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Push1stop wrote:
From the rules- the last two are absolutely correct.
If a trick was a bail and not landed, the photo is trashed **UNLESS the spot is gone and or knobbed with no possibility of ever being skated again.. some tricks that are just too crazy and the mere fact that they were ever attempted made it an exception to the "must land" rule... a few people come to mind in this regard- Jaime Thomas's "Leap of faith" photo as well as Heath Kirchart had some stuff that was death defying as well.
The rest are pointers more than being set in stone.
Matt Price is notorious for leaving his flashes/strobes in the shot.
As far as wide angles, I personally had many photos ran in the mags with a 35mm as well as 24-70L zoomed out to 24mm.
For sure the bread and butter would be a fisheye and a 70-200 2.8... i loved my Nikkor 105 f/2 DC.
Your photos look good, the rim light on the BS 180 makes him pop out, a fisheye probably would have been what i would have used for that particular spot just because the background/foreground doesn't really add much to the photo.
The feeble looks good
The motion blur on the front board made a "smallish" rail look super interesting, really making the trick shine.
That 360flip (if that is what it is) is well timed.. the lighting is a tad flat for me when compared to what you were able to nail (lighting wise) in the first photo, other than that you made something that isnt that massive look huge.. again, making the trick and skater look great.
Good stuff!
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Thanks for the comments! I wasn't sure if there were any skateboard photographers lingering on these boards. You are totally right about the "rules"--we always found the enforcement rather funny, but in fact it was usually poor execution of a "rule" violation that caused most of the aggressive comments. For instance, when people would shoot something like a 24mm as a poor-man's fisheye or in a very snapshot-esque composition. I can think of a few really amazing and classic shots that were taken with a wide angle (but they were done with intentionality). I seem to remember a fs flip down a 4 block (Andrew Reynolds, maybe?) and a big handrail lipside (maybe also Andrew Reynolds?) that I'm pretty sure were shot in the 24-35mm range.
Matt Price is a good example of someone who got destroyed on the SBP.com boards when he first started. Partly, I think, because he took the craft really seriously and invested early in gear--had a Hasselblad, pocket wizards, and a hassy fisheye, because he wanted to be good and he knew that is what the best photographers used at the time. His skill didn't match up with his equipment at first, and you know how that can go with people sometimes. But he silenced those people pretty quickly, and after a year or two he was largely responsible for blowing up a lot of the dogma of the genre of photography. Either way, really interesting to have the conversations again. I could probably talk with skateboarders and skate photographers about photography for hours!
Regarding my photos in particular, I really appreciate the comments. The first one is actually an ollie, not a back 180. It might be hard to tell from the photo, but it is over the pole from the skinny runup ledge. It was a fun shot for me, because I casually mentioned it and he said "no way, that isn't possible from that runup." Then he did it first try. I wasn't set up exactly how I had wanted, but I did like the lighting. I do wonder what it would have looked like with fisheye.
The front board and 360 flip are the same guy. We are both in our mid-30s, and I've been getting back into skate photography after a long hiatus doing other things. He has kept skateboarding since we met in middle school. They aren't huge tricks, but he is amazing to shoot with because he is perfectly fine skating just for a photo whereas other guys always need the filmer crew to try something. As somebody who wouldn't dare hop on a handrail these days, I'm pretty impressed with somebody who would just casually front board a smallish rail as it is getting dark  .
I agree about the lighting on the 360 flip. I really struggle in very bright light that is largely coming straight on. The ambient isn't interesting, but the flashes have a hard time overpowering the sun. I see people execute it well, but I haven't really figured it out yet.
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