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Got the Rocknroller r12 stealth in, and it’ll have to do. The front wheels track and turn much better than the Onstage UTC5500. Also, though the specs say the R12 and UTC5500 are about the same weight, the RnR cart feels lighter. Still underwhelmed by the cable closing mechanism, but an improvement over my old R10, which had smaller front wheels that would often have a hard time going over door sills. Also, nice that the lavacart deck will fit without any modification.

Still think if RnR came out with a new cart with the onstage unlock mechanism, combined with their wheels they’d have a winner.



Sep 11, 2025 at 08:39 PM
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sungphoto wrote:
Got the Rocknroller r12 stealth in, and it’ll have to do. The front wheels track and turn much better than the Onstage UTC5500. Also, though the specs say the R12 and UTC5500 are about the same weight, the RnR cart feels lighter. Still underwhelmed by the cable closing mechanism, but an improvement over my old R10, which had smaller front wheels that would often have a hard time going over door sills. Also, nice that the lavacart deck will fit without any modification.

Still think if RnR came out with a new cart with the onstage unlock mechanism, combined with
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I thought I saw some photographer posting a RnR press release about a new cart. I have no idea what they changed though.



Sep 12, 2025 at 04:40 PM
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Did a little searching and came up with this: https://www.newsshooter.com/2025/07/16/rocknroller-unveils-next-generation-r9-and-r9xlhd-utility-carts/

Oh well, I am ok with the R12. The larger casters compared to the R10 that was stolen (I think it's discontinued) definitely make a different in terms of smoothness rolling over pavement, and going over door sills. I think I'm going to hold off on the Lavacart for now though, and might just DIY a platform.

It seems like the alternatives are all clones of the design onstage uses, and all have bad reviews for quality of welds and the caster wheels regardless of whether it’s the Proaim Vanguard, Gator, or Onstage version



Sep 13, 2025 at 11:04 PM
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One more thing I’d add is that the R12 is noticeably lighter than the UTC5500, even though the online specs show them as about the same (onstage says 34.6, RnR says between 33-36 depending on the site). I never put the UTC5500 on a scale when I had it, but I’d say it was closer to 40 lbs, whereas the R12 feels on the lighter end of 30. Makes a difference when you’re trying to figure out a way to find a spot for the cart in a packed car😂

Was able to use the new R12 stealth out on a couple jobs, and though those cable operated arms still bug me, the larger wheels are much nicer for crossing door sills. Im still on the fence about picking up a Lavacart vs a RnR top deck (again). I didn’t like it much when I had one, but it’s probably more useful when modified with John Gress’s suggested top mounting. I just never used mine because it was too fiddly to mount, and didn’t have quick releases.



Nov 09, 2025 at 11:18 AM
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Lava has a quick release setup for the wheels on the R12 Stealth, BTW, so if you need you can pull the wheels and pack down smaller: https://lava-cart.com/collections/accessories/products/r12-r18-wheel-quick-release-kit


Nov 09, 2025 at 03:04 PM
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I've seen them on sale lately. If things weren't so slow I'd probably grab one.


Nov 09, 2025 at 09:03 PM
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sungphoto wrote:
One more thing I’d add is that the R12 is noticeably lighter than the UTC5500, even though the online specs show them as about the same (onstage says 34.6, RnR says between 33-36 depending on the site). I never put the UTC5500 on a scale when I had it, but I’d say it was closer to 40 lbs, whereas the R12 feels on the lighter end of 30. Makes a difference when you’re trying to figure out a way to find a spot for the cart in a packed car😂

Was able to use the new R12 stealth out on a
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Did you end up getting the LavaCart shelves? I worked a couple of bigger productions lately and I've been going down the YouTube rabbit hole for DIY carts. There are some interesting ones made with scaffolding carts. They actually look a little more flexible for carrying gear.



Mar 04, 2026 at 04:59 PM
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Did you end up getting the LavaCart shelves? I worked a couple of bigger productions lately and I've been going down the YouTube rabbit hole for DIY carts. There are some interesting ones made with scaffolding carts. They actually look a little more flexible for carrying gear.


