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p.1 #1 · Quintessential Fujifilm (and 3rd party) lenses?


I just snagged my first digital Fujifilm camera and would love some good lens options for it! It's quite the contrast to my main setup, a Sony a7rV, so I'm very unfamiliar with the offerings. I snagged an XT50 body with the TTArtisans 27mm f2.8 pancake to start with since I'll have a month to return that lens. What are some really good "bang for the buck" and maybe slightly higher end but not particularly top shelf lens options?

I started off doing automotive photography (stills and action) but have really moved into city/street, nature, close ups/macro, and landscape type stuff lately. Basically a little bit of everything except portrait. I decided to snag a Fuji in hopes that I could get a bit more creative with my photos, with my Sony I want everything to be very sharp and clinical, almost always searching for that "perfect" photo. I know Fuji is basically on the opposite end of the spectrum (still capable of sharp pictures, but I feel like its not the main goal) so this should be a lot of fun!



Aug 21, 2024 at 12:58 PM
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p.1 #2 · Quintessential Fujifilm (and 3rd party) lenses?


I have an XT5 so same sensor. I would think the little F2's would suit you well and a perfect size for the XT50. The 18/23/35/50 F2 lens are cheap (especially on the used market) and very good lenses. I don't shoot portraits either but the 50f2 is worth having because it is so good. You will find things to shoot with it. For zooms, I like the 16-80 because that focal range is really good and it has an undeserved reputation for not being good, so its cheap. Also 18-55 or new 16-50 aren't expensive either but I've not used them.


Aug 21, 2024 at 01:43 PM
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p.1 #3 · Quintessential Fujifilm (and 3rd party) lenses?


I wouldn't say there are many "quintessential" XF lenses, short of the original 35/1.4. It's been replaced by the 33/1.4, a "better" lens that lacks the character of the original.

You might also make an argument for the original 56/1.2.

Basically what you lose is AF motor speed and weather sealing with the older glass, but you get more character rendering and less clinicalness.

You can also grab some really nice Voigtlander MF only glass if you want a totally different experience (MF with Fuji fly by wire lenses sucks).



Aug 21, 2024 at 01:56 PM
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p.1 #4 · Quintessential Fujifilm (and 3rd party) lenses?


What I find to be the major point of Fuji understanding users who want FF equivalent lenses. The lenses on my shortlist are:
1. 16/1.4
2. 23/1.4 (any version)
3. 56/1.2
4. 16-80/4
5. 18-55/2.8-4
6. 10-35/4

I also really like the Samyang AF 12/2.

They have excellent rendering and none are overly large.

As a former (and probably future) Sony shooter, I would have a hard time recommending the f/2's when there are such good options with Sony. Shoot, the 23/2 is a great, but I am not sure it is better than the Sony 35/2.8.

If you really want some fun on Sony, try out the LA-EA5 with Minolta lenses. Talk about character. Love the rendering on so many of them.



Aug 21, 2024 at 07:24 PM
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Of lenses I have used, the old 35mm 1.4 has been suggested. It's a fun lens, with very useable sharpness wide open and a bokeh with some character. I think it deserves its reputation as a classic lens.

I'd also recommend the 60mm f2.4, not so much for macro where its AF capabilities are annoying, but as a short telephoto. It is very sharp and renders really nicely, and you can get some swirly bokeh.

The 18mm f2 also renders nicely and has very useable sharpness wide open. The extreme corners never get super sharp, so I wouldn't recommend it as a landscape lens.

The Laowa Argus 33mm f0.95 is a stunning manual focus lens. It is sharp and contrasty wide open, which is unusual for a lens in this class. It is also a very heavy lens for its size. Again, it produces very interesting and pleasing bokeh, and is a lens that can be said to give a medium format look on Fuji APS-C.

The 16mm f1.4 is great lens for its near macro capability. It can produce some really interesting close-up shots of small things, where you want some blown out background included.

The 18-55mm and 10-24mm are good workhorse lenses and sharp enough, but I don't think there is anything special (or necessarily bad) about their rendering.

