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 p.1 #7 · Sony FF owners who also own a Oly/OM | |
offtraildog wrote:
Hi
I believe there are a few of you on this forum ...
I owned many Sony FF bodies and lenses but wanted to downsize my kit and switched to the OM-1 for overall size, etc. I only shoot stills and take pics when hiking and travel. No wildlife, portraits, sports, etc.
I had owned the A7C at one point but there were so bothersome features and my most recent Sony was the A7IV w/ 24-105. Great setup but too big so I switched to the OM-1 1.5 yrs ago. I was on a trip recently and had a chance to play with the new A7CII and I would be fine with the improvements.
I have wanted to reduce my kit size down even more then the OM-1 (12-40/2.8) and previously had been considering the OM-5 + 12-45/4 for hiking plus I have the PL9/1.7 and PL 15/1.7 as fast, compact primes.
However, occasionally I find the DR of the OM-1 limiting compared to what I was use to with my A7R4 & 5, A7IV, A7C, etc with challenging lighting (sunsets, dark forests/bright skies, narrow village streets, dark interior buildings) so my thinking is get the A7CR for the improved DR.
Compared to OM, the a6700 DR is better at ISO100 and there are some nice compact body/zoom combos but at ISO200+, the DR is essentially identical to the OM bodies so not ideal.
I do like the OM EVF, built-in ND, stabilization, menu system, battery life, ultrasonic sensor cleaning, etc. and realize the A7CR would be a step back with these features so no system is perfect.
I am curious why you have bought an Oly/OM body as a 2nd camera instead of the A7C11/R?
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I have used Sony A1 for the last three years, and added OM-1 II & 12-40 F2.8 II very recently, in early March.
My most used leases with the A1 are Tamron 35-150mm F2.0-2.8 (MFT equivalent: 17-75 mm F1.0-1.4) and, more recently, Tamron 50-400 F4.5-6.3 (MFT equivalent: 25-200 F2.2-3.2), as well as Sony 35mm F1.4 GM. I also own, but use rarely, other Sony lenses: 24-105 G, 200-600 G, 70-200 GM II. Ultimately, I am very happy with my A1 and the lens kit.
The two Tamron lenses are similar in length&weight at 158 - 183mm and 1,165g -1,155g. These are considered to be relatively heavy lenses in the Sony ecosystem. I mention this to say that I am very comfortable and happy with the heavier and larger lenses, and I am not at all pursuing a light and compact camera system.
I added the OM-1 II mostly for fun.
After using this camera for the last three weeks, I would say I like it, especially with the 12-40 mm F2.8 II lens (a very nice and useful lens, by the way!). The two outstanding features are the quality of the auto WB and the 8.5 stops of IS. I like all of the computational photography features - these can be very useful and certainly fun to play with. The hand-held hi-res mode is great for reducing the noise. The camera is light and compact; thus, I often have it with me on the way to work (a 30 min walk from home) and back, for casual snapshot type of photography. This is better than using a smartphone.
I like low-light, night-time photography and so far it seems that OM-1 II might be an excellent camera for this application - considerably better than my A1 (even when combined with the fast 35mm F1.4 lens).
OM-1 II can take pictures in a nearly complete darkness, and the auto WB performs better than that on my A1 in low light.
Something else that I like about the OM-1 II is that it is educational, in a way. With the 50 MP A1, one easily picks up the wrong habits: pixel-peeping and relying on cropping in post. With the OM-1 II, it is best not to pixel-peep, and one must learn the skills of composing in the viewfinder rather than in post, by cropping.
OM-1 is also good, in my experience, for panoramas, by stitching two-three 25 mm shots.
What I don't like about the Olympus/OM System ecosystem is the very very very (and I can add more very) limited choice of fast pro-quality lenses compared to the Sony ecosystem that is bloated with too many beautiful lenses from Sony, Sigma, Tamron, Voigtländer, etc.. It seems that the MFT ecosystem has long been dominated by users who want the smallest and lightest possible lenses that, naturally and inevitably, turn out to bee slow (like F4) or very slow (like F6.3).
I recently added a fast M.Zuiko lens (17mm F1.2) that costs the same as the Sony 35mm F1.4 (CA $1,600 when there are no sales) and, my God, how much better the fast Sony lens is in every respect, even on my older Sony camera - the 24MP A7III. I was thinking about expanding my MFT lens kit by adding the 40-150mm F2.8, but I am not longer sure if this would make practical sense. I suspect that my Sony A1 with the Tamron 35-150mm F2.0-2.8 or 50-400mm F4.5-6.3 lens gives me much better image quality and versatility.
Ultimately, when the overall camera system size and weight are the top priorities, as they are for many FMers for different reasons, then OM-1 or the newer Sony A7Rc or A7cII cameras (and some APS-C cameras) are naturally the cameras of choice. I happen to like the heavier and larger lenses that give ultimate image quality and have fast AF motors. I think I am going to use both OM-1 and A1, but for different reasons. To me, OM-1 II excels in low-light photography of static subjects (landscapes, cityscapes, and similar) and this is an excellent camera to have when hiking, for occasional snapshots.
OM-1 & 12-24mm F2.8 can also be useful for travel when bringing excessive luggage can be expensive and/or very inconvenient. I am going to Europe in May (Spain and Italy) with carry-on luggage only, and I am planning on taking only OM-1 & 12-24mm F2.8 and the 17mm F1.2 with me. This should be fun.
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