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p.1 #1 · Pursuing a career in wildlife photography


Hi all, I'm here to talk about career advise, if anyone is willing to chat, please feel free to respond.

I'm 17 years old, and I'm currently studying photography A-Level, and in a week or two I will be moving up into year 2 at college. I have been shooting wildlife for a few months now, and before hand I was photographing my mates doing mountain biking. Since I started I've gained an interest in birds, and a fair amount of knowledge. As I'm only 17, I've just been working on a portfolio website, and some socials accounts (Instagram, X etcetera), as I can't do any selling at the moment because of the taxing stuff, so I think until I'm 18, I'll put all of my effort into working on portfolio stuff, learn to sell prints, editing and actual photography. After college, I'm planning on studying Marine and Natural History photography at university, and hopefully work for a company doing wildlife photography, and selling my own work. Now please be honest, whether this is a good career plan for a decent income, or if there is more that I need to do to make a decent amount of money out of it, or if it is even enough. Also, if anyone could share some tips and secrets that nobody really talks about, that'd be much appreciated. Just wanted to say as well, for these future plans I've completely quit watching TV, unless if I am sat down with the family, quit using the phone for entertainment, I have really focused on my diet and eating well, and I do not drink or smoke at all, even when I am at friend gatherings where everyone else is drinking. I have taken these steps for the past few weeks, and since then I have noticed a significant impact on how long I can actually sit down and work for, which is always improving.

Many thanks, Ben



Aug 27, 2025 at 12:50 PM
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p.1 #2 · Pursuing a career in wildlife photography


I would not suggest that as a career for making a good, steady income. Years ago it was more feasible because of the lower number of photographers able to get 'sellable' images of wildlife. Today there are far more photographers with better gear and better post-processing skills flooding the market with their images, not to mention the enormous numbers of people using their iPhones.

These days, you would be surprised how many people will look at a great wildlife print but not buy it because they say, "I can get that with my camera or iPhone.".

It seems to me that video would be a more sensible path. Google "Lizzie Daly" if you want to see someone that is making a very lucrative living with her amazing wildlife videos.

Good luck,
Tony



Aug 27, 2025 at 01:24 PM
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p.1 #3 · Pursuing a career in wildlife photography


Look for Andy Rouse. He makes a living of it, but I'm not sure how. Also, Morten Hilmer. They seem to be nice guys, so just approach them online and ask.

I'm sure it can be done, but only with a lot of dedication, hard work and determination.

The days of shooting wildlife stock and making a killing are long over, sad to say.

Good luck.



Aug 27, 2025 at 02:04 PM
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p.1 #4 · Pursuing a career in wildlife photography


Photography alone? Nope. Workshops and excursions if you're both a wildlife expert AND expert level photographer? Sure.

Bonus points if you're good at video and can package all of that into sexy Youtube videos to become known in the space.

IMO it's far better to have a well built personal website than to spend endless hours chasing the algorithms of FB an IG. Whatever you do, do NOT pay to boost your social media posts, because you will essentially get shadowbanned and never have your unpaid posts seen by anyone.



Aug 27, 2025 at 02:10 PM
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p.1 #5 · Pursuing a career in wildlife photography


What is the difference between a wildlife photographer and a large cheese pizza?
The pizza can feed a family of 4.

Unless you have some type of special knowledge or access, it is a really hard field to make constant predictable money. And as equipment gets better, as post processing gets better, as AI gets better-- I am afraid it will get harder and harder. But with that said, there are always a few people that can do it.
If this is your love- go for it with your eyes open. Have a backup plan, but you will not know until you give it a try.
gary



Sep 09, 2025 at 06:49 PM
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p.1 #6 · Pursuing a career in wildlife photography


