TENOG wrote:
I don't think we will see a wholesale migration from one to the other. I'm buying an X-E5 but wouldn't think of selling my X-T5. They are different cameras and fit different use cases.
Not a wholesale migration, but that is exactly what I did. Yes, different cameras, different use cases for many. For me, I only had the X-T5 because the X100VI didn't offer the flexibility I wanted, and the X-E5 didn't exist at the time. My use case for Fuji is the X-E5, a compact rangefinder-style camera with a few small prime lenses.
DavidZvi wrote:
Not a wholesale migration, but that is exactly what I did. Yes, different cameras, different use cases for many. For me, I only had the X-T5 because the X100VI didn't offer the flexibility I wanted, and the X-E5 didn't exist at the time. My use case for Fuji is the X-E5, a compact rangefinder-style camera with a few small prime lenses.
Well as I said in an earlier post I bought an X-T5 to learn the system again in anticipation of my pre-ordered X-E5 arriving later. The X-T5 is doing its best to convince me to stick with it but I think I will still get the X- E5 and see how that goes. Do I need both, no, already own other cameras as well but I want to give both a chance.
I am concerned about what lenses I will acquire to keep Fuji my smallest system while still offering interchangeable lenses. Right now I have the XF 16-50/2.8-4.8 R LM WR, XF 27/2.8 R WR and the XF 35/2 R WR and my new X-E5 arrives with the XF 23/2.8 R WR. I was going to try a 56mm and bought the TTartisan 56/1.8 but ended up returning it after I realize you can’t update their lenses using MacOS. I like the idea of the inexpensive Chinese lenses but they of course don’t have aperture rings so question buying into TTartisan, Viltrox, or Sigma at the moment. Even the XF 16-50 doesn’t have a real, labeled aperture ring and the variable aperture ring has too large a spread I think. Of course when I’m looking at size of systems my measuring stick is my rangefinder Sony A7CII/ A7CR with their FE 24/2.8, FE 40/2.5, and FE 50/2.5 G primes. I want my lens and body to weigh less than the 688 grams of that and the X-E5 with the XF 35/2 is only 615 grams and even less with XF 23/2.8.
The Fujifilm f/2 50mm lens is a great option that is quite small for what it does.
My travel/street kit consists of the 14mm f/2.8 (not huge, but not tiny either, but an excellent lens), the 27mm f/2.8, and the 50mm f/2.
If I were in your shoes, I’d shoot the new 23mm f/2.8 and the 27mm f/2.8 for a week or two and then pick one of them to keep — they are close enough in focal length that I don’t think you’ll need both if you are concerned about weight/bulk.
The 27mm could pair well with the older 18mm f/2, while the 23mm might pair wiht the 16mm f/2.8 if you don’t want the 14mm lens.
I'm currently selling my X-T5 (to my cousin) and consolidating to my Zf. I like both cameras but I prefer the Zf experience overall and I don't need to be running two full systems.
That said, I might pick up an older X-mount camera and trim my Fuji lens lineup because I do love the recipes.
I also ordered a Boryoza adapter so I can maybe use the Fuji lenses on the Zf.
deadwolfbones wrote:
I'm currently selling my X-T5 (to my cousin) and consolidating to my Zf. I like both cameras but I prefer the Zf experience overall and I don't need to be running two full systems.
That said, I might pick up an older X-mount camera and trim my Fuji lens lineup because I do love the recipes.
I also ordered a Boryoza adapter so I can maybe use the Fuji lenses on the Zf.
Interesting adapter, be curious how well it works.
gdanmitchell wrote:
The Fujifilm f/2 50mm lens is a great option that is quite small for what it does.
My travel/street kit consists of the 14mm f/2.8 (not huge, but not tiny either, but an excellent lens), the 27mm f/2.8, and the 50mm f/2.
If I were in your shoes, I’d shoot the new 23mm f/2.8 and the 27mm f/2.8 for a week or two and then pick one of them to keep — they are close enough in focal length that I don’t think you’ll need both if you are concerned about weight/bulk.
The 27mm could pair well with the older 18mm f/2, while the 23mm might pair wiht the 16mm f/2.8 if you don’t want the 14mm lens....Show more →
I’m expecting the new 23/2.8 to be better than the 27/2.8 based on what I’ve read so far but you’re right that I will probably choose just one after having som experience with both. Thank you for recommending I take a look at the 50/2 as well now that I need a longer lens still. I’ll also look at the 16mm since it’s smaller as well. Thank you.
gdanmitchell wrote:
The Fujifilm f/2 50mm lens is a great option that is quite small for what it does.
My travel/street kit consists of the 14mm f/2.8 (not huge, but not tiny either, but an excellent lens), the 27mm f/2.8, and the 50mm f/2.
