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Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

BillD208 wrote:
Unrelated to your question. Which model Mac did you buy?

M2 Studio

Mar 01, 2024 at 10:40 PM

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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

Congrats that machine should last you many years. I've got an M1 Studio that I upgraded from a 2013 iMac. It was a nice upgrade for me after 9 years.

Mar 01, 2024 at 10:42 PM

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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

If you are always going to format it in camera immediately afterward, there is really no reason you have to eject it first. I always do anyway. I've had a large hdd disconnect which led to a fun problem where, to over simplify, all the data was still there but couldn't be read because the drive couldn't tell the OS where the files actually were located.

One case where it's been useful in the past, I had popped the card in the laptop, and had a quick look at some of the files before opening Lightroom and actually importing. Phone rang, got distracted, came back, and went to eject the card and it wouldn't eject because I had files open but minimized. I almost erased the card without importing to LR because I assumed I imported them hours ago, first thing, like I always do.

Another common thing, if you pull a card or a drive without ejecting, that is not formatted in one of Apples two file systems, you will often have a problem getting it to mount again. The OS will automatically try to check all files on the drive if it was last disconnected improperly, and this often hangs if it's not HFS or APFS. You can bring up your terminal and kill that process, allowing it to mount again, but this is actually much more effort than just ejecting in the first place.

And I guess lastly, it is in my experience also helpful because when a drive or card won't eject, I go looking for what process is accessing it and it's mostly just macOS indexing or building previews, but occasionally it's another reason to be mad at Adobe.

So, all of the above, none of that matters really if you're always 100% positive every time you got everything you need and there's absolutely no chance you'll want to put the card back in before formatting in-camera. I'm not here to tell you what to do, or exaggerate to try and convince you otherwise. It's just quick and easy to do and after a little while it becomes automatic like patting your pockets for phone / keys / wallet

Mar 02, 2024 at 02:30 AM

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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

Out of habit? Yes I eject my memory card from my Mac. When I don't? The computer "freaks out" and gives me a nasty gram reminder that "I improperly didn't eject my card"!

Mar 02, 2024 at 09:20 AM

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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

Q: What's the difference between Mac and PC users?

A: Mac users do what the computer tells them to do.

Mar 02, 2024 at 09:38 AM

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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

jcolwell wrote:
Q: What's the difference between Mac and PC users?

A: Mac users do what the computer tells them to do.

Windows doesn't tell you anything about it, so....

Mar 02, 2024 at 09:41 AM

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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

MDisbrow wrote:
If you are always going to format it in camera immediately afterward, there is really no reason you have to eject it first. I always do anyway. I've had a large hdd disconnect which led to a fun problem where, to over simplify, all the data was still there but couldn't be read because the drive couldn't tell the OS where the files actually were located.

One case where it's been useful in the past, I had popped the card in the laptop, and had a quick look at some of the files before opening Lightroom and actually importing. Phone rang,...Show more →

This is exactly what I was looking for. Perfect, thanks.

Mar 02, 2024 at 09:49 AM

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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

windows requires less explanation. it can also be customized to ones needs.

with a mac you don't make the choices.

the fact that you are asking that question makes it questionable.

the good thing is that you can install windows and dual boot via Apple Boot Camp

Mar 02, 2024 at 09:52 AM

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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

sjms wrote:
windows requires less explanation. it can also be customized to ones needs.

with a mac you don't make the choices.

the fact that you are asking that question makes it questionable.

the good thing is that you can install windows and dual boot via Apple Boot Camp

Boot Camp has been gone since Apple moved on from Intel. You may be able to run Win in a VM still, I don't know. I'm not up on Windows 10/11 and Arm support.

Windows definitely does have "Safely Remove Hardware" / eject, at least via the icon in the system tray. I have no idea to what extent that's necessary and I can't remember if Windows will bark at you for not using it. I have a fairly old dell laptop just to run specific software for working on Volkswagen.