Everyone here has offered you good advice... I'll add a bit more without being snarky, sarcastic, or condescending.
I began my career in 1985 as a field ecologist working on pelagic seabirds in the arctic. I was in the middle of my degree in biology, was hired as a researcher, and carried a camera as a way to document my research and that of the PI (primary investigator). Some of the images I made during my research expeditions were published in journals and magazines, but the research was my primary source of income. Becoming a field biologist made me a better wildlife photographer.
When the grant money dried up, I went to graduate school to become a biology teacher. I spent 31 years teaching biology to 17 year olds, but maintained a strong interest in wildlife photography. For over 40 years (college through 2 graduate degrees in ecology), I was also a "semi-pro" (read as serious hobbyist) photographer. In the 1990's the photography was a good source of income but by 2005 when magazines began to fail, photography became "just" a passion.
And here is the thing... every person deserves to be passionate about something. So while photography ceased to be a viable career path, it was a source of self-fulfillment, and it is the one thing I still look forward to doing each and every year.
Like others, I suggest that you look for an adjacent career that will help you be a better photographer, but serve as a source of income. Work will afford you the opportunity to play, and play makes life worth living.
While precious few can make a career out of nature photography, most do this via many income streams that are derived from social media, teaching, workshops, assignments, and print sales. Most people lack the business acumen and discipline to make this work... with that said, some people do have the capacity to leverage their knowledge of business and love of photography into a career... these people do not live rich and often begin with money in the bank.
These days I'm a professional wildlife photographer. I write, I publish, I enter contests, I do shows, but I am a retired teacher with income from a lifetime of teaching. I call myself a pro because this is what I am doing in my retirement and it generates a small income... However, I could never live on the money I make from photography but am grateful for the career I had and the decades I spent as a hobbyist.

good luck,
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Sep 16, 2025 at 12:06 AM
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p.1 #7 · Pursuing a career in wildlife photography


Keep your eyes out for nascent and emerging platforms where there are barely any folks doing it mainstream. If you're able to, attend next year's IBC (this year's just passed) and talk and talk and talk with the people focused on the future of media vs. the past and present. It's 100% possible to pursue your interest, just stay flexible and open minded on what the visual medium can be. You have the invaluable advantage of time and youth, and really innovative peers in your generation.


Sep 16, 2025 at 08:14 PM
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I've been incredibly lucky to have made my living with my cameras since 1979. Back then, there were many ways to do this. Magazines paid real money, corporations paid a lot more money, and advertising paid stupid money. Photography was also very difficult to do at a high level. You really needed to have your technique down, and know how to light anything and everything because iso 100 was the top end of acceptable quality film for reproduction. Also, most high end shoots were done on medium and large format color transparency film, with zero latitude and dynamic range in the single digits.

Wildlife photography was done well by very few people who knew wildlife as well as they knew their way around a camera. Manual focus, 5 fps, iso 400 tops, stabilization was a tripod, and birds in flight that turned out well were as rare as an honest politician. Hence, good wildlife photos had value. Now, just look at the photos on this site, and it's not so rare anymore. And even the most pedestrian is probably better than anything from the film era. Unless you make photos that no one else can, that are so fantastic that they will stop people in their tracks, it's an uphill battle.

With Ai, the market for original photos is dwindling fast. Most run of the mill still life shooters are being completely replaced by computer generated illustrations. I'm sure there's even ai generated wildlife photos that are incredible.

Also, sports photographers face the same dilemma as wildlife. Everyone wants to do it, and with the right camera and lens, almost anyone can make pro level images. Problem is, there are true superstars in this field, few spots available to grant you the access you need, and a horde of people who are beating on the gates to get in and are willing to work for nothing, or close to it. It's an impossible way to make a living unless you are extremely lucky, or stupendously amazing.
There are a few avenues that may not be able to be replaced by ai, and that's documentary and event photography. But in the future, who knows.

I currently make my living shooting for a university on staff. Been here 25 years and it's still a great job. I love what I do. And being here and documenting what goes on with real faces in real spaces, again, cannot be easily replaced by an algorithm. At least not yet. And by then, I'll be retired or dead.

