We have to get an Adobe plan and it is a bit confusing.
They have Photoshop with a few other things and then Photoshop with LR, etc. https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html?plan=individual
The PS plan is $264 yet the PS+LR plan is $240
I'm not sure why the PS+LR is less, but we only want to install basic PS with no other junk on the computer. Does it matter which version, or is the cheaper one fine? From what I understand the computer must be connected to the internet every month or so. Are all the plans the same for the activation period; its not very clear? We would be using a pi or something or other. OS is Win 10 for the foreseable future. Thanks for any advice.
The Adobe "Photographers Package" is a cloud service subscription, and the least expensive way to get PS. In the package you load only what you want of the available on your local machine. IOW if you only want PS, you don't have to load LRC.
You can also load and activate PS onto 2 machines and as many as you want/have, just switching activation to the one needed at any time (you do need to be connected to do that).
You want the photography plan with LR, PS, and Bridge/ACR. (I think you also get access to the tablet version of the apps under the plan if that is useful to you.)
I’m still on the old annual plan at half that price, IIRC. The difference is that it comes with truly minimal cloud storage, which is ideal since I don’t need Adobe cloud storage — I already have that from someone else.
Is that option still available, or is the twice-as-expensive version now the only one available to new buyers?
Jack Flesher wrote:
The Adobe "Photographers Package" is a cloud service subscription, and the least expensive way to get PS. In the package you load only what you want of the available on your local machine. IOW if you only want PS, you don't have to load LRC.
The "Photography Plan" is not a cloud service subscription. You get Lightroom (cloud), Lightroom Classic (desktop), Photoshop, and mobile apps.
I only want the PS, on Windows for now. The goal is for the machine to connect to the internet only briefly about once per month to maintain the license activation if I understand correctly.
I'm not storing any data on the Adove Clouds, so there is no legit reason to be connected constantly.
EB-1 wrote:
We have to get an Adobe plan and it is a bit confusing.
They have Photoshop with a few other things and then Photoshop with LR, etc. https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html?plan=individual
The PS plan is $264 yet the PS+LR plan is $240
I'm not sure why the PS+LR is less, but we only want to install basic PS with no other junk on the computer. Does it matter which version, or is the cheaper one fine? From what I understand the computer must be connected to the internet every month or so. Are all the plans the same for the activation period; its not very clear? We would be using a pi or something or other. OS is Win 10 for the foreseable future. Thanks for any advice.
EB-1 wrote:
I only want the PS, on Windows for now. The goal is for the machine to connect to the internet only briefly about once per month to maintain the license activation if I understand correctly.
I'm not storing any data on the Adove Clouds, so there is no legit reason to be connected constantly.
EBH
Unless there is a downside to having your computer connected, there are at least some reasons to let Adobe products connect as they wish. Adobe has done an admirable job of making the updating process almost completely invisible. They are regularly addressing small issues and adding/refining features that come as part of these automatic updates.
A decade ago I might have been (OK, would have been) leery about this, but after using the subscription-based version since it came out I have changed my tune and now thing it is a good thing.
As to storing stuff in the Adobe “Cloud,” I also have essentially no use for that. I have plenty of local storage and I have cloud-based storage already from another source that I prefer to use. So I have the Adobe plan that includes the barest minimum default cloud storage… and I do not use it.
I don't want to learn about what port rules Adobe needs and set that up. I've spent way too much of my life tracking down change controls, and today there are so many uncontrolled changes driven by the software vendors it is ridiculous. At this time I'm not having my most performant system needed for image processing let loose to do what they want. I hope there is some way for the user to manage updates.
Currently I'm at about 25% on the time with images and doing other things not related to photography. Mostly I'll be online with a lesser system, either Windows or Linux. Having only 2 licenses does create more segmentation than I'd like.
EB-1 wrote:
I don't want to learn about what port rules Adobe needs and set that up. I've spent way too much of my life tracking down change controls, and today there are so many uncontrolled changes driven by the software vendors it is ridiculous. At this time I'm not having my most performant system needed for image processing let loose to do what they want. I hope there is some way for the user to manage updates.
