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Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review

  
 
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p.30 #1 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


As someone who has to live with copycats with my own business, I get the irony of being interested in getting this particular lens. I’m not looking for a cheap Summilux 50mm, but the lighter, more bubbly rendering.

However, when crticism drifts into sweeping statements about exploitative labour, that I don't believe have been made against Thypoch, it gives off an air of exceptionalism that people understandably tire of.

The US has been involved for a long time in actions harming countless lives, often directly for the benefit of corporations, as well as indirectly but significantly through protecting affordability. 30% of the worlds oil supply is in Venezuela, Nigeria and Iran - and Sudan finalised Russian nuclear submarine capacity at port Sudan one month prior to their grotesque civil war.

Even if the intention is to pressure positive change, to protect companies you appreciate - and not to grandstand, double-standards can come across poorly to people accustomed to it. The connection may not be as obvious when it's not talked about.

But biases are natural, so tolerating the criticsm from others and doing something about the things your own let slide is a way forward. You see the changes to labour conditions improve in the middle-east after media pressure and calls to boycott the last world cup.

I doubt it would stop a battle in the cycle of empires though. And usually labour conditions improve when the country can afford it -- another of those indirect benefits.


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Anyway, if I can see a shot on Sony wide-open or at f2 where the eyes are clearly in-focus without squinting when the person isn't centered and sharpness hasn't been set to 80 in lightroom, I will pick this up like the no-good-hypocrite I am. Soft aperture clicks and all.

Bastian said in his review that at portrait distance (1.4m):

"At these distances the Simera 50mm 1.4 shows a good performance and again the differences between using it on a Leica camera or a Sony camera are not that huge." - https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-thypoch-simera-50mm-1-4/

And maybe it's what contributes to the look (?) but it's just been one too many times of assuming missed focus, and I want it for people.
So I would love to see more to confirm it's tolerable for my preferences if people would graciously continue to share those I'm sure plenty would greatly appreciate it.

There's barely anything on flickr ... and youtube well, it has issues. This is the place to be really.

But it's getting close to a point where people who like the lenses, or their results, will be put off from posting and likewise with the folks who have criticisms.

It doesn't really matter why. Just don't like taking too big a leap off faith and I think plenty rely substantially on these threads and the contributions here.



Nov 20, 2025 at 08:06 AM
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p.30 #2 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Not sure if these pics help, because you’re obviously looking for a human subject, but this is what I’ve got
On YouTube see the videos I posted earlier by macro Marvin „the best affordable Leica summilux“ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gn3ZPUlux24&pp=
and Bokeh therapy with Jack Wang „creating a new legacy“ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d_u49h_MeMw&pp=

Remember that the files uploaded to FM are jpeg with a file size limit of 1.4MB (≈1500pixel wide) - so you won’t be able to post process them (work with presets or whatnot) as you would be able to with the full RAW file (which is 50 MB on a 24 mpix sensor and 85mb on a 42mpix sensor)

11:11 EST - Carpe diem




  ILCE-7M3    ---- lens    1/8000s    800 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7M3    ---- lens    1/640s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/800s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Nov 20, 2025 at 11:12 AM
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p.30 #3 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Thank you HappyDan, you've been contributing tonnes in this thread and I really appreciate it. There actually isn't all that much else to go on with Sony.

I remember I read a comment about images uploaded here appear a little softer sometimes for some reason, I don't know the validity of that.
If it all possible, could you upload that middle example to https://postimg.cc/ for my sake.
You can copy & paste the "direct link" here and it will show up.

It looks like focus was nailed, just want to get a good idea of the bite on the eye.



Nov 20, 2025 at 11:38 AM
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p.30 #4 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


I would send it to you in a DM
but I’ve been so radical with deleting old files earlier today that I can’t find the original RAW file
sry



Nov 20, 2025 at 11:49 AM
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p.30 #5 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


No worries, and thank you, the sale is going on for a while yet. Even a decent sized jpg is completley fine if we can try that host just for one example like that.


