I want to have a crop sensor camera (also physically smaller) to go with my R6/2, just because of size and weight alone, and also for the 24MP crop being a no-glass "1.6x TC" for my 24MP fullframe.
At first I made a horrible mistake of buying a R50, which didn't really cut it. All my fault, because I did not do pedantic research and didn't find that R50 has no sensor cleaner and no old-style flash hot shoe. Maybe the only saving grace for that camera is the body size, which is really small. It was from a second hand, so I kept it, but it just didn't feel right switching between R6/2 and R50.
Well, now I got R10 and feel almost immediately at home. Apart from having the sensor cleaner and the backward compatible hot shoe (which also lets me use the GP-E2 GPS tracker, just like R6/2, I'm glad Canon kept this option on R10), one of the best things is the inclusion of the rear joystick which lets me control the AF point just like on R6/2.
R10 seems to be a good camera to accompany R6/2 on a trip.
The R10/RF 100-400 has been a great compact and lightweight combo for me. I’ve had good success with it on safaris and it’s my go-to combo for local and travel nature shooting. Fast enough and good eye-AF. With IS lenses, I haven’t missed IBIS. Adding the RFS 10-18 and 18-150 lenses to the 100-400 has given me a very small and light setup that covers the range from 16-640mm equivalent. Very satisfied with the value and performance of this kit. I tend to use it more than my FF R8.
I have the R6, and looked at the R50, R10 & the lowly, R100 for the crop. After comparing all the features, for my need, I chose the R100. I don't need a flippy screen or self-cleaning sensor, and very seldom would I use the pop-up flash, other than for fill, let alone, an add on flash. I was impressed by the focus of the R100 and how it nailed a squirrel behind a metal fence, with tall grass blowing in a breeze. I shot several frames, and they all were sharp. I use it mainly for moon shots now. I bought the R100 w/ the kit lens, refurbished, for $239, 2 years ago. I sold the lens, and the camera was $150.
Jim
Canon EOS R100RF600mm F11 IS STM lens600mmf/11.01/200s400 ISO0.0 EV
Canon EOS R100RF600mm F11 IS STM lens600mmf/11.01/60s400 ISO0.0 EV
Canon EOS R100RF600mm F11 IS STM lens600mmf/11.01/60s400 ISO0.0 EV
Canon EOS R100RF600mm F11 IS STM lens600mmf/11.01/160s100 ISO0.0 EV
The R10 does feel good in hand, and I do appreciate the additional controls and settings. For my purposes, though, the R50 was a reasonable knocking around and travel choice—great autofocus, easy to carry, and worry-free.
EB-1 wrote:
I'm sure it is good for some purposes, but that puny battery just ruins it for me.
EBH
Yes, that's a bit of a problem, pronounced by the fact there is no battery grip, which is a bigger problem than the battery capacity itself. Well at least this battery is a wee bit larger than the LP-E12 used in SL1.
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mborozny wrote:
The R10 does feel good in hand, and I do appreciate the additional controls and settings. For my purposes, though, the R50 was a reasonable knocking around and travel choice—great autofocus, easy to carry, and worry-free.
I got the R10 when it was rather new, but could not resist the R7. As the R7 has almost the same cons as the R10, I switched the R7 for the 200-800 and have now a new R10.
The main drawback that the R10 shares with the R7 is the slow read speed, and the R10 distortes fast subjects even more than the R7. But all the capabilities in that small package, even pre capture, makes it perfect for a light kit.
As mentioned above, the RF 100-400 with or without the RF 1.4x is perfect on the R10. For wide angle the R100 with the RF-S 10-16 makes a perfect match for my use for days when the HeavyWeights stay at home.
I have not found the LP-E17 battery to be limiting. I find other stuff of Life harder to carry than a spare battery.
Agreed, the battery is small and shouldn't pose a significant challenge to carry another one or two, such as from a reputable third party, if cost is a concern.
Another option could be to run the camera from a portable PD capable power bank, but it is not an elegant solution.
There are some small PD power banks available that should be able to power the camera over USB-C, assuming the R10 supports this (the R6II certainly does). For example this very compact power bank. It would just be a matter of figuring out how to combine it with the camera. Whether it's attaching a cold shoe to it to mount in the hot shoe, attaching to the tripod socket or just dangling off the neck strap or strap lug. No, not elegant, but an option if battery life is really an issue. I've been doing this with the R5II and a 20k mAh power brick for long, high intensity events so I don't have to think about battery swaps at all. I connect it via a USB magnetic tip at the camera so the cable can break away easily if it catches on something in order to reduce stress on the camera's USB port. And when the camera is off, it will top up the battery in the camera.
Starting in 2022, certainly with the R6 mk2, Canon R cameras had new power management capabilities that extended battery life quite a lot relative to the first generation R cameras. Not sure if the R7 was one of the new ones but the R50 and R100 came out later so most probable. I have the R8 and it takes a lot of pictures, with review and standby time, including with IS lenses, before I need to swap out the battery. I have 2 spares but have never used the second.
Apart from having the sensor cleaner and the backward compatible hot shoe (which also lets me use the GP-E2 GPS tracker, just like R6/2, I'm glad Canon kept this option on R10), one of the best things is the inclusion of the rear joystick which lets me control the AF point just like on R6/2.