Currently I'm at about 25% on the time with images and doing other things not related to photography. Mostly I'll be online with a lesser system, either Windows or Linux. Having only 2 licenses does create more segmentation than I'd like.
There are settings in the Adobe Creative Cloud app, which is used to manage/update the apps in your subscription plan, to turn on/off "Automatically keep Create Cloud up to date" and "Let the Creative Cloud app keep all of your apps up to date automatically". I have both turned off (which it sounds like you will want to do too), so when I just launched Creative Cloud app it informed me that "A new version of Create Cloud is now available", and gave me the option to update. I've also turned off
"Notifications about available updates for your installed apps" because I found them annoying and I get informed about the updates on LightroomQueen.com. FWIW, I typically do update to new versions of the Creative Cloud app when I'm notified they are available, but I always wait a few weeks to update Lightroom Classic, while monitoring LightroomQueen.com to see what problems are reported. In several cases, I have skipped releases and waited months to avoid newly introduced bugs or performance regression.
The Adobe plans allow for use on two computers (or at least my one does). If you try a third one then Adobe will want you to sign in to register the current computer and deregister one of the previous two. What irritates me is that changing thunderbolt peripherals (adding or removing) counts as being a different computer, presumably because thunderbolt is linked directly to PCIe which is the heart of the computer. Then you will have sign in to the dobe account and make a change.
I hope it does not care about the internal SSDs every time the image is restored. My main machine has only 40TB internal SSDs, but it is a bit complicated until I upgrade.
To be honest, I'm not 100% certain but I'm pretty sure that restoring a cloned image of a drive or volume from an external device to an internal drive has not been a problem, but adding a new drive or removing one via thunderbolt is a problem when done too often while Adobe s/w is running. It's more about the hardware than the content, and thunderbolt drives (unlike usb drives) are an extension of the hardware.
When the problem arises, Adobe wants me to reject one of the two configurations that it knows about in favour of the third. It involves me signing in to my Adobe account. Not a huge deal unless there is no internet (rare) but awkward if I sacrifice the wrong configuration. Adobe gives each one a very simple description without listing all of the drives, etc., that make it unique. From Adobe's perspective it's more about licensing say a PC and a laptop, rather than two variants of the one pc.
Normally I would restore an image internally to the same partition. That frequency would depend on the user. I could also across a network, but that's slower. USB/external is more likely if a significant problem occurs and the system is unusable. Replacing a drive is more of an in-person activity. It seems like not too much hassle to active occasionally if it not every time an image is restored.
gdanmitchell wrote:
You want the photography plan with LR, PS, and Bridge/ACR. (I think you also get access to the tablet version of the apps under the plan if that is useful to you.)
I’m still on the old annual plan at half that price, IIRC. The difference is that it comes with truly minimal cloud storage, which is ideal since I don’t need Adobe cloud storage — I already have that from someone else.
Is that option still available, or is the twice-as-expensive version now the only one available to new buyers?
Thought I would chime in since I just researched and posted in this subforum.
gdanmitchell you have the same plan I have, is called the 20GB Photography Plan - it is not offered anymore to new subscribers. We are grand-fathered in you could say.
In addition if you have been paying monthly it is increasing by 50% ; you can via chat with Adobe change your monthly plan over to a yearly payment - pay up front and by doing so you retain the $9.99 rate ($119.88).
I just did this a couple days ago.
For the OP ; look online for sales for the 1TB Photography Plan offered at retailers and buy a 12 month / full year. Can be found for much less than $19.99 per month that way. Every year you can find it on sale this way if you look around, if you don't have an account already buying 12 months will start one, if you do have 1 buying it will extend you by 12 more months.
I see it on sale for $139.98 right now at B&H and many other retailers. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1786747-REG/adobe_65321149_creative_cloud_photography_plan.html
This 1TB plan includes everything you need/want.
I could also across a network, but that's slower. USB/external is more likely if a significant problem occurs and the system is unusable. Replacing a drive is more of an in-person activity. It seems like not too much hassle to active occasionally if it not every time an image is restored.