high end streaming digital audio system based on Roon. Heck, it can even cast life lyrics display on my TV., no turntable can do that… 😂😂😂

I am not of the
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I have 3 turntables to go along with my D850-D500..........lol




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I have 3 turntables to go along with my D850-D500..........lol



There you go! 😂

The latest rumors are that the D900 may sell as a kit with the next gen Technics direct drive turntable! Following a kind suggestion from the Japanese Ministry of trade and Industry. The same person who decided that Sony, Nikon and Canon can’t release a camera competing with the Fuji X100x…

It will have less than 0.0000001% of platter speed variation, a new revolutionary titanium Kevlar arm weighting less than 5gr… and remove so perfectly any mechanical imperfection that it will sound… digital! 😂

The kit will called « Luddite pack » and, combined with the D900 it will enable the usage of the turn table to capture data to recreate a 3D VR version of your subjects while playing music. Sixteen Horse power will have create a limited edition special LP to ship with the kit.

The most worrying thing is that I wrote that being sober. 😂😂😂

Cheers,
Bernard



Oct 01, 2025 at 04:13 PM
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I'm glad your decision to go back to DSLR works for you but I for one will never do that. Indeed, I can't say I've had the same experience with modern mirrorless that you have. I find modern mirrorless systems (I have a Sony A1 and a Canon R5 for very specialized purposes) to be superior in every way to my old Nikon DSLRs (one of which I still have though I should probably get rid of it). Those top-end DSLRs were great for their time but their automation (which let's face it, you must rely upon) is simply not as good as modern mirrorless counterparts.

That said, I do enjoy older and more antiquated things, like cars with physical buttons and manual transmissions, or fountain pens I need to fill with ink, or old typewriters and mechanical watches. But to me, what makes those charming is the absence of automation. With DSLRs, you don't lose the automation - you just settle for automation that isn't as good as what modern mirrorless can do. To wit, my most recent effort to get a camera that felt less "cold" than my Sony and Canon cameras was a Leica M11 (which is still mirrorless) - a camera that eschews most forms of automation that are almost required in a DSLR (e.g., AF). The Leica has successfully gotten me to have more fun shooting, but that's only because it made the actual process of capturing the perfect image "harder," and thereby require more mindfulness and engagement. The Canon and Sony mirrorless cameras are so fast and accurate that photography felt less like crafting an image and more like reacting to the world around you, so to me the Leica is a great antidote. But if process (and the impact it has on your image making) isn't something you want to deal with in connection with your tools, I see little reason to go from mirrorless to DSLR.



Oct 01, 2025 at 04:51 PM
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bernardl wrote:
That makes total sense yes.

I fully understand that for you at this point in time DSLRs are still the best option.

And btw I still think that Nikon may decide to release a D900 at some point when they have the right components for one, meaning after a higher res sensor becomes available in a « Z7III » body.

There are still many DSLR lovers who would be willing to buy one and btw not only among traditional Nikon users.

It wouldn’t be a very expensive project for them, just combine the following:
- D850 body, battery, memory cards slots, screen,
- D6 AF
- Expeed 8
- Z7III
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Fuji isn't really doing the latest fastest tech route, sure they have 40mp aps but is how many aregoing X100VI over iq or af? And even their old stuff like X-T2 has gone up in price. Certainly their popular Instax cameras aren't considered latest tech and very popular

They are doing great so a D900 makes sense, and thats assuming any D900 has no technical advantages which it could. Although FM is more pro mirrorless than the general photography population so I wouldn't expect a lot of agreement on here.





Oct 02, 2025 at 12:43 PM
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I could, if necessary, “do work” with an EVF, but, I prefer EVF-less-ness. There is “something about” looking through optical glass that I simply prefer, and, importantly, my photography is not normally about doing “work.” (I did evidentiary/forensic/crime scene photography, during the final 7+ years of my police career, so, have used a camera for “work,” but, retirement released me from my oath of office, thankfully.)

There is something meditative about using optical glass. I loved fine binoculars long before I became serious about photography.

I am aware that some of the mirror-deprived Z cameras have AF that can function in lower light than my D5 and D850 cameras. If it ever becomes truly important enough for me to get those night images, that I am now missing, well, I will, then, buy a Z8 or Z9. “If.”

