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tctmp wrote:
First, remember you were the one who started this, not me. I never responded to your first post even though I thought it's already nonsense. But when you saw my post, you somehow thought you had an opportunity to take cheap shots with your "I'm a world traveler, have you been out of the country? keep up with things if you are going to post" nonsense. Unfortunately that has clearly come back to haunt you. Of course, that's not the first time.
Now you are playing the words game of "blaming the friend". What a joke. For any frequent traveler who have entered US, they should have certainly noticed either on the form or electronically the question of "have you brought in merchandise with a value of more than $800". If you can't even get this $800 thing right (especially as a self proclaimed frequent traveler), why would people trust you on anything else. You have lost all your credibility. Again, of course that's not the first time.
So as a recap, I only said 3 things.
(1) There is a $800 duty free limit. You argued against it and you were wrong and I'm right.
(2) It's illegal to not declare something above $800. Everyone on this thread except you accepts that.
(3) The risk is not worthwhile. Of course as other people have shown that they clearly understand it's personal assessment, so no defense is ever needed. But the grumpy you somehow want to argue that it's wrong, so you are arguing "the risk is worthwhile". And with your strong rhetoric and insisting to people on this, that's certainly equivalent to advocating smuggling. And before smuggling, you also have to falsify to the US government. So you are certainly advocating fraud and smuggling. People with half a brain understands that with what you wrote.
Now I suggest you cut your loss and leave quietly on this discussion. At this point, any more rhetoric you put out is not going to help you.
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"Started it."? What? So, in your world, pointing out a flimsy argument is starting something? No wonder you felt like you needed to completely fabricate something in order to attack! And it has also been backed up by extremely angry personal attack words. To top off all the internet cliches, you preemptively declared yourself the winner and that you will not need to provide further discussion. All right in the cliche argument book. 1. Make something up. 2. Attack made up accusation as if it were fact. 3. Declare yourself victor. "Right, that's my conclusion of what you said"- When you have to make something up to attack, you kinda admit freely that you had nothing.
Yes, I am away from the country most of the year. And I reportedly exactly what I saw. One of the biggest airports of the country without any declarations stations even open. And despite traveling 90-120 days a year out of the country each year, for the last decade, I have never had anyone question or search anything. So, yes, frequent traveler. Since it never happens, this is the reality of the situation. It is $800 on paper. That was exactly my argument. If you want to give a counter-argument, you would have to actually start giving examples of how this is not the case. You have not.
It doesn't matter to me what people do. Declare it, don't declare it. However, what I took umbrage to was that there was a "risk." Security theater is not real. The reality of the situation on the ground is that there would literally be no way for it to be found. Even if there were declaration stations open, it would literally be possible for them to know that one camera among multiple pieces of equipment was bought on a trip. The whole idea of that is preposterous on its face. And as I said, it speaks to someone that has not done international travel. This too remains unrefuted.
Oh, and doing further research and amending a statement, along with an apology, is a strength. Not a weakness. It is perhaps viewed as a weakness though to one that is willing to use made up conclusions as if they were a fact, because they think that attacking someone wins an argument. That kind of person might indeed view correcting mistakes as a weakness.
So, can you give some examples of the risk? As I have done so much travel, and will be leaving again within a few weeks, I am actually interested. Are there commonly people searched for purchased goods? How do they know what is new vs old? This next trip, I am traveling with 6 watches(I know because they are on the bed across from me at the moment). Should I worry about being investigated for buying these abroad? Tell me about the risks.
I expect a dodge/avoidance. Because this is all straight from the cliche online argument rulebook.
The reality is that this is a moral choice, but not a risk. People speed every day. It is blatant in the US. Speeding is illegal. It is no more or less illegal than someone not declaring. The word was thrown around here like a secret police is going to send you to guantamo. People buy stuff from other states. Do you declare that for state taxes?
This is a moral question for each individual. But, yes, as my actual travel experience has at least shown me, it is not one enforced.
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Yes, states can audit, but they are targeted and not random house to house sweeps.