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p.1 #1 · Macbook Upgrade Advice


I have a 2021 16" M1 Macbook Pro 1TB and I love the laptop. The only annoying thing about it is having to manage 1TB onboard storage and that's my main reason of wanting to upgrade. 2TB would be comfortable, 4TB would be more than comfortable but would still be nice and future proof. I like to keep a bigger onboard library even though I can and do manage with less using external hard drives and a NAS.

Anyway, the bigger storage pushes me toward the used max range. If I'm already buying something to upgrade the storage, I'm trying to figure out if I should just focus on the storage or open up the budget a bit more for a newer generation with better speed. I primarily use photoshop and lightroom, I am not a big video editor, so I know I really am not going to push the laptops. But my biggest tasks that currently take enough time I usually set them off and walk away are batch processing AI masks, batch processing noise reduction etc. I tend to use all my RAM with both PS and LR concurrently running, but the memory recycling is efficient enough it never seems to bog the system down. I'd be willing to pay a premium to take one of those batch processing down from 10 mins to cut it in half. I cant remember exactly what performance numbers drive those types of tasks, single core, multi core, CPU, GPU or both. I know I wont utilize a lot of the Max performance, but if the part I do use is noticeably faster, that would be a cherry on top of the extra storage.

I love my battery life, and the screen of the 16". Performance is fine, although more is always better. It's also fine enough to keep managing my storage for another few years before upgrading. I'm just never going to be willing to pay new Apple prices for how much they upcharge for storage which is my biggest want.

I found what seems like a decent local deal on a Macbook M3 Max 4TB/128 GB for $3k I'm considering. I'm trying to decide if it will be so overkill to just wait for a better deal on something like an M1 Max.

Swimming through the matrix of M1-4 Max/Pro options can be a lot to decipher. Anyone with some practical experience or advice would be much appreciated!



Aug 05, 2025 at 01:20 PM
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p.1 #2 · Macbook Upgrade Advice


Why are you using so much storage on your computer? I have an M2 32GB and 500GB and I only keep the latest shoot on the drive, everything else is backed up on two separate external drives. Keep your money, invest in a smart backup plan with matching drives and keep your MBP lean.


Aug 05, 2025 at 02:22 PM
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p.1 #3 · Macbook Upgrade Advice


I agree with the above -- internal SSD storage on the Mac line is over-priced. I buy mine with 1TB main drives and carry an external 2TB TB SSD. The external is relatively small, super fast and less than half the price per TB of increasing the internal SSD. Other reality is even on large, several day long shoots, I have been able to use the desktop (internal SSD) for image storage and haven't needed to offload onto the external until I get home and send them to permanent storage.


Aug 05, 2025 at 02:32 PM
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p.1 #4 · Macbook Upgrade Advice


+1 for the above: external drives are the way to go.


Aug 05, 2025 at 02:55 PM
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p.1 #5 · Macbook Upgrade Advice


That’s a very reasonable solution. I guess it’s mostly for luxury of keeping a couple years of shoots onboard for me so whenever I’m away from my home desk, I pick up older albums and re-organize them, touch them up etc. I know it can be done with good file offloading management and previews etc. It’s also for when I haven’t kept up with cleaning up and want to throw a big shoot or project on to not have to run out of room. Still could be avoided with just constant housekeeping.
It’s sort of infuriating with memory being as cheap and accessible as it is in the modern world to be tied to apple pricing and everyone being stuck on 512 or 1TB without paying a fortune. It was always a no brainer on widows systems to just throw a big SSD in there and not worry about it.
I settled on my current setup because it’s a sweet spot of value, and it still is. My plan was to make it work until prices come down enough on a used option that offers significant upgrade at a price that doesn’t make me puke. I’m still a bit hesitant to throw this much at it when my setup is pretty solid as is.



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p.1 #6 · Macbook Upgrade Advice


Regarding Adobe AI Denoise, it's GPU intensive and about the only way to speed it up is to throw more GPU cores at it. Newer cores are slightly faster each generation, so that also adds up.

I don't know how many files you're processing or their resolution, if you need to wait 10 minutes. I just went through an upgrade from an M1 Pro 10/16 cores (CPU/GPU) to M4 Max 16/40 cores. AI Denoise is about 2.5x faster than the old system. For example, a 45MP Canon R5II file is now about 12-15 seconds.