Even though I said “mirror-deprived” in the preceding paragraph, I am not a fan of the “flapping mirror,” in and of itself. I was simply poking fun at those who use the term “mirrorless.” I do not refer to my Toyota Tundra as a “horseless carriage.” (Folks did, once upon a time, use the term “horseless carriage.”)

I do use cameras without mirrors, when it suits me. I bought a pre-owned Canon EOS M3, about a decade ago, which I liked well enough, but, Hurricane Harvey ruined it. I bought a Nikon 1 V1, mostly to dabble with video, but, its Live View function became inoperative, which limits its continued usefulness. In 2018, after I retired from being a public servant, I acquired a pre-owned Leica lens, known for having considerable “character,” and a new Leica M10 camera, to act as a rear dust cover for that that lens. After 7+ years of using “perfect” optics to photograph sad, grim things, it seemed appropriate to use a “character’” lens to photograph creatively. No worries about quitting Nikon; I also bought my Zeiss Otus 85 ZF.2, at the same time. (I had been planning to add a 600mm f/4 FL E, for birds, but, a left shoulder injury was keeping me from hefting long, heavy lenses, indefinitely, at the time, so, I used “super telephoto” money for the 50mm Summilux, the M10, and the Zeiss Otus.)

I really do like continuing to use some of my AF lenses. If anyone wants to challenge me on that point, well, please remember that I added a whole new system, in 2018, in order to be able to use a specific film-era Leica lens, with “character.” And, remember, that I did use world-class-best lenses, for 7+ years, when I had a sworn duty to do my best, most “perfect” work*. When the day comes that a specific Z lens becomes THAT important, I will do what it takes to acquire and use it.

To stir the pot, just a bit, my “world-class-best” macro lens, mentioned above, was Canon EF. The Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro, with Image Stabilization, may not have had optical elements that were notably superior to other best-quality macro lenses, of the time, but the Image Stabilization was superior, the AF notably FAST and accurate, and the weather-sealing amazingly good. An action/sports lens, that could shoot macro. My “specialty” was photographing living, breathing assault victims, as soon as possible after the incident. I learned to shoot action at very close to macro range, because a tripod was often impossible to use.

To be fair to Nikon, the Micro-Nikkor AF-S 60mm f/2.8G can shoot fast action at close range, but, the working distance at or near 1:1 magnification is just TOO close. Plus, the Canon MR-EX II Macro Ring Lite, which REALLY makes finger pressure marks show, on human skin, had/has no Nikon counterpart, that can shoot I-TTL on a DSLR. (The Nikon SB-29 can be used on Nikon DSLRs, but only in manual mode.)

*I do not claim to be an expert. I do not claim to be anywhere nearly perfect. I did strive to do my best, and was willing to buy best gear, at the time.



Oct 03, 2025 at 08:07 AM
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jwolfe wrote:
I’m not knocking mirrorless at all. I think it’s awesome! One of my biggest problems is my eyes - the viewfinder just strained my eyes too much.



Being too close to a TV screen is a bit harsh on one’s eyes.

In essence, an EVF is exactly that; a television screen.



Oct 03, 2025 at 08:14 AM
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I get the allure of going back to a somewhat more "analog" experience, but for my bird photography, DSLRs are thankfully a thing of the past. I still end up binning a lot of shots, but it used to be that a majority of my misses with my Canon/Nikon DSLRs were from gear inefficiency, whereas now with ML most of my missed shots are subject-related. Mirrorless has removed more of the gear out of the shooting process, which enhances my ability to getting the shot:

1) Improved compositions: mirrorless systems with Eye/Subject detect allows me freedom to lock onto bird and compose the scene exactly how I want.

- With DSLR, I relied heavily on the center AF point, as the outers couldn't be trusted, so a majority of my compositions had the bird at dead center.
- Focus+recompose wasn't really viable, as small birds (warblers and such) move so quickly that there just isn't time to F&R.
- With shallow DOF, recomposing can potentially result in the bird's eye being slightly OOF.

2) Improved exposure: WYSIWYG means no more under/overexposed images in challenging environments. Can't count the number of times I'd get a great bird/pose/perch, only to find after the fact that I have to destructively recover shadows/highlights in post.

