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Hi,
Thank you for your messages : )!!!
rscheffler wrote:
Right here on this board is a great resource: Fred's tests of pretty much all of these lenses.
In a nutshell, from Voigtlander at 28mm you span f/1.5 to f/2.8. IIRC, these are all pretty consistently similar lenses - very good overall sharpness, contrast, etc. There will also be a 28/2 APO coming in the near future. You just decide on how much speed you need, whether size and weight are considerations, etc.
Maybe also browse the reviews here: https://phillipreeve.net/blog/lenses/voigtlander/
Yes, some months ago, I was able to see Fred's reviews for the 28mm Ultron and the 28mm Color-Skopar. Those two lenses are amazing! From the reviews, I don't know why, but between those two I started to lean more towards the Color-Skopar, when the Color-Skopar, seems to me, is generally the less regarded of the two lenses.
I would like to see a review for the 28mm Apo-Lanthar. As soon as Fred reviews it, I'll take a look at it to have an idea of this lens in general.
I had not seen Philli Preeve's reviews. Lately, I stumbled upon Jack Takahashi's review of the 28mm Nokton. I liked his review. I'll also start to read Philli's reviews.
Here is a link to Takahashi: https://jacktaka.com/voigtlander-28mm-f15
retrofocus wrote:
I personally find 35 mm a great all-rounder small wide angle lens on my M cameras. I also own 28 mm based M lenses but use them less. One trap to get easily stuck in is to strive for the fastest lens - IMO it is most of the time not necessary to have a wider lens faster than f/2.0 especially when rarely using it in low light conditions - the lens only gets heavier and sometimes bulkier. IMO the best compromise regarding lens speed is between f/2.0 and f/2.8 with rangefinder usage. I became a fan of the more affordable but unfortunately no longer made Leica 35/2.4 ASPH Summarit-M lens. ...Show more →
Yes, I have seen that, mainly in some very luminous rangefinder lenses from Leica. Also in some Voigtländer lenses, like the Apo-Lanthars, in their 35mm. and 50mm. versions. That's why I would like to take a closer look at the 'compactness' of the 28mm. Apo-Lanthar when it comes out. Otherwise, due to their more compact price and price, the Ultron and Color-Skopar, are more attractive.
Yes, the Summarits, in focal lengths of 35, 50, and 75mm. are very nice. Compact and their price is also more affordable. Really a shame that they stopped making them. I hope they make them again some day. I liked both their f/2.4 and f/2.5 versions.
nehemiahphoto wrote:
I agree with this entirely. And I ended up with a CV 35/2 ultron for the same reasons. I purchased one at launch and have been using it pretty consistently through throughout. Tried a couple different copies, but ended up liking v1
Yes, as soon as I get the lens, it will almost be glued to the camera : )!!! I'll be using most of the time!
philip_pj wrote:
The light cine world is going through this lens speed issue, also. Even in the mainstream high end, the fast lenses are really highly valued, along with close focus. The makers have, at long last, rediscovered the long venerated 28mm focal length as the entry level wide lens angle of view.
The CV 28/1.5 weighs 250 grams (type I). Let me put the fast wide angle case to you, despite knowing nothing of what you might intend to use it for. All things being equal enough - weight, bulk, cost - you have one to two precious stops more available to you, with no loss in mid and small aperture performance. Done well, you have two lenses in one. All CV's 28s are of similar complexity, all use small filters.
And the bonus is not merely a little more DOF control. You get an entirely new look, by design because all f1.5 lenses are made for wide open use. 28s have a particular view on the world that lends itself to fast max apertures because they arrange the seen objects in image space more effectively than 35mm lenses, yet they do not convey that stereotypical wide angle AOV, which is harder to work with.
And it is a look not seen by any but very cashed up users in the recent past, within the M ecosystem. Most 28 users ended up associating 28s with landscapes and light urban use only.
The combination of progressive bokeh and high vignette, and shooting subjects at longer working distances..this is alluring and can be addictive, for say, city streets and people - the arty look if you will. The best part is that 28s are easy to produce to a high standard of performance. It's a universal focal length, used in many fixed lens cameras. 35s and 40s encroach on 50mm, in this context above. 28s can also be used ~a stop wider for the same DOF as a 35mm. It is such a useful focal length that many lens producers did not make any of them for many years. Now they are everywhere....Show more →
About a bit over a month, B&H was out of stock of the Ultron and the Color-Skopar in 28mm. focal length. So, I started to look at what they had in stock, and it was the Nokton 28mm. f/1.5 lens. I started to look for information about it and photos made with it. It is a very nice lens. The pictures made with it, one can see some in Takahashi's link, (above), and in the ones from internet searches, and one will see that this lens has as much muscle as the Ultron and the Color-Skopar, and perhaps a bit more.
Yes, in spite that it costs more than the Ultron and the Color-Skopar, I am considering it.
Thank you again for all your messages : )!!!
Edited on Jun 27, 2025 at 09:44 PM · View previous versions
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