I would think the amount of explanation necessary and ability to customize is just a direct result of familiarity. I can't find anything where I think it should be and there are certainly things I would like to get rid of or behavior I'd like to change in Windows but I can't see how. That's fine and to be expected because I use it so infrequently. I'm still looking for the old control panel from like 95 or maybe XP. With a new mac or any time I reinstall the OS, I can pull down a repo from github and with about 5 seconds of typing and a 10 minute wait everything is setup how I like it and 95% of the software I want is installed. Obviously this has to be possible to do with Windows in not exactly the same way so I'll learn only when I have to and eventually get used to it.

Mar 02, 2024 at 01:31 PM

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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

ah, you are correct. i did a Duh! i meant parallels VM for the M1 M2 M3

https://machow2.com/windows-on-m1-mac/

https://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/?utm_id=62180886

yes there is an option to use the hardware eject media on windows. note the word "option" i have not used it at all for quite a few years.

back in January i threw a new machine together. took 3 hours including the OS load. i chose my own poison. and it works great.

thinking of throwing TB4 ($89 card) on it but i have only one device that would actually use it at this point. and it works well on my laptop.

still don't use the eject option and no barking.

Mar 02, 2024 at 01:56 PM

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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

I think the most obvious answer is that if you (accidentally... actually, intentionally, in your case) remove it in this way prior to read/write finishing, you could lose images that aren't completely transferred. If you try to eject it before it's done, it gives a warning, which I'd assume would prompt you to allow it to finish. Seems to me ejecting it properly takes about as much time as checking to see if the copy is finished. Why risk it?

Mar 03, 2024 at 12:20 PM

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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

Windows did this. The legacy *safely remove hardware* button still exists. But when Windows moved the file system to NTFS from fat32, there was no longer a requirement to eject hardware with any real risk of corruption, so the default, system wide, is to not require devices to be ejected.

Even though almost all removable devices have moved to exFat, Mac OS, being Unix based, still hasn't gotten around to making this happen. You CAN corrupt an external drive by just pulling it from a Mac, even if it's not writing. Mac OS puts a temp file in place to let the Mac know the device is connected and this need to be deleted. Then you need the disk repair utility..... PITA.

Mostly it's not an issue for memory cards. More HDD's and SSD's.

It's daft. And it's a Mac thing. You acclimatise. Certainly, no worse than not having a touch screen option in 2024.....

Gordon

Mar 04, 2024 at 12:59 AM

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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

I always try to. But I'd say 30% of the time it never "ejects" or it tells it it has then gets angry when I pull the card

Mar 04, 2024 at 07:34 AM

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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

I never "eject" memory cards and never had problems. Just make sure you don't do it when it writes/read, if you do in works case scenario your data will be corrupted.

Mar 05, 2024 at 03:00 PM

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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

Simply force of habit. Decades of command+e

Mar 05, 2024 at 05:17 PM

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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

My import software does it for me after all the files have been downloaded. If it didn't then yes, always eject before yanking out of the reader.

Mar 05, 2024 at 08:12 PM

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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

I always eject my memory card before removal. If you take out a memory card from your Mac without first ejecting it, there is a chance that the files on the card might get damaged. Although you have not used any files from the card in some time, macOS could still be holding onto information in a buffer to write onto the card later. If you take out the card before it is done processing, this will cause loss of data and might damage the files on the card.

Mar 05, 2024 at 09:57 PM

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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

I don't have a good reason other than getting easily irritated by the "warning" message. I'm one of those weird people that doesn't even like having notifications on my phone and virtually always disable it in any application. I especially hate the little number for unread messages, emails etc.

Mar 06, 2024 at 05:58 PM

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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · Mac users: do you "eject" your memory cards?

40Driggs wrote:
I don't have a good reason other than getting easily irritated by the "warning" message. I'm one of those weird people that doesn't even like having notifications on my phone and virtually always disable it in any application. I especially hate the little number for unread messages, emails etc.

I went looking for how to disable it at the OS level and apparently they broke removing it in Sonoma

Mar 06, 2024 at 06:06 PM

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RoamingScott wrote:
I went looking for how to disable it at the OS level and apparently they broke removing it in Sonoma

That's annoying. I'm an apple fan, but I have to admit that their tendency to remove options for users can be frustrating.

Mar 07, 2024 at 12:08 AM

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