p.4 #3 · What’s Sony’s Answer to Nikkor Z 24-120 f/4?
Just a side question. It appears from the post here that dual system full frame users are Sony and Nikon as appointed to Sony and Canon. is that true? Or is it because of the topic and forum chosen?
I ask because I shoot Sony and Canon right now.
Mostly for historical/legacy reasons. And I got my f/1.2 50mm and 85mm primes from Canon.
Did try Nikon and owned the Z9 and 14-24/2.8 and 24-120/4 along with other focal lengths more unique to Nikon but at the time gave it up since the Z9 didn’t have a lighter body to pair with it.
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p.4 #4 · What’s Sony’s Answer to Nikkor Z 24-120 f/4?
swldstn wrote:
Just a side question. It appears from the post here that dual system full frame users are Sony and Nikon as appointed to Sony and Canon. is that true? Or is it because of the topic and forum chosen?
I ask because I shoot Sony and Canon right now.
Mostly for historical/legacy reasons. And I got my f/1.2 50mm and 85mm primes from Canon.
Did try Nikon and owned the Z9 and 14-24/2.8 and 24-120/4 along with other focal lengths more unique to Nikon but at the time gave it up since the Z9 didn’t have a lighter body to pair with it.
I think there are all combinations of dual system users. This thread is posted to the Sony forum about a Nikon lens so naturally draws Sony and Nikon dual system users. My perception is Sony and Canon is not the most common combination but not unheard of either. I currently use Sony and Fuji (have used GF mount for awhile and just adding X mount now), but I have been a Sony, Nikon, & Fuji GF user, a Sony, Leica M, and Fuji GF user, and a long while ago a Canon and Sony user. I started with Canon DSLR, then added Sony when I bought my first mirrorless.
p.4 #5 · What’s Sony’s Answer to Nikkor Z 24-120 f/4?
swldstn wrote:
Just a side question. It appears from the post here that dual system full frame users are Sony and Nikon as appointed to Sony and Canon. is that true? Or is it because of the topic and forum chosen?
I ask because I shoot Sony and Canon right now.
Mostly for historical/legacy reasons. And I got my f/1.2 50mm and 85mm primes from Canon.
Did try Nikon and owned the Z9 and 14-24/2.8 and 24-120/4 along with other focal lengths more unique to Nikon but at the time gave it up since the Z9 didn’t have a lighter body to pair with it.
In the early mirrorless days, I feel there were more Canon and Sony dual users as Canon DSLR lenses had better smart adapters than Nikon to Sony.
Currently, though, you can adapt Sony E lenses to Nikon Z with smart adapters. It's pretty much the only two mirrorless mounts you can adapt between while keeping AF. Sony E is also the mount with the largest number of mirrorless lenses. Nikon Z also has cameras with specs / prices that Sony does not match, especially for video, such as in camera raw. So when you add all this together, you have Nikon Z users wanting lenses that are available on E mount but not on Z mount, and Sony users wanting Nikon Z bodies. Once you have bodies in both systems, you will probably mix and match lenses too, since Nikon has some lenses Sony does not have, such as the 600mm PF and 800mm PF lenses.
If Sony E lenses could be adapted to Canon R or Canon R lenses adapted to Sony E I think you would see more of a mix of Canon and Sony mirrorless users. If I could adapt the Canon R 10-20mm f4 to E or Z mount, I know it would be in my bag. I just can't see adding a third mount body to the mix.
p.4 #6 · What’s Sony’s Answer to Nikkor Z 24-120 f/4?
I've been tempted by this lens to switch to Nikon, but their bodies are still too big for what I do these days, the a7cr is wonderfully small for backpacking, cycling, running with a camera. However if they released a rangefinder style z6iii they would likely have my money. If I was doing pro work I'd definitely be on Nikon already but I'm not so size still wins.
I think the best hope for Sony is Tamron updating their 28-200 if they can improve the IQ to match the 50-300 that would probably be my perfect set up. Would love to see Sony update the 24-105 soon though with the extra reach.
p.4 #7 · What’s Sony’s Answer to Nikkor Z 24-120 f/4?
Note that if you are using an A7RIV, A7RV, or A7CR, you essentially have a 1.1x crop ability built in compared to a 45mp sensor, which effectively gives a 24-115mm range when needed on the Sony 24-105.
I’ve owned all three versions of the Nikon 24-120. In Z mount it was my 2nd favorite midrange lens (the first being the Z 24-70/2.8). In F mount the 2nd version produced some of my favorite landscape prints hanging in my home gallery, despite the fact it was far from perfect and optically inferior to the Sony 24-105.
In my Sony system I have been using the superb 24-70/2.8 GMII as my main midrange zoom and have also accumulated through various trades and deals an excellent Tamron 28-75/2.8 G2 and 28-200. Recently I picked up a like-new 24-105G and have carefully tested it, and this copy is quite sharp corner to corner at every marked focal length and well centered. I ran a side by side comparison against my 24-70/2.8 GMII at f/8 where I will typically be shooting, results are below including a couple of 100% crop screenshots (both files equalized for exposure and white balance and same sharpening applied in Lightroom, no other processing). Following that are two images shot wide open at f/4 at 24mm and 105mm:
ILCE-7RM5FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS lens105mmf/4.01/125s2500 ISO0.0 EV
ILCE-7RM5FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS lens24mmf/4.01/8s5000 ISO+0.7 EV
p.4 #8 · What’s Sony’s Answer to Nikkor Z 24-120 f/4?
Craig Gillette wrote:
I'd think the weight difference might still work to the 24-105/4 or many users, travel?
I brought my 24-105 on a trip to Namibia recently. I brought it because of weight concerns and in a couple instances, it was the perfect lens for the situation. I paired it with the 100-400 (e.g., on game drives), and the combo worked well. My copy is very sharp edge to edge, as sharp as most of my primes in the range, and it is infinitely better than my old Canon EF equivalent.
p.4 #9 · What’s Sony’s Answer to Nikkor Z 24-120 f/4?
Nikon1960 wrote:
I like the Z 24-120mm so much, I own a Z8 just to use that lens...
So, IMO no good answer.
I agree with is completely, but also own the Z8 for the Z 600mm PF. The 24-120, the 600 PF and a 1.4X is about as light and perfect of a wildlife set up as you will find. I just wish Nikon had a small light wide lens. It's the Sony 16-35 GM II and the 20mm G and prospect of buying a 14mm GM that keep me from dropping out of Sony. The 300 GM is also pretty special.