Nov 20, 2025 at 12:09 PM
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p.30 #6 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Here is the original lens from Alpa that Thypoch drew inspiration from when recreating the distance scale on the Simera line:












Dec 12, 2025 at 06:02 PM
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p.30 #7 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Feels like sometimes “less” is “more”. I can see this zone focus effect make sense on wide angle lenses such as the 28 or 21, but on the 35, 50 and especially 75mm it is so very shallow, that its more of strict hommage rather than practicality imo.

Reminds me of the old lenses that were full of distance markings because those were actually used back in the analog days.



Dec 12, 2025 at 07:37 PM
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p.30 #8 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Happydan wrote:
Feels like sometimes “less” is “more”. I can see this zone focus effect make sense on wide angle lenses such as the 28 or 21, but on the 35, 50 and especially 75mm it is so very shallow, that its more of strict hommage rather than practicality imo.

Reminds me of the old lenses that were full of distance markings because those were actually used back in the analog days.


I really appreciated the dotted distance scale when shooting 21, 28, and 35mm lenses, but I agree that beyond 50mm it starts to lose its usefulness, much like a traditional distance scale. That said, I think it was a good decision to keep the layout consistent across all lenses in the Simera line.



Dec 21, 2025 at 10:06 AM
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p.30 #9 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
Here is the original lens from Alpa that Thypoch drew inspiration from when recreating the distance scale on the Simera line:


That's a very good looking but also strange version Fred. It obviously has been converted to M-mount! Some surgery is needed for that as the original Kern shutter release close to the lens mount is gone. So, not really the original. The odd DOF scale is Kern/ALPA original though.

The predecessor was the Kern Switar for ALPA 50/1.8. The Kern Macro Switar 50/1.9 for ALPA was a redesigned (one element added) and improved version so watch out for the lens speed if interested in buying one. Go for the f/1.9 version.
I remember it had some problem with flare. The focusing ring was also interesting, for macro (close-up at least) focusing you had to turn it several full turns. Except for the flare problem I liked the lens. Very little CA. Expensive stuff.



Dec 21, 2025 at 10:47 AM
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p.30 #10 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Jonas B wrote:
That's a very good looking but also strange version Fred. It obviously has been converted to M-mount! Some surgery is needed for that as the original Kern shutter release close to the lens mount is gone. So, not really the original. The odd DOF scale is Kern/ALPA original though.

The predecessor was the Kern Switar for ALPA 50/1.8. The Kern Macro Switar 50/1.9 for ALPA was a redesigned (one element added) and improved version so watch out for the lens speed if interested in buying one. Go for the f/1.9 version.
I remember it had some problem with flare. The focusing
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Tim is selling this lens. I may grab it just to see what's about! https://www.instagram.com/tim.lei.378/p/DQWfX9mk60e/



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p.30 #11 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
Tim is selling this lens. I may grab it just to see what's about! https://www.instagram.com/tim.lei.378/p/DQWfX9mk60e/


USD 3.500 is a lot of money... As mentioned I recall it had some problems with flare. Shooting into the sun is not the forte of this lens. Very high resolution, low contrast. The coating was kind of soft so check for scratches on the rear element.
Tim's copy is very nice looking! The conversion is interesting as the ugly shutter release bump is removed.
Here is a picture, or two, of the copy I had:















Dec 30, 2025 at 03:43 AM
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p.30 #12 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


I am just now reading through all of these posts on the lens, but have to say that about spit out my coffee when I saw the "pirate's telescope" reference lol. That is why I just bought the Thypoch 75mm and now reading more about the 50mm (not that I need another 50mm lens lol)

Back to page six now!

highdesertmesa wrote:
75 1.5! It would be nice to have something else reasonably priced to compete with the Voigtlander 75 1.5 that doesn't look like a pirate's telescope





Dec 31, 2025 at 07:13 AM
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p.30 #13 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


With only short intervals separating their times of release, each Simera had little time to gather interest, and it seems fair to say the lenses are targeted at the fringe of the Leica fringe of photography in any case. They seemed completely foreign.

So the 50mm seemed a strange fit for any niche. It's quite different from the source design (the Summilux 50/1.4) in most respects. It will eventually come to be seen as the quiet achiever of the range, most likely.