No not yet. I would have loved to have it for my last on location job recently, but it came together too short notice to order one in time for it. I'm waiting to see how the rest of the year shapes up before I pick one up. I am kind of tempted to just get another one of the RnR shelves and mod it like John Gress did just to cover me on smaller jobs in the meantime.. but I know I'll get annoyed with it having owned one before.



Mar 04, 2026 at 07:10 PM
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No not yet. I would have loved to have it for my last on location job recently, but it came together too short notice to order one in time for it. I'm waiting to see how the rest of the year shapes up before I pick one up. I am kind of tempted to just get another one of the RnR shelves and mod it like John Gress did just to cover me on smaller jobs in the meantime.. but I know I'll get annoyed with it having owned one before.


These are all kind of the same DIY carts using a Home Depot scaffolding cart.

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Mar 04, 2026 at 08:01 PM
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The scaffolding cart is only around $100 but you'll spend $200 for the Rock N Roller casters. I do like how it has enough levels that you could run c-stands across the bars. Obviously more work but it might actually be a more flexible solution.


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I was able to get an R12 stealth cart at a steep discount from a rental shop in LA clearing out new old stock, but that DIY scaffolding cart looks interesting. The caster wheels on the RnR carts are the best part of them in my opinion.

stuuke wrote:
The scaffolding cart is only around $100 but you'll spend $200 for the Rock N Roller casters. I do like how it has enough levels that you could run c-stands across the bars. Obviously more work but it might actually be a more flexible solution.




Mar 08, 2026 at 11:16 AM
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For any of you who use a folding wagon, like I have been using for the last several years,

Vevor is now selling a double deck folding wagon that folds both in length and width. Access to the lower deck is a hinged back tailgate like a pickup truck, so light stands, folding chairs, etc. will slide in horizontally and they can be longer than the wagon. These wagons are rated for 350 lbs, and the front two wheels have wheel brakes. About the only thing that doesn't impress me is the wide PVC wheels. They are great for crossing lawns, but don't leave the load in the wagon when not using it, or the wheels will likely go flat like the wheel photo posted previously. At less than $100 today (about what I paid for my present single deck folding wagon), I'm about to order one. I like that it folds both in width and length simultaneously to about 10" square by about 30" tall too, and it comes with a cover that slides over it when it's folded. My present wagon does not want to stand on it's wheels when it's folded, so this is another good feature of this Vevor wagon.

VEVOR is a pretty good hardware store type company to deal with. They are always having sales with significant price drops and I have placed several orders with them so far and have been very happy with their products, pricing, and shipping. A few months back I bought two 5 gallon fuel cans of the military Gerry Can design, and paid about the price of just one of them. These where the same cans that available elsewhere at about 2X what I paid. Delivery to Central NC was only 3 days too.

I'll add to this post when I receive this Vevor wagon.

Charley



Mar 14, 2026 at 09:33 AM
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For any of you who use a folding wagon, like I have been using for the last several years,

Vevor is now selling a double deck folding wagon that folds both in length and width. Access to the lower deck is a hinged back tailgate like a pickup truck, so light stands, folding chairs, etc. will slide in horizontally and they can be longer than the wagon. These wagons are rated for 350 lbs, and the front two wheels have wheel brakes. About the only thing that doesn't impress me is the wide PVC wheels. They are great for crossing
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Nice, thanks for the recommendation. I like the folding wagons for some things, but find them less ideal for when I need to load multiple cases/bags that are wider than the dimensions of the wagon walls. I wish I had more storage space for various types of carts, but the RnR is rated at 500 lbs so better for when I need to load in like a few heavy steel stands, sand bags, and a few cases of gear.

I wish someone would figure out how to combine the great wheels on the RnR carts with the easy to use unlock mechanism in the on-stage cart, with better welds, without making it weigh a ton. Plus good quality decks that don't feel like something I made in my shed last minute



Mar 16, 2026 at 06:19 PM
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My new Vevor wagon arrived yesterday, but it was near dark when I got home, and it was sitting on my porch waiting for me. I unboxed it and checked out it's features, but did so in the almost total dark on the porch last night. So it was received from New Jersey to South Central North Carolina in less than 2 days after I placed the order.

