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p.1 #1 · choosing a second X body


Folks,

I have a need for a second X body to go along with my X-T5 and I'm trying to figure out what body to purchase.

I have been holding out for a new X-Pro body as I have always liked having a rangefinder for casual street and urban shooting. The only thing that held me back from buying an X-Pro3 was the smaller battery since my X-T5 and GFX bodies both use the larger 235 battery. Not sure we are ever going to see and X-Pro4 and even so, I'm going to bet that it still uses the smaller battery since Fuji hasn't abandoned that smaller battery on the smaller body lines.

Part of the reason I need to get a second body is for shooting in Alaska when I'll have one body connected to the 150-600 and it'll be much too slow to be swapping lenses for a wider shot. Based on my experience doing this in the past on safaris, etc., I need to have a body bolted to the long lens and then a second for the wider shooting opportunities.

So, I know what the X-T5 brings to the table and it is my preferred camera for a few reasons, but I wanted to understand what an X-H2 can bring to the table as a preference over the X-T5. If I were going to be shooting with the 150-600 and one of these bodies, is there a reason to be choosing one over the other or do they both seemingly function similarly in terms of AF. I think the X-H2 has a larger buffer and as a slightly larger body, should balance on the 150-600 better. But, on the downside, it has a flippy screen that I detest and also uses an PASM dial and I'd prefer the traditional dials on the X-T5. The flippy screen isn't a deal-breaker, I just won't be using it much for that kind of shooting, so it'll just stay in place for the most part.

Conversely, I could go the other direction and get a used X-Pro3 and use the XT-5 for the long lens and the XPro3 for the shorter lenses when doing that kind of shooting. I'm not happy about having a second battery type to manage and I see that body as more ideal with fixed lenses, so I'm not sure it is ideal for the task but could be made to be useful in that role I believe.

I think it's a much larger stretch to be putting the X-Pro3 into action with zoom lenses and for that more general kind of shooting than using an X-H2 for the task, but this is where I'd like some feedback from people who have some experience with some/all of these bodies.

***EDIT*** (In fact, I have three fixed lenses here (16mm, 23mm, 35mm) waiting for a rangefinder body that has never materialized and I will sell them off if I don't get a rangefinder to use them with. But that would not be how I am using the body on at least some of this trip since I'll need zoom capability while on boats.)

My shooting on a trip like the one to Alaska is typical travel shooting, with some landscape, some people/urban, some architecture, and in this trip, whale watching and other super telephoto lens shooting. (In as much as Alaska has urban and architecture, but I think you get the idea). If I were going to Europe, the long lens wouldn't come along and I think it'd be a fairly easy decision to get an X-Pro3 as a second body even with dealing with the second battery type.

That said, the three options I feel I have are to purchase a second X-T5, an X-H2, or an X-Pro3...

Well-considered opinions are always appreciated.


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Jun 26, 2025 at 02:13 PM
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p.1 #2 · choosing a second X body


I went with speed vs. resolution of the stacked x-h2s vs. x-h2, mainly for wildlife here in Alaska: 40fps & pre-shot/ES raw, in good light paired with the 150-600 and 1.4x

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Jun 26, 2025 at 02:42 PM
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I got a Fuji X-T50 with the 16-50 kit lens as a backup to my X-T5. Interestingly enough, I'm shooting my X-T50 more than my X-T5.


Jun 26, 2025 at 03:03 PM
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My simple .02...

The UI controls and dials of the XH2 are significantly different from the XT4/5. I personally love the XH2 and am trying to come to grips with an XT4 I recently purchased to convert to IR -- longer story, but the UI's are so different, I just can't come to enjoy the XT4 at all and am going to be listing it soon. My only point here is you may feel the same way about the XH2... That's the downside I see with the XH2 *for you* and your situation.