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Aug 21, 2024 at 07:55 PM
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For the subjects you listed that you’ve moved into, the selection is pretty straightforward I think. 10-24/4 and 16-55/2.8 cover landscape. The 16-55 while biggish is my all-around street/travel lens, though when I’m in the “classic look” mood I head out with the 35/1.4. Nature is an open pit; you can do a lot with a 50-140/2.8 along with it would be ideal for your automotive pursuits, but if you’re talking animals and birds, you’re going to want the 100-400 with a 1.4x or the 150-600. Macro is another pit; to some it means close ups of flowers or salt and pepper shakers, to others it means a full frame of a spiders eyes. For the former a good 2-element diopter on the front of either the 50-140 or 100-400 makes a very flexible, hand holdable kit. For the latter, the newer 80 is probably the way to go. The 30 is an all around focal, but it’s just so-so as a normal taking lens and better as a macro, but then it has an uncomfortably close macro working distance. My .02 FWIW.


Aug 21, 2024 at 09:04 PM
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IMO the quintessential XF lens is the 35 1.4

#2 favorite for me is the Voigtlander 23 1.2

Both more "character" lenses than uber sharp - for that job the 35 1.4 GM and 50 1.2 for the Sonys get the work.






Aug 21, 2024 at 10:30 PM
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Geoff D F wrote:
The Laowa Argus 33mm f0.95 is a stunning manual focus lens. It is sharp and contrasty wide open, which is unusual for a lens in this class. It is also a very heavy lens for its size. Again, it produces very interesting and pleasing bokeh, and is a lens that can be said to give a medium format look on Fuji APS-C.


Oh I do love that MF look! I'll research that one a bit!!



Aug 21, 2024 at 11:56 PM
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liggy wrote:
IMO the quintessential XF lens is the 35 1.4

#2 favorite for me is the Voigtlander 23 1.2

Both more "character" lenses than uber sharp - for that job the 35 1.4 GM and 50 1.2 for the Sonys get the work.


Yeah that's why I got the Fuji, for when I don't want to focus on that crazy sharp and technically correct photograph. Very excited to see a more artistic side.



Aug 21, 2024 at 11:57 PM
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RoamingScott wrote:
I wouldn't say there are many "quintessential" XF lenses, short of the original 35/1.4. It's been replaced by the 33/1.4, a "better" lens that lacks the character of the original.

You might also make an argument for the original 56/1.2.

Basically what you lose is AF motor speed and weather sealing with the older glass, but you get more character rendering and less clinicalness.

You can also grab some really nice Voigtlander MF only glass if you want a totally different experience (MF with Fuji fly by wire lenses sucks).


AF speed isnt too important to me on this body thankfully. And the body isn't weather sealed anyway so that makes selecting a lens a bit easier haha. I have the Sony when sealing and AF is important. I've heard a lot of good stuff about the 56mm!



Aug 21, 2024 at 11:59 PM
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Can only concour with the original 35/1.4, love this lens, will never part with.
I'd like to try it on my new Z8, that should be a hoot, though, i think both adapter choices are expensive.



Aug 22, 2024 at 05:21 PM
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p.1 #12 · Quintessential Fujifilm (and 3rd party) lenses?


35mm 1.4 like others have suggested. 90mm f2 is also another great option in the system if you have the working distance available to use it. 18-55mm f2.8-4 has its own place which doesn't quite have an equivalent in other APS-C systems. The 16-55mm f2.8 is too big for my liking and at that point I would rather take my Sony FF system.



Aug 22, 2024 at 06:00 PM
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mjeffv2 wrote:
I just snagged my first digital Fujifilm camera and would love some good lens options for it! It's quite the contrast to my main setup, a Sony a7rV, so I'm very unfamiliar with the offerings. I snagged an XT50 body with the TTArtisans 27mm f2.8 pancake to start with since I'll have a month to return that lens. What are some really good "bang for the buck" and maybe slightly higher end but not particularly top shelf lens options?