My impressions so far - It's very well made and bigger than expected. It folds to about 12" X 12" X 30" with an included slide over cover to protect it when in storage/transit. This cover has an opening in the top of it to allow access to the nylon strap handle in the center of the cart, It makes lifting and moving the folded wagon much easier than it would be otherwise. This wagon is Heavy, when compared to the single level wagons. I will try to weigh it today.

It folds by lifting from a center strap handle in the bottom of the upper compartment. All 4 corners of the wagon collapse toward the center when this handle is lifted, leaving the handle at the top end of the folded wagon bundle. Opening/unfolding the wagon requires removal of the dust cover and unwrapping a Velcro strap that is attached at it's center to the wagon so it can't be lost. Then pushing down on this top handle area you are spreading the 4 corners of the wagon out until it's frame below the handle drops just below center and that locks it open.

A 4 section folding bottom cover made from a very stiff material and covered with the same nylon fabric that the cart is made from unfolds easily and can be placed in the floor of the upper compartment to stiffen and make flat this floor area. There is cross bracing under the fabric floor to the center handle area, but it isn't a rigid flat floor without this folding floor insert added. A pocket in the dust cover holds this folding floor when the wagon is being stored/transported.

The lower area floor is the same nylon fabric, but the sides are a nylon mesh similar to the mesh used on the outside of the water bottle pockets of other wagons. This lower compartment is attached to the frame at the 4 corners via straps and buckles, so one side could be opened, or the entire lower fabric bag completely removed. The pull handle is 2 sections with a snap lock in the center of it when opened and there are two water bottle pockets with mesh sides attached to the front of the upper compartment, one to each side of the handle area. Collapsing the handle only requires pushing in this snap button as you telescope the handle into the short position. The handle is connected to the lower corners of the front of the wagon with a Wye brace, so you are pulling the wagon from the bottom corners, just above the wheels. This is a stronger way of attaching the handle than other folding wagons that I have seen and used, which only attach in the bottom center of the wagon frame. The handle is spring loaded to the up position whenever not being held down or pulled, a nice safety feature. I have tripped over the handle of my old wagon more than once, as it never wants to stand vertically on it's own.

The lower level compartment has a rear tailgate that hinges down flat, or snaps into spring latches when in the up position to hold it closed. This tailgate has a tubular steel frame, but is also covered with the nylon fabric. The wheels are wide PVC and the two at the rear remain straight, while the two at the front swivel 360 deg and have lever friction brakes. The brakes are only on the front two wheels. I like the idea of the wide wheels for travel over soft ground, but I worry about leaving the wagon loaded for extended periods of time, as the significant weight will likely create flat tires as the PVC gradually bends under the heavy load. With the wagon unloaded and folded, the tires should never develop flat spots, and all 4 are together when the wagon is folded, making this wagon stand on it's own when folded. My old wagon only folded front to back and would not stand on it's own wheels in the folded form.

If given the chance today I will take photos and measurements of this new Vevor wagon. If not today it may happen later this week. I have a pretty full schedule to maintain for the next few days.

Over all, and without yet trying to pull any gear in it, I'm quite happy that I bought it. It is heavier than I expected, but the all steel frame and rugged design makes this worth it, but I just hope I never have to pull it loaded up any long steep hills. You younguns' shouldn't have this problem but I'm 84, and nearly Bionic, as I have a pacemaker and considerable metal and plastic in me now. "Batteries Are Included" in me, but only to keep my heart beating at the correct speed, and when doing things strenuous, my heart doesn't run at a higher speed to help with the added exertion, a feature sadly lacking in todays pacemakers.

This Vevor wagon is on sale this week for considerably less than $100. New customers to Vevor get a bigger discount on their first order, so I can't say what you will actually pay. Their website works much like Amazon, so if you have done any Amazon shopping you shouldn't have any trouble using the Vevor website.

Charley



Mar 17, 2026 at 10:22 AM
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I didn't know anything about Vevor but was actually looking for a divider about 40" and came across a $50 telescope case. It has a divider inside that might work perfectly. I contacted customer support and they've spent two weeks trying to find out a way to get the divider piece to me without purchasing the entire case. I've been pretty impressed with their effort even if it doesn't work out. For $50 I may just buy it.