The upsides are not huge. It uses a CFx and SD instead of two SD's so is faster/longer on frame speeds and buffer. IBIS is the same, sensor is the same and batteries are the same as the XT5, so there is that. The XH2 is very comfortable in the hand especially nice with larger lenses -- and this plus the slightly faster frame-rates and larger buffer may in fact be the best arguments for it over another XT5 in your situation.



Jun 26, 2025 at 04:47 PM
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Jack Flesher wrote:
My simple .02...

The UI controls and dials of the XH2 are significantly different from the XT4/5. I personally love the XH2 and am trying to come to grips with an XT4 I recently purchased to convert to IR -- longer story, but the UI's are so different, I just can't come to enjoy the XT4 at all and am going to be listing it soon. My only point here is you may feel the same way about the XH2... That's the downside I see with the XH2 *for you* and your situation.

The upsides are not huge. It uses
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Jack,

I have a GFX100s that uses a similar interface (I think it's similar), so I would probably be OK with the X-H2 interface. I did forget about the odd memory card pairing and that is another drawback to choosing that body for sure. I will want to be shooting dual card.

I don't see myself doing anything too extreme with respect to wildlife shooting and so the short bursts of the X-T5 are likely going to be sufficient.




Jun 26, 2025 at 05:29 PM
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kalani_kane wrote:
I went with speed vs. resolution of the stacked x-h2s vs. x-h2, mainly for wildlife here in Alaska: 40fps & pre-shot/ES raw, in good light paired the 150-600 with the 1.4x


I'll have to look at that, but I was thinking it is overkill for my purposes...

Does the 150-600 plus 1.4TC work well on that body? I'm betting it won't work nearly as well on the X-H2 or X-T5 since the sensor isn't as tuned for the high speed focusing.



Jun 26, 2025 at 05:31 PM
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mjm6 wrote:
Jack,

I have a GFX100s that uses a similar interface (I think it's similar), so I would probably be OK with the X-H2 interface. I did forget about the odd memory card pairing and that is another drawback to choosing that body for sure. I will want to be shooting dual card.

I don't see myself doing anything too extreme with respect to wildlife shooting and so the short bursts of the X-T5 are likely going to be sufficient.



Yes, GFX and XH2 nearly identical UI. Personally, I find the CFx card an advantage simply due to its robustness and faster I/O.



Jun 26, 2025 at 05:31 PM
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I have the Fuji 500mm, and my X-H2s is significantly more comfortable to use than my X-T5. The grip and overall size are just much better. It's much faster in focusing and overall operation, too. If I were going to Alaska with the 150-600 and wanted to attach a permanent camera, it would be the X-H2 or 2s.

Good luck and have fun.



Jun 26, 2025 at 06:21 PM
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If you have a Gfx100S and X-T5, then it really seems like a coin flip. I also use these two cams and don't find much of an issue going back and forth. The X-T5 is .25lb lighter but I had to add a grip to make it usable. I had the X-T5 and Gfx50S which shared layouts but if doing it again knowing I would have an Gfx100S, might have gone H2S. I still wish Fuji hadn't gone to a PASM style layout on Gfx.


Jun 26, 2025 at 06:44 PM
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mjm6 wrote:
I'll have to look at that, but I was thinking it is overkill for my purposes...

Does the 150-600 plus 1.4TC work well on that body? I'm betting it won't work nearly as well on the X-H2 or X-T5 since the sensor isn't as tuned for the high speed focusing.


