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p.2 #1 · X2D Landscape Kit


I suggested the 90V was the one to get IMHO.

Also be careful assuming the CF150 and 135/2.8 are nearly the same. They were designed for different systems=150 for 6x6 and 135 for 44x43. Thus I prefer to compare angle of view (AOV) for various lenses.

Diagonal/Horizontal AOV for the 150 is about 29˚/21˚ and for the XCD 135 Diagonal/Horizontal AOV is 23/˚18˚.



Jul 22, 2025 at 05:37 PM
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p.2 #2 · X2D Landscape Kit


Yeah, I would prefer the 90v, but it is 2x's the price...and not sure where I assumed the CF 150 and 135 are nearly the same, only that the CF 150 is lighter...it might be close to same weight with the adapter. However, I might end up going for the 135 as you effectively get two lenses in one with the 1.7x adapter, and do prefer the 135 AOV to that of the 150.

Appreciate the feesback.
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Rod

stgrove wrote:
I suggested the 90V was the one to get IMHO.

Also be careful assuming the CF150 and 135/2.8 are nearly the same. They were designed for different systems=150 for 6x6 and 135 for 44x43. Thus I prefer to compare angle of view (AOV) for various lenses.

Diagonal/Horizontal AOV for the 150 is about 29˚/21˚ and for the XCD 135 Diagonal/Horizontal AOV is 23/˚18˚.




Jul 23, 2025 at 02:21 AM
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Rod.smith7 wrote:
Yeah, I would prefer the 90v, but it is 2x's the price...and not sure where I assumed the CF 150 and 135 are nearly the same, only that the CF 150 is lighter...it might be close to same weight with the adapter. However, I might end up going for the 135 as you effectively get two lenses in one with the 1.7x adapter, and do prefer the 135 AOV to that of the 150.

Appreciate the feesback.
Thanks
Rod

If I can get a more modern lens that is what I would go for in this lineup. Sure the older CF etc lenses can
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Jul 23, 2025 at 07:27 AM
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p.2 #4 · X2D Landscape Kit


stgrove wrote:
Rod.smith7 wrote:
Yeah, I would prefer the 90v, but it is 2x's the price...and not sure where I assumed the CF 150 and 135 are nearly the same, only that the CF 150 is lighter...it might be close to same weight with the adapter. However, I might end up going for the 135 as you effectively get two lenses in one with the 1.7x adapter, and do prefer the 135 AOV to that of the 150.

Appreciate the feesback.
Thanks
Rod

Completely agree, but I do not have an unlimited budget and need to construct a lineup that works...I do think the 135 with tele
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  X2D 100C    XCD 90 lens    90mm    f/8.0    1/350s    800 ISO    +0.7 EV  






  X2D 100C    Unknown lens    1/100s    800 ISO    -1.0 EV  






  X2D 100C    Unknown lens    1/500s    800 ISO    -1.0 EV  






  X2D 100C    Unknown lens    1/800s    1600 ISO    -1.0 EV  






  X2D 100C    Unknown lens    1/400s    200 ISO    -1.3 EV  






  X2D 100C    XCD 90 lens    90mm    f/10.0    1/30s    200 ISO    -1.0 EV  






  X2D 100C    XCD 90 lens    90mm    f/9.0    1/20s    200 ISO    -1.0 EV  






  X2D 100C    Unknown lens    1/320s    1600 ISO    -1.3 EV  






  X2D 100C    Unknown lens    24s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  






  X2D 100C    XCD 90 lens    90mm    f/8.0    25s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  






  X2D 100C    XCD 55V lens    55mm    f/8.0    29s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  




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p.2 #5 · X2D Landscape Kit


Here are a couple more test shots, the ones with no lens are the SMC Pentax-A f/3.5...I did notice what looks like dust spots on some images with the Pentax, pretty decent for $200 and lightweight, waiting on the CF 150mm to give that go as well.






  X2D 100C    Unknown lens    57s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  






  X2D 100C    XCD 55V lens    55mm    f/8.0    34s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  






  X2D 100C    XCD 90 lens    90mm    f/11.0    57s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  




Jul 23, 2025 at 12:18 PM
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p.2 #6 · X2D Landscape Kit


No one really answered your question about the 28P. Yes the 25V is better but I have both and the 25V its huge and does not get grabbed as much as the 28V, which is excellent. It is super easy to travel or hike with. It is going to Alaska with me on Friday and the 25V is not - partially due to weight limits on planes I am shaving ounces since my wildlife kit is so heavy. I agree - the 45P is excellent was well and shows up often for very good prices used on here.


Jul 23, 2025 at 12:47 PM
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p.2 #7 · X2D Landscape Kit


The "original" XCD 90 is a better balanced lens with a more even sharpness right into the corners. Less astigmatism. Its shutter is louder. The overall rendering is gorgeous and often I feel it makes the scenes more like beautiful paintings. It is a bit fatter and heavier, but gives up nothing in IQ.

Rod.smith7 wrote:
Yeah, I would prefer the 90v, but it is 2x's the price...and not sure where I assumed the CF 150 and 135 are nearly the same, only that the CF 150 is lighter...it might be close to same weight with the adapter. However, I might end up going for the 135 as you effectively get two lenses in one with the 1.7x adapter, and do prefer the 135 AOV to that of the 150.

Appreciate the feesback.
Thanks
Rod





Jul 23, 2025 at 03:18 PM
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p.2 #8 · X2D Landscape Kit


There are several "groupings" of the Hassy lenses, each with different own appeal, with different pros/cons:
1) the original X lenses - 21, 30, 45, 65, 80, 90 and 135. Heavier, slower, louder, and without the adjusting ring, but exceptional image quality. On the used market, they are more affordable. The 21 is loved as super wide, easily usable. The 30 is corner to corner sharp, and the 135, while a bit heavy, gives wonderful images with good bokeh, can be used with TX for longer reach, likely tripod only. The 80 is quite fast, f1.8, much loved for its image quality, but heavy and a bit slower to use. The 90 is admired as a modest priced way to get this length.

2) the P range - smaller and lighter 28, 45, and 75. The 28 is not much more than 1" thick, and can slip into any pack, not as good as the 30, w a bit of edge distortion, but a bit of cropping and it's fine. The 45 is surprising good as a first lens, and quite cheap. No experience with the 75.

3) the V range - the newer lenses, with aperture (or your choice) adjustment ring, after autofocus, quieter shutter, and relatively lighter than the earlier X lenses. 25, 38, 55, and 90 available. The 55 is my go-to lens, but it's not as forgiving as the earlier 45. Some prefer the 38 as their standard.

There are also the E lenses (20-35 zoom) which is not too big, interesting but a bit heavy; the 35-75 some like as an all-around, but heavy. A new 150 has been rumored.

Choosing which lens is as both about which focal length as well as which "group". One can assemble a kit with a combination of earlier and later lenses, contrasting smaller or cheaper vs more updated, X vs P vs V. Each group has its appeal.



Jul 24, 2025 at 07:38 AM
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