If I were in your shoes, I’d shoot the new 23mm f/2.8 and the 27mm f/2.8 for a week or two and then pick one of them to keep — they are close enough in focal length that I don’t think you’ll need both if you are concerned about weight/bulk.
The 27mm could pair well with the older 18mm f/2, while the 23mm might pair wiht the 16mm f/2.8 if you don’t want the 14mm lens....Show more →
I’m expecting the new 23/2.8 to be better than the 27/2.8 based on what I’ve read so far but you’re right that I will probably choose just one after having som experience with both. Thank you for recommending I take a look at the 50/2 as well now that I need a longer lens still. I’ll also look at the 16mm since it’s smaller as well. Thank you.
Might also consider the 14mm /2.8 that you use since I really like 21mm full frame focal length. Does that lens have a clutch on it?
swldstn wrote:
Might also consider the 14mm /2.8 that you use since I really like 21mm full frame focal length. Does that lens have a clutch on it?
For me, 14mm is a good wide focal length on the XT5 for street and travel photography.
The lens has an unusual focus feature for Fujifilm lenses. The front section of the barrel slides forward and backwards. Slide one direction and it will AF if your camera is set up to do so. Slide it the other direction and it switches to MF and shows an old-school distance scale on the barrel, along with DOF estimates. (I wouldn't trust those too much though.)
Just about all Fujifilm lenses can be switched between AF and MF using the C/S/M switch on the camera body — quickly moving between the two AF modes (continuous and single) and manual focus. But the 14mm layers its extra manual control on top of that.
gdanmitchell wrote:
The lens has an unusual focus feature for Fujifilm lenses. The front section of the barrel slides forward and backwards. Slide one direction and it will AF if your camera is set up to do so. Slide it the other direction and it switches to MF and shows an old-school distance scale on the barrel, along with DOF estimates. (I wouldn't trust those too much though.)
AKA/frequently-referred-to as a focus ring "clutch."
Jack Flesher wrote:
AKA/frequently-referred-to as a focus ring "clutch."
Thank you Jack. Yes that has been in the past called a “clutch”. Basically a mechanical device that lets you shift gears for Manual to Automatic focusing in this case.
swldstn wrote:
Thank you Jack. Yes that has been in the past called a “clutch”. Basically a mechanical device that lets you shift gears for Manual to Automatic focusing in this case.
It's one of the standout features of most of the Olympus/OM Systems Pro lenses. It's something I rarely use, but it can be handy.
gdanmitchell wrote:
The Fujifilm f/2 50mm lens is a great option that is quite small for what it does.
My travel/street kit consists of the 14mm f/2.8 (not huge, but not tiny either, but an excellent lens), the 27mm f/2.8, and the 50mm f/2.
If I were in your shoes, I’d shoot the new 23mm f/2.8 and the 27mm f/2.8 for a week or two and then pick one of them to keep — they are close enough in focal length that I don’t think you’ll need both if you are concerned about weight/bulk.
The 27mm could pair well with the older 18mm f/2, while the 23mm might pair with the 16mm f/2.8 if you don’t want the 14mm lens....Show more →
I have my 50mm f/2 listed for sale, but I am debating. I picked up a Leica D-Lux 8, and it plus the X-E5 with one or two of my 18/23/35 would cover a good range in more ways than one.
I will get something wide, ideally it would be a 10-12mm prime with the classic aperture ring. But of the current options, it will probably be the Sigma 10-18mm.
gdanmitchell wrote:
For me, 14mm is a good wide focal length on the XT5 for street and travel photography.
The lens has an unusual focus feature for Fujifilm lenses. The front section of the barrel slides forward and backwards. Slide one direction and it will AF if your camera is set up to do so. Slide it the other direction and it switches to MF and shows an old-school distance scale on the barrel, along with DOF estimates. (I wouldn't trust those too much though.)
Just about all Fujifilm lenses can be switched between AF and MF using the C/S/M switch on the camera body — quickly moving between the two AF modes (continuous and single) and manual focus. But the 14mm layers its extra manual control on top of that....Show more →
14 is a wonderful lens, and I do use the 'clutch' yo switch to MF quite a lot, for scale focus shots. The clutch system is also on my Tokina 12-24 zoom for Nikon, and that goes back quite a while.
The 14 is a fine lens. My issue with it was that for travel I often wanted wider or tighter, so a zoom was more useful. I appreciate the ethos of using primes and do carry a few. But my main travel lenses are zooms. The Tamron 11-20/2.8 is only a bit larger than the 14, and might be lighter; it has become my wide “prime” choice. Optically it’s every bit as good and possibly better than the Fuji. It does not have an aperture ring, so if that’s a must for you, then take a look at the Fuji 10-24. While only an f4 lens, it’s good wide open and has an impressive focal range. It’s not huge by any measure; and probably not notably different than the 14 prime in the bag or on the camera. My .02