x-h2s & 150-600 were announced together specifically for wildlife (and hybrid video, which I value equally to stills), and adding 1.4x in great light work well and remains sharp. AF has issues with false-positives mainly, but tracks subjects ok, yet gets progressively worse as lighting conditions decline if sunrise, sunset or overcast conditions are needed. I often use MF override to acquire subjects in thick brush. For distant wildlife the reach is awesome, especially as heat distortions aren't as big of an issue over cold water bodies in Alaska. Though the 1.4x can also pair with the 70-300, using it solo is my most used combo as wildlife tends to be closer, sometimes uncomfortably close, but for mountain goats, bears, whales, beluga, orca, bird-in-flight like puffins, etc. the extra 150-600 + 1.4x reach should be stellar. While 40fps raw may seem like overkill, for fast rare (once-in-a-lifetime?) action like breaches, eagle feeding, and pre-shot/ES for bird takeoffs (or glacial calving) it's exceptional. I'd recommend switching to back-button focus and disabling half-shutter press focus for pre-shot/ES since accidental shutter releases can unknowingly fill a card up instantly, and bring extra batteries since it is ultra-power hungry as it's buffering continuously. I also carry the gfx100sii & gf 500 + 1.4x and find the controls comfortably seamless to the x-h2s.



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mjm6 wrote:
Folks,

I have a need for a second X body to go along with my X-T5 and I'm trying to figure out what body to purchase.

I have been holding out for a new X-Pro body as I have always liked having a rangefinder for casual street and urban shooting. The only thing that held me back from buying an X-Pro3 was the smaller battery since my X-T5 and GFX bodies both use the larger 235 battery. Not sure we are ever going to see and X-Pro4 and even so, I'm going to bet that it still uses the smaller battery since
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One thing to consider is that the interface on the XH2 is rather different than that on your XT5. The former uses the PASM interface (like many non-fujifilm brands) while the XT5, as you know, uses the familiar knobs and dials interface. If, as you say, your main reason for having two bodies is so that you can switch rapidly between them, using two identical bodies might smooth that process a bit. (Note Jack's post above about moving between XT and XH models.)

The pluses of the XH2 are mainly two — as you note, since it has a deeper buffer it can do long bursts. (It also accommodates a faster, more expensive card, if you are really into that.) This could well be useful for some kinds of wildlife photography. (I use the XT5 to photography birds, and it works fine.) The second difference, also related to camera speed, is that the XH2 models are better equipped for video. Again, you can do video on the XT5, too.

About the XPro... I was a very enthusiastic XPro2 users for years. I did half of my photography on the thing, especially travel and street photography. At one time I held out hope for an upgraded, post-XPro3 (which did not impress me) body, but it eventually became clear that it wasn't coming. (It has now been 6 years since the XPro3 was introduced, and there is no sign that a replacement is coming in the immediate future.)

All of that is why I moved to the XT5. It turns out hhat it is actually a great street photography camera. It is roughly the same size as the XPro models, though shaped a bit differently. It has full manual controls, of course, it is reasonably fast, and when equipped with street-style lenses it works great for that subject. I'm honestly no longer interested in the XPro.

Dan

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Jun 26, 2025 at 11:07 PM
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mjm6 wrote:
Folks,

I have a need for a second X body to go along with my X-T5 and I'm trying to figure out what body to purchase.

I have been holding out for a new X-Pro body as I have always liked having a rangefinder for casual street and urban shooting. The only thing that held me back from buying an X-Pro3 was the smaller battery since my X-T5 and GFX bodies both use the larger 235 battery. Not sure we are ever going to see and X-Pro4 and even so, I'm going to bet that it still uses the smaller battery since
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I have an X-T5 and my second camera is an X-E4. When I need two cameras I may mount a longer lens on the T5 and a wide lens on the E4. The E4 is not as capable as the T5 but works fine for me and I have pre-ordered the E5. With its 40MP and IBIS it should pair very well with the T5.



Jun 27, 2025 at 11:50 AM
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I’d say XE4, XE5 (if you can get it … not out until 9/1 at the earliest) or XT50.

XE has a different battery but I don’t even use a battery charger anymore, I just charge the camera directly with USB C cable and a high wattage adapter.



Jun 27, 2025 at 12:22 PM
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mdude85 wrote:
I’d say XE4, XE5 (if you can get it … not out until 9/1 at the earliest) or XT50.

XE has a different battery but I don’t even use a battery charger anymore, I just charge the camera directly with USB C cable and a high wattage adapter.