3) No more Micro-focus Adjusting lenses to cameras... nothing like always having a nagging suspicion that all your shots are going to be just slightly back/front focused because you messed up the LensAlign/FoCal/tape measure process. Screw that, what dismal experience.

4) No more mirror slap. This scares or alters a bird's behavior.


DSLRs definitely felt more fun and satisfying to shoot with: the optical viewfinder, the sound of the mirror, the tactile feel of the AF locking on, being able to have the camera focus on a subject if it's slightly OOF vs. completely giving up and grabbing onto the background.. You also don't have the "winning the lottery" joyous feeling when you get your photos uploaded, hoping against hope that everything came together and you find that you nailed that one GREAT shot... with ML, you instead get to choose from 10 perfect variations/captures of that great shot, and that's amazing, but in a contrary way it's just not as satisfying.

I wouldn't give up my ML kit now to revert to even the best, top of the line DSLR, no way, but I'd consider adding one in just to have a different shooting experience from time to time. I held the D500+500PF on a pedestal, the benchmark that I measured my initial ML gear against, and it'd be interesting to see if I still had the same feeling about it all these years later.





Oct 03, 2025 at 10:14 AM
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I get the allure of going back to a somewhat more "analog" experience, but for my bird photography, DSLRs are thankfully a thing of the past. I still end up binning a lot of shots, but it used to be that a majority of my misses with my Canon/Nikon DSLRs were from gear inefficiency, whereas now with ML most of my missed shots are subject-related. Mirrorless has removed more of the gear out of the shooting process, which enhances my ability to getting the shot:

1) Improved compositions: mirrorless systems with Eye/Subject detect allows me freedom to lock onto bird and
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And....

    No shutter shock (depending on the camera).
    The ability to zoom into 100% through the viewfinder for accurate focus.
    The ability adapt a wide range of lenses.
    Z-mount lenses.
    Manual focus subject detect.
    Better video implementation.
    In body image stabilization.
    The ability to shoot with picture controls applied in the viewfinder. Such as black and white.
    Pre-capture.
    Using DX crop uses the whole viewfinder.
    More accurate white balance.



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I could, if necessary, “do work” with an EVF, but, I prefer EVF-less-ness. There is “something about” looking through optical glass that I simply prefer, and, importantly, my photography is not normally about doing “work.” (I did evidentiary/forensic/crime scene photography, during the final 7+ years of my police career, so, have used a camera for “work,” but, retirement released me from my oath of office, thankfully.)

There is something meditative about using optical glass. I loved fine binoculars long before I became serious about photography.

I am aware that some of the mirror-deprived Z cameras have AF that can function in lower
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Interesting journey, thanks for sharing.

I can fully relate to the willingness to explore different experiences in contrast to a « utilitarian » application that demands certain equipment to achieve a specific result.

It’s probably a similar desire that drove me to owning two superb 8x10 cameras and developing a finely tuned scanning set up… with in parallel an Arca/Phaseone system. Highly inefficient ways to capture images with only marginally better technical qualities but interesting experiences.

But I guess I just don’t like the idea of « going back » somewhere. I far prefer exploring new areas that my limited abilities to perceive the width of opportunities in the world surrounding me prevented me from understanding and therefore trying until now. I don’t like the idea of going back probably because my memory is good enough to help me remember what caused me to « leave » in the first place. Isn’t life mostly about freeing oneself from those mental blocks that prevent us from dealing with the expanding realities of the world?

I guess it boils down to why we photograph doesn’t it? Is it the destination or the journey? Are we trying to maximize the time spent photographying or to minimize it amidst a busy agenda? Is it product or productivity?

What is a successful photograph? How do we perceive and measure ourselves as photographers?

Cheers,
Bernard


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Oct 03, 2025 at 05:01 PM
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It was for this reason that nikon introduced D780, a Dslr with Mirrorless features. As far as I know it was a failure. I certainly would have liked to get it, but Z mount lenses are just so much better that I didn't want to go back.


Oct 03, 2025 at 06:06 PM
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It sucks that Z-primes are NPCs

What are "NPCs"?



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