The best way to go, is find a lane where you can really stand out, and then find as many different income streams as possible. Become an influencer, expert, ambassador, teacher, mentor, videographer, ai wrangler, and keep reinventing yourself as the world changes. It can be done, but you really have to be absolutely dedicated, and it helps to have an enormous trust fund and/or a well paid spouse.






Sep 17, 2025 at 10:21 AM
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p.1 #9 · Pursuing a career in wildlife photography


btbwildlife08 wrote:
Hi all, I'm here to talk about career advise, if anyone is willing to chat, please feel free to respond.

I'm 17 years old, and I'm currently studying photography A-Level, and in a week or two I will be moving up into year 2 at college. I have been shooting wildlife for a few months now, and before hand I was photographing my mates doing mountain biking. Since I started I've gained an interest in birds, and a fair amount of knowledge. As I'm only 17, I've just been working on a portfolio website, and some socials accounts (Instagram, X etcetera),
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Jan Wegener seems to be making a good living doing bird photography and his videos are generally good anyway so you might take a look. Thomas Mangelsen too, Steve perry used to be active on here

You'll probably have to push gear and do workshops, something beyond actual photography. People used to make a lot off click throughs

You can sell prints at craft shows. People probably say you can't make money off flower photos but you probably could sell some there, wildlife could be tough at those just depends I suppose.



Sep 18, 2025 at 01:01 PM
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johnvanr wrote:
Look for Andy Rouse. He makes a living of it, but I'm not sure how. Also, Morten Hilmer. They seem to be nice guys, so just approach them online and ask.

I'm sure it can be done, but only with a lot of dedication, hard work and determination.

The days of shooting wildlife stock and making a killing are long over, sad to say.

Good luck.


I think almost all of these folks make most of their money not from selling their prints but from tours and workshops and sometimes books and such.



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And when it comes to videos, a good friend of mine, who has nearly 500K followers on Instagram and around 700K subscribers on YouTube, creates stunning birds-in-flight videos almost exclusively. And while I think he earns a decent income from this, he still relies on his day job as his primary source of income...


Sep 18, 2025 at 01:51 PM
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OwlsEyes wrote:
Everyone here has offered you good advice... I'll add a bit more without being snarky, sarcastic, or condescending.
I began my career in 1985 as a field ecologist working on pelagic seabirds in the arctic. I was in the middle of my degree in biology, was hired as a researcher, and carried a camera as a way to document my research and that of the PI (primary investigator). Some of the images I made during my research expeditions were published in journals and magazines, but the research was my primary source of income. Becoming a field biologist made me a better
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Bruce pretty much hit it out of the park with his reply. I started working on my biology degree when I was 17, but I always had it in the back of my mind to become a wildlife photographer. In the middle of year-2 I had a long talk with the university counselor to discuss changing my major emphasis. He was a good man who understood my wishes but it didn't stop him from defining reality and he lined me out with pretty much exactly what Bruce outlined. He didn't crush my dream, but he sure helped me sort what did and didn't make sense. Eventually I went on and had a great career as a wildlife biologist in Colorado.

As the saying goes that 'Hindsight is 20/20' I often think about how things would have been different (not necessarily better) if I hadn't had that talk with him.

My biology degree is what placed food on our table (a family needs to be fed). If I could change things I would have double majored in Biology and Business. Wildlife photography is more than just taking pretty pictures (which we all enjoy) but you need to have a strong sense of the business side of things (which I don't).

I don't know where you live but something to consider is moving out west near some of our national parks so that you can pursue your degree and continue shooting on whatever free time you have. Two examples are Montana State U. at Billings and Colorado State U. at Ft. Collins. Yellowstone and Rocky Mountain NP's are your back-yards.

Work on your degrees and spend time in the NP's on your time off. A final piece of advise....spend more time pursuing your passion than chasing pretty girls. Once you get married and have kids your priorities will shift rapidly! I have the t-shirt.



Nov 23, 2025 at 11:32 AM
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A nature-related or outdoorsy career with photography on the side is probably the only way to do it these days. Very few people make a living only from photography, but plenty of people probably make a living doing something that gives them access to the things they like to photograph.