Lightroom Classic now also runs very smoothly. The 45MP files were causing some lags and delays with the old system that upset the fluidity of the workflow.

If you're going to go for a used M1 or M2 system, you may not realize much performance gain, though a Max chip will still push through AI Denoise faster than your Pro. You'd need to find some older benchmarks to get an idea of how much difference you might see. Check the Art is Right youtube channel for such benchmark comparisons. Also there were a couple threads here by jhapeman where he posted his own image conversion benchmarks with various generations of Apple silicon.



Aug 05, 2025 at 04:19 PM
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p.1 #7 · Macbook Upgrade Advice


Appreciate the info, I knew the M4s are fast but that’s pretty crazy to be that much faster


Aug 05, 2025 at 10:53 PM
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p.1 #8 · Macbook Upgrade Advice


GGEIS wrote:
Appreciate the info, I knew the M4s are fast but that’s pretty crazy to be that much faster


Another thing that is crazy is how fast these are now compared to 10-15 year old systems. Up until around 3 years ago I was still using a 2010 iMac with i7 processor and it did OK with ~20MP files processed through LRC standalone v6, so didn't really feel much need to upgrade. I also used it to rip DVDs to MKV video files and convert to more highly compressed MP4 files. I recently found a cache of MKVs that I hadn't converted, so decided to give them a try on the M4 Max. Back on the iMac conversions ran roughly in 'real time' for 720P resolution videos. Basically around 30fps. On the M4 Max it was converting them in the 500-600fps range. Some were even in the 1000fps range. So instead of it taking roughly two hours to convert a two hour video, it did it in about 10 minutes. That iMac was pretty much useless for doing any video editing work. I remember cobbling together a short 1080P video in iMovie because it was the only video editor that would still run on that system. And it was painful. Now on Apple silicon 1080P doesn't make the system blink.



Aug 05, 2025 at 11:34 PM
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p.1 #9 · Macbook Upgrade Advice


Haha, that is pretty mind blowing. I switched from a windows to the M1. The speed was great but maybe just as enjoyable was the efficiency with that speed and the laptop working silently when at idle or moderate tasks and only kicking on fans when it’s time to crunch. That always used to drive me crazy when I’d have like an excel sheet open and my windows laptop is burning it down.
It is really fast enough still that I have to really think about what doubling the speed is worth to me. It’s super snappy culling through photos and normal editing tasks and anything that takes several minutes I’m probably going to walk away for anyway and let it finish.



Aug 06, 2025 at 07:12 AM
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p.1 #10 · Macbook Upgrade Advice


I just got a m4 max with a 4tb internal drive. I had a m1 max with 2tb internal. I do a fair amount of shoots requiring a few hundred gigs at a time. With the 2tb drive, I was frequently trying to move items off the working drive (internal) to an external 8tb nvme drive (very fast, but not as fast as the internal). I would have to also do a backup to my NAS or another external ssd drive for redundancy. I found a huge pain in the arse to constantly try to manage the internal drive space and on more than a few occasions, would have to move projects off of the internal to an external before I could download the images to work on them. This was especially true in photo workrooms which meant I had to carry an external drive all of the time. Yes, it's small, light and easily portable, but just another piece to carry in an already full backpack. Anyway, the 4tb seems to be the sweet spot for me. I've currently got 9 sizable projects on my internal 4tb drive with a little more than 2tb free. Room for more!

Bottom line for me is the simplicity of one working drive, one external backup and one NAS for everything is so much easier than trying to move files around and make room so the computer could work efficiently.

Yes, I paid a premium for the apple storage. But at age 60, this may be my last "work" laptop and it offers room for growth. I may not ever need another work computer. So, I think a critical factor in deciding on a new one is how long do you keep your computers. If you keep them 5+ years, spend as much as possible. If you only keep them a couple of years, it's probably not as important to future proof your purchase.

After a month of ownership, I really do love having the 4tb and not worrying about shuffling folders around. The price was worth it for me.

GGEIS wrote:
I have a 2021 16" M1 Macbook Pro 1TB and I love the laptop. The only annoying thing about it is having to manage 1TB onboard storage and that's my main reason of wanting to upgrade. 2TB would be comfortable, 4TB would be more than comfortable but would still be nice and future proof. I like to keep a bigger onboard library even though I can and do manage with less using external hard drives and a NAS.

Anyway, the bigger storage pushes me toward the used max range. If I'm already buying something to upgrade the storage, I'm trying
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