I started off doing automotive photography (stills and action) but have really moved into city/street, nature, close ups/macro, and landscape type stuff
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With a preamble reminder that the most important factor when choosing lenses is matching their objective characteristics to your specific needs, here are some lenses I’ve owned or currently own and my experience with them. Also, keep in mind that there really aren’t any really bad lenses from Fujifilm and they generally are quite good. I don’t use third-party lenses in my system, so all of the following are from Fujifilm. Ask me for more details about any that interest you.

14mm f/2.8 — I have had this lens since I first started using the x-trans system a dozen years ago. It is a really great lens, and of Fujifilm’s “sleeper” lenses that many people don’t know about.

23mm f/1.4 — This lens has been superseded, I believe, by a newer model, but mine has served me well. I often use it for night street photography in urban environments.

27mm f/2.8 — This is one of Fujifilm’s most interesting lenses if you are a street/travel photographer who likes to use primes. It is the lens that is most often on my XT5… and was on my XPro2 and (a long time ago) my XE1. Optical quality is excellent and it is tiny.

35mm f/1.4 — This was the very first Fujifilm lens I purchased and its performance sold me on the system. I would not trade mine away for newer alternatives. (I actually tested it against the fine f/2 version that I had for a couple of weeks. I kept the f/1.4 because I can use the larger aperture, but the f/2 is a good alternative, too.) For a f/1.4 lens with the same angle-of-view coverage as a full-frame 52.5mm lens, this thing is quite small.

60mm f/2.4 macro — This lens is a mixed bag. Optically it is absolutely first class. The 60mm focal length can be quite useful for all kinds of photography, not just macro. It has a few oddities though. The hood is ridiculously huge. (I replaced mine with a tiny screw-in third-party alternative.) It is more of a “close focus” lens than a true macro, which may or may not be enough. It is a slow focusing lens, though it is accurate.

80mm f/2.8 macro — This is an outstanding lens. It gives up nothing to my Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L macro — to the point that I choose the Fujifilm over the Canon for almost all macro photography. It also makes a fine 80mm general prime, and can be used for things like portraits wide open. It is a big, heavy, and expensive lens.

90mm f/2 - Another outstanding lens. It competes with the 135mm f/2 lenses on full frame. I used to use the Canon 135mm f/2.8L for some event and occasional portrait photography, and the Fujifilm 90mm gives up nothing to the Canon. I carry it for travel as part of a small set of primes.

18-55mm f/2.8-f/4 “kit” lens — This is the old “kit” lens, currently replaced by a 16-50mm lens with which I have no experience. I used this older version a few times for travel and for a “happy snap” camera when doing backcountry landscape photography with my big full-frame rig. I was expecting much from it, but it really performs beautifully.

55-200mm variable aperture lens — I had this lens years back, and I carried it for travel photography along with a few primes. It was my one long lens for that purpose. On the plus side its optical performance was pretty good, and it packs very small since the zoom is the extending type. On the down side, I did not find the AF to be reliable enough at the long end (albeit on an older cameras), and the f/5.6 aperture at 200mm is limiting. It can be a useful lens for certain purposes — like travel — but mine eventually suffered a mechanical breakdown that did not give me confidence in its build quality.

16-55mm f/2.8 — This lens is in the same category as the classic 24-70mm f/2.8 lenses on full frame. It performs very much like my Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II — in other words, a solid, reliable, and overall prograde lens. It is big, and many users might be better served by one of the smaller “kit” zooms.

50-140mm f/2.8 — Another absolutely first class lens, with performance in he same range as that of the various Canon 70–200mm f/2.8L and f/4L lenses that I have owned and still own. As you would expect, it is large and expensive, but if you need what it provides…

100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 — For me, the jury is still a bit out on this lens. I got it last year to see how it would compare to using my Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L. (Notably, it arguably gives more reach at 400mm given the 1.5x crop factor on Fujifilm.) In many situations it works very well — certainly when manually focusing with the system on a tripod as you might do for landscape photography, or when using AF with subjects that aren’t moving a lot. I’m not yet fully convinced that it is up to the performance level I want for moving subjects — e.g. wildlife.