Nov 29, 2025 at 12:09 AM
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As another young person here, I don’t believe there is a way to make a living off of any type of nature, landscape, or wildlife photography. You have to gain a social media following and have affiliate links, sell workshops, sell presets, make YouTube videos, etc. to be able to make money off of it. Nature photography itself really has no way of making a viable source of income the way that other types of photography do.

Portraits, weddings, products, vehicles, media for businesses are all types of photography that people want to pay for everyday, anywhere you go. There just isn’t a solid customer base to purchase pictures of mountains, birds, wildlife, and landscapes the way that there is for the other subjects I mentioned. It comes down to what people need. They don’t need to purchase a cool picture of trees, but they do need to purchase wedding or family photos to hold onto forever. I don’t mean to be harsh, but it’s the reality of it



Dec 03, 2025 at 01:55 PM
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Duramaxjon wrote:
Portraits, weddings, products, vehicles, media for businesses are all types of photography that people want to pay for everyday, anywhere you go. There just isn’t a solid customer base to purchase pictures of mountains, birds, wildlife, and landscapes the way that there is for the other subjects I mentioned. It comes down to what people need. They don’t need to purchase a cool picture of trees, but they do need to purchase wedding or family photos to hold onto forever. I don’t mean to be harsh, but it’s the reality of it


You are correct, however not so much for products and vehicles, those have been made less viable due to Ai generated images of such things.

Events will never be recreated in Ai, at least not for a while until DJI makes a micro drone that can just hover at any party and shoot away autonomously, and then, the whole photography industry is dust.



Dec 03, 2025 at 05:53 PM
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Wíthout a personal relation to it few people will buy a big wildlife print to hang it on their wall. What might work is photographing the animals around a neighbourhoud and offering prints to the residents. Or offer photos of events where people specifically go to see these animals, e.g. whale whatching. But of cause the most obvious opportunities will be occupied already.
Then there are many jobs that would profit from someone who can make good photos.
Then there are very special niches like micro photography where ordinary photographers don't venture in, but there is a huge lot to learn in front and no guaranty that it will pay out.



May 08, 2026 at 01:10 AM
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The OP is long gone, perhaps deciding on another career.

EBH



May 09, 2026 at 10:32 AM
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petersm59 wrote:
I currently make my living shooting for a university on staff. Been here 25 years and it's still a great job. I love what I do. And being here and documenting what goes on with real faces in real spaces, again, cannot be easily replaced by an algorithm. At least not yet. And by then, I'll be retired or dead.


I retired a couple of years ago from 27 years as a university photographer, before that I spent ten years as a news shooter. Higher ed is really the last bastion for staff positions for photographers, and it truly is a great gig. The hours are long, the pay is okay, but the variety of assignments is great, and I got to work with a lot of very smart people.

Now that I'm retired, I'm getting more into bird photography, something I'd never done. It's an interesting challenge, and keeps me making photos when anything else I try to shoot feels too much like work lol.

To the OP: the advice you are getting here is, unfortunately, spot on. There really aren't any companies hiring full time staff wildlife photographers. The magazines that used to buy photos are almost entirely gone, and any remaining got rid of all their staffers years ago. There is no stock photo market for wildlife, not that pays anything.

I used to have college students ask me about being a working photographer, and I'll tell you what I told them. If you have a true passion for photography, keep it as a passion and get a job that will let you enjoy it as a hobby. Seriously, go be a dentist or a stockbroker or vibe coder or whatever and make wildlife pictures for fun. Turning your passion into a career is a great way to stop being passionate about it. Good luck.



May 22, 2026 at 07:17 AM
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Check out Simon d'Entremont's youtube channel. I think today's creative needs to be an entrepreneur. Once you create content in your backyard or a short drive away, you can gain a following on social media Like Youtube and start earning enough for trips to be worth it. I'm sure you get enough experience in your belt and you can host photography trips


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