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Official Canon EOS R1 Images and Specifications

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johnvanr wrote:
It’s not made for wildlife shooters. That’s the R5 Mark II. This one is for sports and journalism shooters, who don’t need the resolution but need the best AF and fast connectivity.
Then what is the point of the R3 anymore? Both Nikon and Sony had low res, high speed flagships before, but then Sony released the A1 which is both, Nikon the Z9 which is both, the R1 was expected to be both as the R3 fills the exact same niche of sports and photojournalism

Jul 17, 2024 at 08:37 AM

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According to Chris and Jordan's first-look video released today, the R1 has a readout speed of 1/300 at 14-bits.

Jul 17, 2024 at 08:54 AM

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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Official Canon EOS R1 Images and Specifications

This "official" thread needs some actual Official links in it.

https://www.usa.canon.com/newsroom/2024/20240717-camera

MELVILLE, N.Y., July 17, 2024 — Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, today launched two new professional full-frame mirrorless cameras, the EOS R1 and EOS R5 Mark II. The EOS R1 camera is designed for both professional still photographers and video creators in a wide range of fields including sports, news reporting and high-end video production. The EOS R5 Mark II camera features improved video focused features for the advanced creators and real-time multi recognition tracking system for those who focus on still photography.

Canon EOS R1 Camera is “Ahead of the Game”

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https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-R1.aspx

https://www.dpreview.com/news/5361436240/canon-announces-eos-r1-flagship-sports-photojournalism-camera

Jul 17, 2024 at 09:12 AM

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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Official Canon EOS R1 Images and Specifications

Regarding flagships, it appears Canon has hoisted a white flag on this ship.

Jul 17, 2024 at 09:23 AM

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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Official Canon EOS R1 Images and Specifications

The point of the R3 is so that Canon could sell you the same camera for $6299 three years later but rebrand it as a “flagship.”

ingekj wrote:
Then what is the point of the R3 anymore? Both Nikon and Sony had low res, high speed flagships before, but then Sony released the A1 which is both, Nikon the Z9 which is both, the R1 was expected to be both as the R3 fills the exact same niche of sports and photojournalism

Jul 17, 2024 at 09:28 AM

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I think people are missing the BIG advancement the R1 has over all others on the market. And that's the Cross-type AF it has which will finally put an end to the AF hunting that has plagued all mirrorless cameras.
This R1 seems to be a workhorse tool aimed towards the working sports pros. Which is what the 1 series has always been made for. The competition's flagships must try to compete with Canon's second tier 5 series. Which based on a price standpoint alone, they are failing badly at.

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Jul 17, 2024 at 09:31 AM

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Yeah until the Z9 II and a1 II are released and we go through the same thing we went through with the R5. It was king for like six months and then the a1 came out and was better in basically every regard. Nikon also has the Z8 which directly competes with the R5 Mark II so it’s not just flagships from other brands that are comparable.

lighthound wrote:
I think people are missing the BIG advancement the R1 has over all others on the market. And that's the Cross-type AF it has which will finally put an end to the AF hunting that has plagued all mirrorless cameras.
This R1 seems to be a workhorse tool aimed towards the working sports pros. Which is what the 1 series has always been made for. The competition's flagships must try to compete with Canon's second tier 5 series. Which based on a price standpoint alone, they are failing badly at.

Jul 17, 2024 at 09:48 AM

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ingekj wrote:
Then what is the point of the R3 anymore? Both Nikon and Sony had low res, high speed flagships before, but then Sony released the A1 which is both, Nikon the Z9 which is both, the R1 was expected to be both as the R3 fills the exact same niche of sports and photojournalism

Don’t know much about the R3, but I doubt it will continue as a line. I think the key to these cameras is the speed AND the interconnectivity. Sony, afaik, only delivers similar speeds and connectivity on its A9 series, which is also low-res. Don’t know about Nikon. If you’re a wildlife shooter, Canon offers you a $4300 option against the more expensive A1 and the roughly similarly priced Z8. The R1 is just not aimed at our crowd, just as the A9III isn’t either.

Jul 17, 2024 at 09:52 AM

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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Official Canon EOS R1 Images and Specifications

Calling the Z8 and R5II "similarly priced" is...something, but ok.

Jul 17, 2024 at 09:58 AM

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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Official Canon EOS R1 Images and Specifications

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24MP Full-Frame Stacked BSI CMOS Sensor
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Jul 17, 2024 at 10:14 AM

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RoamingScott wrote:
Calling the Z8 and R5II "similarly priced" is...something, but ok.