Thypoch's approach is much like that of Light lens Lab. Working inside the narrow envelope imposed by the desire to remain faithful to the rendering styles of the source lenses, they embarked on a thoroughgoing attention to detail and where they saw fit, engineering improvements. A modernising makeover, if you will, where success is measured by the final image quality and feature sets.

It's a great method if it works for you, because you end up with both the idiosyncratic pictorial style of the source lens AND modern, digital-friendly improvements to deal with base-level aberrations of importance, like CA and distortion. If done well.

For users of this one, below is a recent YouTube video, unusually shot on film - Ektar 100. The presenter visits a fine village and, as part of it, compares this Simera with a CV 50/2.2 Color-Skopar and TTArtisan 50/1.4.

Thomas's analysis starts at around 8:00. He's got a good eye, overall. He does say Thypoch could not deliver higher image quality (sharpness, I imagine) due to the size constraints on M lenses. That's not true here because high MTF is not the primary engineering design criterion, and certainly not wide open.

The Chinese makers don't lack for easy access to a very fine glass catalog, all of it very affordable, as we see reflected in final RRP. No, it's a cine lens in disguise - the exact design is used in the rather more esteemed and popular Simera-C range. But little to quibble about, other than that.

Of note is the MFD and close focus comparison between these lenses, and the Simera 50mm performance specifically. At f1.4, it produces dreamy soft fade and conventional bokeh at 0.45m, but at 0.7m is has more of the expected deep image lens 3D model with smoothed visual hints at background content.

It's also very good at MFD. I tend to think of these kinds of characteristics as 'extra arrows in one's quiver'. And close focus seems to be a very good fit for digital, and it's assuming greater attention in reviews nowadays. (8:34)

At 11:20 we see a very effective focus pull demo and bokeh examination. It's a very smooth lens, smooth in its center-corner fade, its vignette, color tone gradation, and of course bokeh. I knew how good it gets at f5.6-f8 and its low light ability, highlight handling, but the close focus is a good gain. He thinks the focus ring helicoid geometry is strangely scaled, but Simeras are set up for fast action so the focus range you will need is fast to reach. It's pretty common now for street lenses.

The Simeras are all slightly warm (cine), so much so that the Voigtlanders appear a little frosty in low light after using the Simeras. These are much closer to Zeiss and Leica from 30 years ago, the CVs more akin to modern Zeiss and Leica, as what I see. The 50mm seems good in pretty much every department that matters to most people, leaving aside ergo/haptics issues.
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Mar 24, 2026 at 01:45 AM
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p.30 #14 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


'compete with the Voigtlander 75 1.5 that doesn't look like a pirate's telescope'

They are rather different optical styles, both excellent. The Simera is more vivid and seems more popular for street and impromptu portraits, but the CV lens sees use as an artistic lens too - it's a matter of taste :

https://www.flickr.com/groups/14659759@N23/pool/with/53970269605/

These two share the same conical design structure inside. The Simera 75mm is the same dimensions as the Nokton L&W, 20 grams heavier, but has closer MFD, more iris blades, FLE. That's all good, and it has greater presence and authenticity, where the Voigt goes more for style and a more traditional photographic feel, very good for B&W. The Simera 75mm feels like a cine lens because it is. It's pretty addictive. It's more versatile around street locations, but not a great landscape lens. The forthcoming CV 90/4 might be that one.



Mar 24, 2026 at 02:07 AM
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p.30 #15 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Decided to try this lens out. I'm looking forward to seeing what it does in person.


May 16, 2026 at 08:10 PM
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p.30 #16 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


I have two questions for those of you who have been using the Simera 50mm f/1.4 for a while:

1. Does the short focus travel at wide apertures cause any problems when focusing in practice? Particularly when shooting close-ups and portraits?

2. Does the lens’s unique focusing mechanism cause it to attract dust, which then collects inside the mechanism or between the lenses?



Jun 02, 2026 at 03:59 PM
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p.30 #17 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Anyone knows if the M and E/Z versions are optically identical? Or if there are differences like the Voigtländer Noktons (E/Z are better).

Thank you 🙏

I just came across a good deal on the 50mm f/1.4 Simera M, and of course I’m immediately tempted to treat myself to one. Since I’m also considering a ZF in the longer term, I’m wondering whether the M and E versions are identical in terms of optical performance.



