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Donzo98 wrote:
I went down this road too.

I had a Sony A7C, Panasonic LX100 II, Sony RX100 V and Canon GX 7 all at different times.

I sold them all, and now I use an IPhone when I want to carry something pocketable. The phone is shockingly good. You can shoot RAW, and edit in LR, like you would with a “real”camera.

For anything more serious, I had my Sony A1 (now sold) and current A1II and lenses.

It bothered me to have a 6500.00 camera, and use something less good. For that kind of money, it should be used as much humanly
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Speaking personally, I don’t view using different.. lesser cameras as using a camera that is less good, but rather using a camera that is more appropriate given the circumstances and environment. For me, I sold all of my long glass when I sold my A9, A7Riv and A7Rv. What I shoot now is better served by different and sometimes more niche cameras. I just purchased a Domke Lead Pouch for alerting TSA to my desire to have my film hand inspected. I’m feeling a bit of what you mentioned above, because it does feel questionable leaving some of the most capable digital cameras behind and taking one twenty and another forty year old 645 rangefinders in their place. This seem especially crazy in that I haven’t shot much film in recent years, but I want to up the chance for failure when I don’t know what I’m doing. I thought that I had maintained shooting (film) discipline because I never (well the exception is the X2D..but that is the WiFi) need a second battery, but now that I’m shooting film again, I realize that I was lying to myself. I’ve replaced discipline and creativity with the freedoms of GBs of storage.



Jun 30, 2025 at 09:37 PM
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p.2 #2 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


You might like to consider the Olympus Pen series. They are small and have many small interchangeable lenses available so are very versatile.


Jun 30, 2025 at 10:48 PM
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p.2 #3 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


bwcolor wrote:
Speaking personally, I don’t view using different.. lesser cameras as using a camera that is less good, but rather using a camera that is more appropriate given the circumstances and environment. For me, I sold all of my long glass when I sold my A9, A7Riv and A7Rv. What I shoot now is better served by different and sometimes more niche cameras. I just purchased a Domke Lead Pouch for alerting TSA to my desire to have my film hand inspected. I’m feeling a bit of what you mentioned above, because it does feel questionable leaving some of the most
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Discipline is on you…not the tool you use.



Jun 30, 2025 at 11:20 PM
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chez wrote:
Discipline is on you…not the tool you use.

Absolutely..



Jun 30, 2025 at 11:37 PM
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p.2 #5 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


Buy her a Leica Q3 and when she tires of it she'll give it back to you.


Jul 01, 2025 at 07:56 AM
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p.2 #6 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


The Leica Q3 while absolutely incredible, is not what I’d call pocketable. It’s basically a $6000 lens connected to a free camera.

Having considered this pocketable equipment equation myself with that very lens, AND since the OP posted this in the Fuji forum, my reco is the new XE5 with the Viltrox 28 body cap lens. The XE5 because it’s currently the only small body Fuji with IBIS, and at a fixed f4.5, the little Viltrox will need it for nighttime travel use — where I see myself wanting it most.

Another option is the new half frame Fuji even though it’s more a toy. It has its own built in lens so no Viltrox option, but is already gaining a cult-like popularity, and being used alongside an Instax printer.

Finally the other, and frankly most logical solution, especially if one already has a good cell phone, is one of the camera handle adapters for specific cell phones. This is probably the best truly “pocketable” solution around, and the latest top tier cell phones have excellent photographic capabilities. Also the least expensive option, I see this being used more than any of the others.



Jul 01, 2025 at 08:27 AM
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p.2 #7 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


Robin Smith wrote:
You might like to consider the Olympus Pen series. They are small and have many small interchangeable lenses available so are very versatile.



this or older sony nex lines



Jul 01, 2025 at 11:23 AM
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p.2 #8 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


Jack Flesher wrote:
The Leica Q3 while absolutely incredible, is not what I’d call pocketable. It’s basically a $6000 lens connected to a free camera.

Having considered this pocketable equipment equation myself with that very lens, AND since the OP posted this in the Fuji forum, my reco is the new XE5 with the Viltrox 28 body cap lens. The XE5 because it’s currently the only small body Fuji with IBIS, and at a fixed f4.5, the little Viltrox will need it for nighttime travel use — where I see myself wanting it most.

Another option is the new half frame Fuji
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True, my comment was a TIC approach to acquiring a Q3.



Jul 01, 2025 at 11:58 AM
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p.2 #9 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


Yes, Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5 is cheap, a used one around $70~80.
But IMO is waste money because of only one aperture setting .

I rather pay little bit more to get TTArtisan , Samyang etc....



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p.2 #10 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


Canon G1x mk3 is what I use for ‘pocket’ - although it doesn’t really fit into pants. Does have a viewfinder.

G7x mk2(3?) is more pocketable. No viewfinder.




Jul 04, 2025 at 01:49 PM
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p.2 #11 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


Sigma BF and FP are very compact and can be provided with some very small lenses.


Jul 04, 2025 at 03:41 PM
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p.2 #12 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


Gx85 with 20mm or 12-32 kit lens is pretty compact for ICL. Surprised she doesn’t want an X100VI lol


Jul 07, 2025 at 10:29 PM
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p.2 #13 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


Maybe a bit late, but just want to mention a specific thing (for beginners) that I think is a unique advantage of some Fuji cameras. First, you're probably already familiar with how (many of them) feature marked dials on the cameras and lenses. This really useful as a beginner learning the exposure triangle as you can focus on that, instead of trying to grok the confusing PASM mode stuff. That said, many beginners might also prefer to be able to simply just take a damn photo without worrying. This is where Fuji bodies with the dedicated switch comes in. Being to just flick this on is brilliant and easily allows beginners to flow between focusing on composition and letting the camera handle things, yet trying to be more manual is still very easily accessible.