In the US at least, the Z8 and the R5II are priced within $300 of each other. For $4,000 cameras, give or take, this feels similar enough to me.

You can't look at the current sale pricing on the Z8 and compare it with the full MAP price of the R5 Mark II. The Canon will receive its own discounts down the road.

Jul 17, 2024 at 10:17 AM

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johnvanr wrote:
Don’t know much about the R3, but I doubt it will continue as a line. I think the key to these cameras is the speed AND the interconnectivity. Sony, afaik, only delivers similar speeds and connectivity on its A9 series, which is also low-res. Don’t know about Nikon. If you’re a wildlife shooter, Canon offers you a $4300 option against the more expensive A1 and the roughly similarly priced Z8. The R1 is just not aimed at our crowd, just as the A9III isn’t either.

R5Ii - $4299
Z8 - $3496.95

$802.05 price difference

Jul 17, 2024 at 10:18 AM

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garyvot wrote:
In the US at least, the Z8 and the R5II are priced within $300 of each other. For $4,000 cameras, give or take, this feels similar enough to me.

You can't look at the current sale pricing on the Z8 and compare it with the full MAP price of the R5 Mark II. The Canon will receive its own discounts down the road.

Considering the Z8's lower pricing (vs its original MSRP) is the result of it being on the market for a while, ie being ahead of Canon by a generation, I think it's fair to compare its pricing vs R5 II.

Jul 17, 2024 at 10:20 AM

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snapsy wrote:
Considering the Z8's lower pricing (vs its original MSRP) is the result of it being on the market for a while, ie being ahead of Canon by a generation, I think it's fair to compare its pricing vs R5 II.

It's not. The price is the price. Consumers don't care at all about time on market, they care about feature to price ratios.

Jul 17, 2024 at 10:42 AM

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RoamingScott wrote:
It's not. The price is the price. Consumers don't care at all about time on market, they care about feature to price ratios.

If I'm not mistaken, I think snapsy was agreeing with you that the price is the price. You have to look at what the camera can be purchased for today, and not a past or future price. If Canon reduces the R5II price to $3799 then okay, they would be "similarly priced". But until that happens, the price difference is $800.

And I think time on the market is also relevant, as people are trying to compare the price of the R5II to the year old Z8, which makes it even more unfavorable for the higher priced R5II.

Jul 17, 2024 at 10:49 AM

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The problem isn’t that the R1 isn’t aimed at bird/wildlife, I’ve been using an R3 almost solely for the past two years for that specific purpose because the overall shooting experience was better than that of the R5. The issue is that the R1 doesn’t offer a significant difference over the R3 so it feels like a huge missed opportunity. I’d love to have seen an insanely fast body like the a9 III in Canon’s lineup because the speed of something like that really opens up new possibilities. A 10fps increase and better AF (compared to an already phenomenal AF system) just doesn’t.

johnvanr wrote:
Don’t know much about the R3, but I doubt it will continue as a line. I think the key to these cameras is the speed AND the interconnectivity. Sony, afaik, only delivers similar speeds and connectivity on its A9 series, which is also low-res. Don’t know about Nikon. If you’re a wildlife shooter, Canon offers you a $4300 option against the more expensive A1 and the roughly similarly priced Z8. The R1 is just not aimed at our crowd, just as the A9III isn’t either.

Jul 17, 2024 at 11:16 AM

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According to multiple reviewers, the R1 has the best AF in the industry. Fingers crossed that Canon would release an S version of this camera with the R5 II sensor.

Jul 17, 2024 at 11:35 AM

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Jman13 wrote:
I'm sure it's a good camera. A very good camera, but the R1 is only very slightly faster than the Z8's readout, despite having half the resolution.

Have we seen any measurements of the R1 readout speed yet? Closest I've seen is the flash sync speed which is 2x as fast as the Z8.

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Jul 17, 2024 at 11:47 AM

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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · Official Canon EOS R1 Images and Specifications

Releasing a 24mp camera in 2024 is... a choice. Yeah, yeah, yeah I know 1-series is aimed at photojournalists, etc. I was a photojournalist. There's also a lot of people that work in multiple different areas of photography, and more than 24mp would make this a much better "do everything" camera.

I guess on the plus side, this might help take down used prices for R3s.

Jul 17, 2024 at 11:48 AM

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CelesteForza wrote:
According to multiple reviewers, the R1 has the best AF in the industry. Fingers crossed that Canon would release an S version of this camera with the R5 II sensor.

24mp in the regular R1 makes a lot more sense to me with release of an R3s or an R1s with that sensor.

Jul 17, 2024 at 11:49 AM

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