I’ve used these cameras and lenses to do a very wide range of photography, and most people don’t need anything like this number of lenses.

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Aug 22, 2024 at 06:27 PM
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Samyang 12/2 (AF) is a trip, and can be had cheap at times.
Fuji 18/2 XF is a gem. Focus speeds on modern cameras are just fine, but AF is loud. Wild pricing variation.
Fuji 23/2 XF is a gem. Some people don't like the close-up performance, it's just fine.
Fuji 35/2 XC is a total sleeper. I love that lens.
Fuji 35/1.4 XF is a gem, but a dog for AF speeds. Overpriced often.

Those are the ones I've used that "WOWED" me. I think a LOT of the XF lenses are self-defeating- either too big or too pricey compared to similar options in other systems (looking at Sony), rendering the small Fuji bodies kinda pointless. If you are going to shoot Fuji, shoot the small glass (IMO).



Aug 27, 2024 at 06:08 PM
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If you want wider, get the original 18mm f/2. For longer, the 50mm f/2 would pair nicely with your 27.


Aug 28, 2024 at 09:36 PM
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If you avoid XC lenses and superzooms, almost all Fuji made XF lenses have enjoyed the "quintessential" reputation.


Aug 28, 2024 at 09:50 PM
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I have had many of the classic Fuji XF lenses.. and have never been disappointed with their IQ. However, I really like the results I get from 2 Voigtlander X mount lenses in particular .. the 35 f 2.0 APO macro x mount, and the 27mm f 2.0 x mount. The IQ rendering is not clinical.. but pleasing and certainly film-like. Both are more than sharp enough for my tastes and the colors imo are superb. Manual focus is easy with modern Fuji X bodies. I tend to bring these two whenever I leave the house.



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Aug 29, 2024 at 07:01 AM
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I’m not a big fan of the term “clinical” to describe lenses. What, other than “a bit soft,”does it mean to say that a lens is “non-clinical?”


Aug 29, 2024 at 09:30 AM
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SGinNorcal wrote:
I have an XT5 so same sensor. I would think the little F2's would suit you well and a perfect size for the XT50. The 18/23/35/50 F2 lens are cheap (especially on the used market) and very good lenses. I don't shoot portraits either but the 50f2 is worth having because it is so good. You will find things to shoot with it. For zooms, I like the 16-80 because that focal range is really good and it has an undeserved reputation for not being good, so its cheap. Also 18-55 or new 16-50 aren't expensive either but I've not
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Agreed. When I had Fuji cameras (XT1, 2, and 3, X-Pro 1) the f2 primes suited me well. It's been a while so I never shot the newer lenses, but the 16-55 performed well as did the 56/1.2 which produced very good DoF shots with smooth bokeh. All of these pop up on the B&S forum for very reasonable prices. All that said, the 23/1.4 was probably my favorite Fuji lens.



Aug 29, 2024 at 09:36 AM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
I’m not a big fan of the term “clinical” to describe lenses. What, other than “a bit soft,”does it mean to say that a lens is “non-clinical?”


I regularly use —and like— the term clinical. One of the sharpest lenses ever tested was a Leica Summicron that resolved 200 lpmm — you needed an optical bench to measure is as no film could resolve that. Summicrons were anything but clinical in their rendering.

To me the clinicality comes from the newer lens design attributes of high contrast and micro-contrast edge to edge. Both affect the perception of resolution but don’t necessarily generate more real resolution, just the impression of it.

Today with digital sharpening, high amount low radius, combined with excellent clarity options, we can generate a lot of beneficial global and micro contrast, such that when used with a not clinical lens, we can recapture a lot of the contemporary look if desired, but also can retain a legacy look when we don’t. Contrarily, we can add negative clarity and contrast to a clinical lens’ image and soften that character. However, that usually doesn’t recreate the legacy lens’ traits of oof rendering and non-linear contrast falloff, and digital attempts to replicate either or both usually fall well short. So just speaking for myself, these latter two traits are what makes the legacy look desirable. My .02, respect YMMV.



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