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p.1 #1 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


So this was my second try at photographing the elusive-to-the-northern-hemisphere comet, as my previous attempt 6 days prior was foiled by clouds just as true night set in. I returned after 5 days of waiting out the first winter-ish storm, and was rewarded by moderate temps, clear skies and a very transparent atmosphere!

Multiple orbital shells (43 and 53° inclinations) of the Starlink satellite constellation are shown converging at a point directly above the sun, and flare brightly for a short period when the sun is at the optimal declination below the horizon. Captured on 10/21/24 from the Hurrah Pass area west of Moab, UT, this was my first quality time with rapidly-disappearing Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas without the dratted full moon in the sky.

The image is slightly cropped from the full 139x38" panorama (~220° wide), the 25 images for which were captured immediately prior to the onset of the satellite flaring. Approximately 40 minutes of flaring was composited onto the panorama image captured immediately prior to the onset of flaring. The handful of brightest flares on this night slightly exceeded the brightness of Jupiter, and occurred anywhere from 5 to 20+ seconds in duration; it's actually quite a spectacle to watch through binoculars, kind of like a 'slow-speed meteor shower' where you don't have to wonder where the streaks of light will fall!

Capture details:

  1. Canon R5
  2. Sigma 40mm/1.4 Art
  3. 10s, f/2, ISO 1600 (sky, 14 images)
  4. 60s, f/1.8, ISO 1600 (foreground, 11 images)
  5. 13s, f/2.2, ISO 1600 (flares, 211 images)

For more details on both the capture and the flaring phenomenon, check out this blog post if you are interested:

https://catchingtime.com/10-21-24-a-milkshake-a-snowball-and-some-poprocks/

Cheers,

Jeff

PS: As an aside, I know many people are becoming horrified by the change in the night skies over the last 5+ years, although its primary negative effect is currently upon radio astronomy. For casual observers, the night sky is not being 'ruined' for stargazing; yes, you will see satellites, most around the deeper twilight interval (and yes, night photographers will often capture them in images). I've recently started working with scientists from the IAU Centre for the Protection of the Dark and Quiet Sky as this flaring phenomenon is little documented, to date (at least in any meaningfully scientific way). If you are interested in what's going on with our night skies, I'd encourage you to check out these two organizations, the latter of which you may be familiar with:

https://cps.iau.org/about/
https://darksky.org

[EDIT: typo and formatting]




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Comet T-A and Starlink 43 and 53° Satellite flaring, Hurrah Pass, UT [10/21/24]

  [Canon EOS R5]    f/2.0    10s    1600 ISO  



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Nov 09, 2024 at 02:15 PM
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p.1 #2 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


Just for clarity, here is a crop from the flare region:




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Nov 09, 2024 at 02:16 PM
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p.1 #3 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


Extremely beautiful, well seen, well photographed!
#1 is a winner!!!
Dan



Nov 09, 2024 at 02:53 PM
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p.1 #4 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


Amazing work Jeff. As usual.


Nov 09, 2024 at 04:29 PM
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p.1 #5 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


Well done, sir.


Nov 09, 2024 at 06:52 PM
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p.1 #6 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


Well done! A shame about the satelittes.


Nov 09, 2024 at 08:56 PM
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p.1 #7 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


That flaring is actually really cool in an abstract art manner. Another illustration/interpretation of human influence on the natural landscape.

The Earth Shadow photo on the blog is very interesting. Anyway, I can appreciate that this makes night sky photography that much more difficult.



Nov 09, 2024 at 09:47 PM
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p.1 #8 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


This is gorgeous Jeff !
Douglas



Nov 10, 2024 at 06:47 AM
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p.1 #9 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


Beautifully captured and an amazing image as a result of all your efforts.

Derek



Nov 10, 2024 at 07:46 AM
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p.1 #10 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


Danpbphoto wrote:
Extremely beautiful, well seen, well photographed!
#1 is a winner!!!
Dan


Thanks, Dan, got lucky with the airglow, too.



Nov 10, 2024 at 08:54 AM
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p.1 #11 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


stanj wrote:
Amazing work Jeff. As usual.