Speaking for myself and especially while traveling and shooting a lot hand-held, IBIS is a godsend. Just sayin...



Jun 27, 2025 at 12:58 PM
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mdude85 wrote:
I’d say XE4, XE5 (if you can get it … not out until 9/1 at the earliest) or XT50.

XE has a different battery but I don’t even use a battery charger anymore, I just charge the camera directly with USB C cable and a high wattage adapter.


Not sure why you would get an XE5 as a second body for the purposes listed by our OP, especially when it would cost the same to just get a second XT5.

Jack Flesher wrote
Speaking for myself and especially while traveling and shooting a lot hand-held, IBIS is a godsend. Just sayin...


I agree. Strongly. IBIS is a frequently-useful feature with no significant downsides.



Jun 27, 2025 at 02:47 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone... There's lots to think about in all the posts.

I don't consider the battery difference to be terribly meaningful but it would be an annoyance to have to deal with them differently so if there is a good second body option that does use the other battery, I will not rule it out for that reason alone.

IBIS is probably a much bigger consideration... I feel that (while it isn't mandatory, since I somehow managed to shoot without it for 30+ years) it is a pretty large benefit for travel shooting. So much so that I feel it is an almost-must-have specification. Case in point; several years ago, I went to France with my GFX100S camera. Previously, I had a pair of GFX50R bodies, but I sold them to buy the 100S because I knew I needed IBIS for the interior architecture shooting I wanted to do and in a lot of those places, a tripod isn't permitted or isn't really very viable.

Anyway, having one body with that is really an absolute must, but I could possibly dispense with it on a second if I needed to, but in this case, I think the best options all include IBIS (except the X-PRO bodies, but I think they are out of the running).



Jun 27, 2025 at 03:26 PM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
Not sure why you would get an XE5 as a second body for the purposes listed by our OP, especially when it would cost the same to just get a second XT5.

I agree. Strongly. IBIS is a frequently-useful feature with no significant downsides.


Because the OP said he has always liked a rangefinder for casual street and urban shooting (+ for XE series), he said he likes dials as opposed to PASM setups (+ for XE series), and he said he does not like the flippy screen of the XH2 (+ for XE series).

The OP didn't mention anything about cost (but because he was contemplating an XH2, then I infer he is willing to spend at least $2k), and I figured that if the OP wanted a second XT5 body then he would already have one.

As for IBIS -- it is always great to have, but the OP said he would put a wider lens on his 2nd body (either 16 or 23, but up to 35), in which case, there is some leeway with slower shutter speed shooting, and one could just bump up the ISO if one thought things were getting a little shaky. The OP also made no mention, in the original post, of IBIS at all. Even so, the XT50 and XE5 both have it.



Jun 27, 2025 at 05:08 PM
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mjm6 wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback everyone... There's lots to think about in all the posts.

I don't consider the battery difference to be terribly meaningful but it would be an annoyance to have to deal with them differently so if there is a good second body option that does use the other battery, I will not rule it out for that reason alone.

IBIS is probably a much bigger consideration... I feel that (while it isn't mandatory, since I somehow managed to shoot without it for 30+ years) it is a pretty large benefit for travel shooting. So much so that I
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I overlooked the battery issue. I really doubt you would want two systems with different batteries… unless the value of the smaller body is SO important to you that it trumps that.

I’m also with you (obviously) on the IBIS question. I shot without it for literally decades. I also lived for decades without computers, the internet, digital cameras, led lighting, smart phones, drip irrigation systems, seat belts, waterproof/breathable fabrics, and many other things that make my life better. I _could_ “live without” those things, for sure, but why choose to when they are available and make things generally better? ;-)

gdanmitchell wrote

Not sure why you would get an XE5 as a second body for the purposes listed by our OP, especially when it would cost the same to just get a second XT5.


mdude85 wrote:
Because the OP said...
(abbreviated quote — see original above.)