Jun 17, 2026 at 09:28 AM
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p.30 #18 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


gammarART wrote:
Anyone knows if the M and E/Z versions are optically identical? Or if there are differences like the Voigtländer Noktons (E/Z are better).

Thank you 🙏

I just came across a good deal on the 50mm f/1.4 Simera M, and of course I’m immediately tempted to treat myself to one. Since I’m also considering a ZF in the longer term, I’m wondering whether the M and E versions are identical in terms of optical performance.


Right now the non-cine lens only comes in M and Z mount according to the Thypoch website:

https://thypoch.com/en/simera/50mm

The cine version comes in M and E mount, but is a bit bigger with focus gears and a different housing. Here is a link to the cine version on the Thypoch website:

https://thypoch.com/en/simera-c/16-21-28-35-50-75mm

Nehemiah compared a copy of the non-cine M-mount with a copy of the cine E mount awhile back and they did perform a bit differently. I suspect, but have no evidence that Thypoch is not adjusting the optical formula for the sensor stack thickness like Voigtlander does, but is seems possible to me that the non-cine version and the cine version are not exactly the same in how they perform. Thypoch has been asked about this issues by several people and nobody seems able to get a straight answer.

So my guess is that Thypoch does not adjust the optical formula, but I have no clear evidence of that. I also suspect that the cine version and the non-cine version might be slightly different, but again the evidence for that is not strong and based on just one copy of each.

There is no regular (i.e., non-cine) E mount version of this lens like there is for the 28mm and 35mm lenses.

Oddly, Thypoch is not at all consistent in what mounts they make the Simera lenses:

For the regular non-cine lenses

The 21mm and 75mm only come in M mount.

The 28mm and 35mm come in M, E, Z, and RF mount

The 50mm comes in M and Z mount

The cine versions of all five lenses, however, come in M and E mount.



Jun 17, 2026 at 09:48 AM
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p.30 #19 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


I’d ordered the M-mount version of the lens, but sent it back after a quick test. The short focus throw makes it difficult to focus the lens at wide apertures. It’s much easier to focus the Nokton 50mm f/1.2 at wide apertures than this lens at f/1.4. What’s more, the focus ring is far too stiff, which exacerbates the problem. The peculiar mechanism for the unusual depth-of-field indicator is quite an interesting feature, but it serves no practical purpose, as it appears to be the reason for the stiffness.

At wide-open aperture, this lens is prone to really severe purple chromatic aberrations. That didn’t exactly win me over either.

The German proverb ‘you get what you pay for’ certainly applies to this product. Fortunately, you can return products ordered online.



Jun 17, 2026 at 10:12 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
I suspect, but have no evidence that Thypoch is not adjusting the optical formula for the sensor stack thickness like Voigtlander does...

I'd say, "like Voigtlander claims".
I know, we all know, that Voigt M-versions don't perform as well as Z-mount versions on Nikon bodies due to corner degradation (visible even when adapting the VM 90/2 Apo). However, apart from what Cosina states in its brochures, the company does not specify what "optical changes" have been made to the Z- and E-mount versions. The only transparent information is available for the 50/2 AL, whose E- and Z-mount versions have a visibly different optical scheme. We even don't know if Z- and E-version share the same "optical formula" or they differ someway according to the different sensor stack thickness of Sony and Nikon MILCs.
Consequently, I have a number of doubts and questions that no one can answer without venturing into speculation based on personal impressions – and therefore nothing technically sound:

- why Cosina changed the optical scheme of the VM 50/2 AL when they introduced the E-mount version?

- does the Z-mount version of the 50/2 AL differ for the E-mount version? (same question applies to other Voigtlander lenses available in both E- and Z-mount)

- when we talk about ‘optical changes’, what exactly do we mean?

- does Cosina use glass elements with a different composition and/or curvature?

- does Cosina alter the distances between the various elements? or does it simply adjust the distance between the rear element and the sensor to account for the sensor stack filter thickness?

paulleica wrote:
The German proverb ‘you get what you pay for’ certainly applies to this product. Fortunately, you can return products ordered online.


John Ruskin once said: "It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money — that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do."


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