Mar 17, 2026 at 07:07 PM
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CharleyL wrote:
My new Vevor wagon arrived yesterday, but it was near dark when I got home, and it was sitting on my porch waiting for me. I unboxed it and checked out it's features, but did so in the almost total dark on the porch last night. So it was received from New Jersey to South Central North Carolina in less than 2 days after I placed the order.

My impressions so far - It's very well made and bigger than expected. It folds to about 12" X 12" X 30" with an included slide over cover to protect it when
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Thanks for the review, and would love to see some pics of it.

And that's incredible, kudos for you on keeping on going. My main health challenge that's taken me out for some jobs is an autoimmune condition, that basically triggers a severe inflammation response in my legs and feet that is so painful I can't walk for weeks at a time. Thankfully on some meds to keep it at bay, but sometimes it pops up out of nowhere and I have to cancel a job.

I hope to still be shooting at 84!



Mar 17, 2026 at 07:56 PM
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Here is a link to the wagon that I posted above -

https://www.vevor.com/garden-cart-c_10251/vevor-foldable-double-decker-wagon-400l-collapsible-wagon-cart-with-all-terrain-wheels-heavy-duty-folding-wagon-cart-225-lbs-weight-capacity-for-camping-shopping-garden-52-extra-long-extender-p_010963071047


I haven't had the chance to take photos of the one that I have yet, and I will be at my doctors this afternoon, so maybe I'll have the chance to take photos of it tomorrow. Maybe the link above will answer some questions in the mean time.


Charley



Mar 19, 2026 at 09:10 AM
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Well, I got home early, so had time to take the photos before Sunset today.








The Folding Wagon, Folded. There is a zipper in the dust cover to allow the handle to be pulled out and extended. It can be pulled around like this, but doesn't do well on uneven surfaces.







The zipper access to the handle







The folded handle pulled out through the zipper







The extended handle. It is spring loaded to stay vertical when not being used







The extended handle in vertical position







The fabric top handle is accessible through the dust cover to help with carrying







This is the folding harboard floor shown folded and in side pocket of the dust cover







Dust cover removed and ready for unfolding







About half way unfolded. You only need to press down on the handle all the way until the cart is fully unfolded







This is the unfolded cart with the hardboard floor about to be installed







With the floor installed







A side view of the lower compartment. It's attached via straps and buckles at each corner




Mar 19, 2026 at 04:10 PM
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A few more photos.

I hope this answers most of your questions.

For dimensions -

Cart height 34"

Top compartment 13 1/2" inside height, 35" inside length, 17 1/2" inside width

20 3/4" outside Width, 36 1/2" Outside Length

Tailgate opening 13" Height, 17" Width, Spring clips latch the tailgate up, it hinges to horizontal and stops about level

The cart frame is 100% steel tubing.

Wheel brakes on both front castor wheels which also swivel. The rear wheels have no brakes and do not swivel.

Cart weight - I haven't managed to weigh it yet, but guessing that it is 35 lbs or so empty. It's rated at 350 lbs capacity, but I think it can handle more.



I hope I haven't left anything out. If you have any questions or see that I missed something, please ask and I will do my best to answer.

Go to www.vevor.com to see their catalog and sales pricing. First time customers get a big discount. I have bought several items from them before ordering this cart and have been thrilled with their service and quality of products. This cart arrived at my home in South Central North Carolina from New Jersey in just two days and in great condition. I think it arrived by UPS, but didn't look at the shipping label. I wasn't expecting it for another day, based on the information provided when I placed the order.

Charley





The mesh sides are more visible here







This shows the front of the cart, handle, and the two water bottle pockets







The opposite (rear end) showing the tailgate access to the lower area







The tailgate half way open







And fully open. Although the floor of this lower area is just the nylon fabric over the frame, the folding floor of the upper compartment could be used hereframe, the folding floor from the above compartment will







My front yard with the cart in my driveway. The driveway circles the house.







The folded cart in the back of my Jeep Grand Cherokee.




Mar 19, 2026 at 04:28 PM
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