All of those other cameras you mention in your reply have their appeal. I know the OP mentioned the rangefinder-style body (specifically the XPro), but I think he might well want to consider whether the perceived value of that trumps the downsides of the current options that provide it.

As pointed out above, the XE5 (which has many positive features for some potential users) requires a different battery (and different charger) than his existing XT5. There could be reasons for using two Fujifilm x-trans systems with different batteries, but there are distinct advantages to having systems with the same batteries and chargers, too.

I’m not sure how much (or what kind of) street photography the OP does, but I wanted to share my extensive experience with using the XT5 for that purpose… and my conclusion that the XT5 makes an excellent street/travel camera. (There’s a separate thread on FM right now asking about whether XPro users favor the OVF or the EVF, and it is interesting to see how many default to the EVF. I know that became my preference over time with the XPro, and my interest in the hybrid viewfinder evaporated. I don’t miss it at all now that I use the XT5)

I’ll also point out that the specific rangefinder-style camera that the OP mentioned was the XPro, not the XE. As you perhaps know, the XPro and the XT5 are roughly the same size, and both have full manual controls, and high-end features like double card slots. (The XE comes up at least a little short here by comparison.)

Perhaps more to the point, the OP specifically mentioned shooting the two cameras side-by-side with different lenses. While one can do that with different cameras and even brands (I do), if one has chosen to use the same brand for both there are reasons to use two copies of the same body in the context he describes. (Admittedly, there can also be other reasons to use different bodies — for example, if one is, say, primarily a using one camera for something like bird photography and the other is primarily for vacation snaps. or perhaps street.)

YMMV.




Jun 27, 2025 at 05:31 PM
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Dan pretty much summarizes it well as I think he always does, even though I don't always agree with his opinions...

My thought initially was "get another X-T5 so there aren't any issues when switching". I actually used to do that back in my photojournalism days. I had one on the super-telephoto lens and a second with a shorter focal length that depended on the circumstances (like a 300mm and an 85mm when shooting basketball, or a 400mm and the 85mm when doing football).

I also had a third body, but it was different, so I didn't normally use that in the quick-swap situations because the layout was different. In my example, I'm referring to Canon NewF-1 bodies and a later T-90 which had far superior flash capabilities.

But that gets to why I am pondering it. A second body can be a good compliment to the first if it has different capabilities or strengths so you can favor one over the other depending on the shooting conditions. At this point, though, I'm not seeing compelling enough differences in capabilities that would move me off the X-T5 and the comfort of only having one interface to manage. But that's exactly the information I was hoping I'd learn one way or the other about the options, so this is all good so far.

Just to clarify, I have zoom lenses for the shorter focal length option, a 10-24, 16-80, and a 55-200 so I'll be using one of those to compliment the 150-600. The fixed lenses were intended for an X-Pro body because they are small and wouldn't block the OVF, but as it's seemingly clear Fuji is abandoning the traditional styling and function of the cameras (moving to PASM, maybe not making an X-Pro, etc.), it's becoming seemingly clear that I need to just abandon my desire for a rangefinder and just go with the flow.

That said, I feel like Fuji moving to PASM and if they EVER decide to stop putting aperture rings on the lenses... I'll be doing a hard-think about whether I'll continue with them. They are chipping away at the reasons I moved to Fujifilm from Sony in the first place...



Jun 27, 2025 at 06:49 PM
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One note, I have a Watson 2-battery charger that I use a lot when travelling, and it would be easy enough to get a second set of battery adapters to allow me to charge both types on the same charger at the same time. So that isn't a big deal... I've been very happy with the Watson chargers (started with them when I had Sony gear).

If the new X-E5 were out, I think I might possibly go for that, but the X-E4 doesn't have IBIS and is considerably more limited in some ways, so I don't see that as a viable option. I previously had the GFX50R camera which appears to be very similar to the X-E4 design, so it wouldn't be a big change for me. I liked that body a lot, but needed IBIS for travel shooting.




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