AFAIK the following Fuji bodies features this wonderful switch:

- X-T50
- X-T30 / X-T30 II
- X-T20
- X-E3
- X70

I've gotten the X-T20 for someone and it worked out really well and I think this switch was part of it.



Jul 08, 2025 at 03:16 AM
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zi464 wrote:
Yes, Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5 is cheap, a used one around $70~80.
But IMO is waste money because of only one aperture setting .

I rather pay little bit more to get TTArtisan , Samyang etc....


Do they have AF?



Jul 08, 2025 at 11:17 AM
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fotografur wrote:
Do they have AF?


No. IMHO, this new Viltrox "experimental" pancake is brilliant -- a reasonable, all-around aperture with probably super fast AF for the short stroke involved. Coupled with the XM5, no IBIS but shirt-pocket tiny. Coupled with the XE5, IBIS and a little bigger.

For the OP, other option could well be the half-frame. Not super tiny, but already set with lens in a people-friendly format orientation.



Jul 08, 2025 at 11:25 AM
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p.2 #16 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


fotografur wrote:
Do they have AF?


TTArtisan 27mm not as tiny as Vitrox but for $150 you could get F2.8 - F16

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1732752-REG/ttartisan_af2728_x_b_af_c27mm_f_2_8_lens.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&store=420&lsft=BI%3A6879&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=13535675462&gbraid=0AAAAAD7yMh1JG1_zkbRXPwsM45tuYJ_vT&gclid=CjwKCAjwg7PDBhBxEiwAf1CVu_kPe3cdCY_Cvge7m3awvvKfR34o5ZgYKUZVyFuEY805oM5TF6YHjxoC7KkQAvD_BwE

https://www.amazon.com/TTArtisan-Full-Frame-Large-Aperture-Mount-Cameras/dp/B0C3M2SJNV/ref=asc_df_B0C3M2SJNV?mcid=51b10a67e0c0310d9acad2bf72780718&hvocijid=11022413142303376093-B0C3M2SJNV-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11022413142303376093&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026942&hvtargid=pla-2281435178138&th=1


Samyang not tiny and budget.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1670171-REG/samyang_syio12af_fx_12mm_f_2_0_af_lens.html


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1413350/?smpm=bu_uar&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17597921968&gbraid=0AAAAAD7yMh258naFBjxDxKOyKoPTT8Hlk&gclid=CjwKCAjwg7PDBhBxEiwAf1CVu8fhqzDKvm_7UvQgfpfroTliF3bhYAjmFFcGk33TjJHt8MZdrf1wyBoC5t8QAvD_BwE

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Jul 08, 2025 at 11:44 AM
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p.2 #17 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


Jack Flesher wrote:
No. IMHO, this new Viltrox "experimental" pancake is brilliant -- a reasonable, all-around aperture with probably super fast AF for the short stroke involved. Coupled with the XM5, no IBIS but shirt-pocket tiny. Coupled with the XE5, IBIS and a little bigger.

For the OP, other option could well be the half-frame. Not super tiny, but already set with lens in a people-friendly format orientation.


Both TTArtisan and Samyang have AF but not tiny as Viltrox.
Size of TTArtisan 27mm is still consider as pancake with F2.8 - F16



Jul 08, 2025 at 11:49 AM
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p.2 #18 · Finding a Pocketable Camera & Viltrox AF 28mm f/4.5


zi464 wrote:
TTArtisan 27mm not as tiny as Vitrox but for $150 you could get F2.8 - F16

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1732752-REG/ttartisan_af2728_x_b_af_c27mm_f_2_8_lens.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&store=420&lsft=BI%3A6879&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=13535675462&gbraid=0AAAAAD7yMh1JG1_zkbRXPwsM45tuYJ_vT&gclid=CjwKCAjwg7PDBhBxEiwAf1CVu_kPe3cdCY_Cvge7m3awvvKfR34o5ZgYKUZVyFuEY805oM5TF6YHjxoC7KkQAvD_BwE

https://www.amazon.com/TTArtisan-Full-Frame-Large-Aperture-Mount-Cameras/dp/B0C3M2SJNV/ref=asc_df_B0C3M2SJNV?mcid=51b10a67e0c0310d9acad2bf72780718&hvocijid=11022413142303376093-B0C3M2SJNV-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11022413142303376093&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026942&hvtargid=pla-2281435178138&th=1

Samyang not tiny and budget.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1670171-REG/samyang_syio12af_fx_12mm_f_2_0_af_lens.html

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1413350/?smpm=bu_uar&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17597921968&gbraid=0AAAAAD7yMh258naFBjxDxKOyKoPTT8Hlk&gclid=CjwKCAjwg7PDBhBxEiwAf1CVu8fhqzDKvm_7UvQgfpfroTliF3bhYAjmFFcGk33TjJHt8MZdrf1wyBoC5t8QAvD_BwE


Great suggestions but I have an A7CR and the small Sigma 90mm and 17mm DG DN lenses as well as the small Sony 40mm G lens. My daughter thought they were overly large. That pretty much narrows things down.

I did pick up a Victrox 40mm which is slightly larger than the Sony G. I’m hoping that she will discover the advantages of being able to change aperture.

It was mentioned previously that a Fuji with more traditional controls are a real advantage to someone learning about photography. I completely agree. I sold all three of my X100s. I now wish that I kept the X-100v.



Jul 08, 2025 at 12:41 PM
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