Appreciate that Stan! Been awhile for me, it was quite a long season of shooting...



Nov 10, 2024 at 08:56 AM
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p.1 #12 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


jforkner wrote:
Well done, sir.


Thanks! You know what they say: location, location, location, though in this case other factors certainly came into play.



Nov 10, 2024 at 08:58 AM
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p.1 #13 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


rscheffler wrote:
That flaring is actually really cool in an abstract art manner. Another illustration/interpretation of human influence on the natural landscape.

The Earth Shadow photo on the blog is very interesting. Anyway, I can appreciate that this makes night sky photography that much more difficult.


Thanks for checking it out, Ron. "Earth Shadow" became possible once I understood the basic geometry of what is causing the flares, though on any given night I never know exactly what I'm going to get. The night after this was a perfect example, as I it was only 24 hours later (sun declination-wise), and I was at the same latitude, but 50+ miles west... slightly but meaningfully different result.

Definitely a lot of work, but ultimately rewarding. I really could use a sherpa for the field, and a post-processing tech once I get back to the office!



Nov 10, 2024 at 09:04 AM
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p.1 #14 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


douter wrote:
This is gorgeous Jeff !
Douglas


Thanks, Douglas!

deke4774 wrote:
Beautifully captured and an amazing image as a result of all your efforts.

Derek


Appreciate it Derek. My wife thinks I'm crazy...



Nov 10, 2024 at 09:06 AM
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p.1 #15 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


pbraymond wrote:
Well done! A shame about the satelittes.


Shame about which aspect, the effect upon the image, or how they affect the night skies?



Nov 10, 2024 at 09:10 AM
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p.1 #16 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


I had a feeling it was starlink, I caught it my shot too. I love your composition.


Nov 10, 2024 at 11:24 AM
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p.1 #17 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


Jeff wrote:
Shame about which aspect, the effect upon the image, or how they affect the night skies?


Both. But selfishly, primarily the way it impacts night shots to me as a photographer.



Nov 10, 2024 at 03:08 PM
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p.1 #18 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


Awesome!


Nov 13, 2024 at 10:06 PM
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p.1 #19 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


I heard a few weeks ago that Elon is now coating the starlinks with a non-reflective material to reduce or eliminate the contamination of our night skies.
A consolation for the constellations if you will.
I believe they (Starlink) only have a 5 year life span so perhaps in another 5 years images such as these will become a thing of the past.
And if we're really lucky, all future satellites from other agencies will also follow suit.



Nov 14, 2024 at 10:20 AM
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p.1 #20 · Comet Tsuchinsan-Atlas and Starlink Satellite Flares, Hurrah Pass, UT


lighthound wrote:
I heard a few weeks ago that Elon is now coating the starlinks with a non-reflective material to reduce or eliminate the contamination of our night skies.
A consolation for the constellations if you will.
I believe they (Starlink) only have a 5 year life span so perhaps in another 5 years images such as these will become a thing of the past.
And if we're really lucky, all future satellites from other agencies will also follow suit.


The dielectric mirror coating on the underside of Starlink satellites are designed primarily to reduce brightness during typical overhead 'transits', and does little to mitigate the specular reflections that occur during the dusk/dawn flare cycles low over the horizon (as shown in my image). If you've ever seen a blue-colored satellite go overhead just after twilight (from mid-latitudes, e.g. ~40-ish North), these are the new Starlink v2 Mini spacecraft with the 'special' dielectric coating. They still can appear very bright, though less so (see screengrab, below).

And, Starlink do indeed have a 5-ish year lifespan (but knowing SpaceX, they'll go substantially longer). This really only means they will be replaced every 5+ years. I doubt China will care much about these issues, but Amazon-Kuiper has expressed interest in the measures, suggesting they may try to implement similar mitigations. Most of this is moot, as no matter what, the night sky is going to continue to become increasingly busy, SpaceX or not. They were just first... and fastest.







Starlink v2 Mini, blue color vs 'normal'




Nov 25, 2024 at 07:48 PM





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