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Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses

  
 
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Speaking of Nikon Z adapters, which ones are the smallest?

I'm curious to see what the options are, it's another thing I would consider in case I'd switch to Nikon.
I like to keep the camera as compact as possible, and the option of using thin adapters is something I take into account.

I already see the Nikon F adapter is quite large. I hope there are slimmer alternatives for other mount systems.

On the Fuji, Leica-M combined with Voigtlander is as compact as it can get, and I love it.



Oct 29, 2023 at 12:29 AM
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pdesopo wrote:
Speaking of Nikon Z adapters, which ones are the smallest?

I'm curious to see what the options are, it's another thing I would consider in case I'd switch to Nikon.
I like to keep the camera as compact as possible, and the option of using thin adapters is something I take into account.

I already see the Nikon F adapter is quite large. I hope there are slimmer alternatives for other mount systems.

On the Fuji, Leica-M combined with Voigtlander is as compact as it can get, and I love it.


Sony FE is the smallest , you can use the Zeiss loxia lenses if you want MF , or for AF there are a few options. The Fuji X adapter is quite small also , but they aren’t FF lenses.



Oct 29, 2023 at 03:20 AM
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JustShootMe wrote:
Sony FE is the smallest , you can use the Zeiss loxia lenses if you want MF , or for AF there are a few options. The Fuji X adapter is quite small also , but they aren’t FF lenses.


Thanks for the info.
I'm all for MF lenses, can be old lenses too, which I actually like a lot.
I think the Pen Zuiko adapter should be thin too, but I'm only aware of the 38mm 1.8, whereas I'd look for 28mm, and maybe 24mm.



Oct 29, 2023 at 03:26 AM
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Not criticizing, just curious: what is the attraction of MF lenses when there are so many excellent AF options available at reasonable prices?

I do understand the appeal for unique and legacy lenses, just not for run of the mill optics.


I had to take some family pics yesterday so I grabbed my AF glass. It got the job done. When it came time to go out with the family and attend holiday events I grabbed my 55mm f/1.2 glass with my Zf and had a ton of fun shooting with it.The AF glass got the job done but I busted out the MF glass when I wanted to have fun shooting. That's the difference for me most of the time.

There are exceptions. I also shoot sports and wildlife and enjoy it but I'm not about to do that with MF glass either so it always depends on the situation.



Oct 29, 2023 at 05:30 AM
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pdesopo wrote:
Thanks for the info.
I'm all for MF lenses, can be old lenses too, which I actually like a lot.
I think the Pen Zuiko adapter should be thin too, but I'm only aware of the 38mm 1.8, whereas I'd look for 28mm, and maybe 24mm.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flange_focal_distance




Oct 29, 2023 at 06:33 AM
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JustShootMe wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flange_focal_distance



Thanks!

It seems there isn't much then. Basically, Leica-M, which I'm already using, Contax, and M39.
But I also took a second look a the Olympus Pen. On the Wikipedia page, there's a 35 mm. equivalent column:
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Olympus_Pen_F

I'm a little confused. Does that mean that a 20mm Pen will work as a 28mm on the Nikon Zf?



Oct 29, 2023 at 01:44 PM
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pdesopo wrote:
Thanks!

It seems there isn't much then. Basically, Leica-M, which I'm already using, Contax, and M39.
But I also took a second look a the Olympus Pen. On the Wikipedia page, there's a 35 mm. equivalent column:
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Olympus_Pen_F

I'm a little confused. Does that mean that a 20mm Pen will work as a 28mm on the Nikon Zf?


Looks like Pen F is half frame ... so a 20 would be 40mm, or maybe not looks like some cover more of the sensor than they are designed for.





Oct 29, 2023 at 01:49 PM
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pdesopo wrote:
Thanks!

It seems there isn't much then. Basically, Leica-M, which I'm already using, Contax, and M39.
But I also took a second look a the Olympus Pen. On the Wikipedia page, there's a 35 mm. equivalent column:
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Olympus_Pen_F

I'm a little confused. Does that mean that a 20mm Pen will work as a 28mm on the Nikon Zf?


Olympus PEN was a half-frame system so the lenses won’t have enough coverage for a full frame sensor. They make more sense on APS-C or MFT cameras.

The best options for MF glass without a lengthy adapter are Leica M, Sony E & Nikon Z mount (the latter from Voigtländer or one of the Chinese manufacturers).



Oct 29, 2023 at 01:55 PM
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JustShootMe wrote:
Looks like Pen F is half frame ... so a 20 would be 40mm, or maybe not looks like some cover more of the sensor than they are designed for.


20mm is always 20mm. The lens just wouldn't have an image circle large enough to be usable on a full frame sensor. If it did cover a full frame sensor, then it would be just as you expect 20mm to be. Full frame is the standard, so we only do FOV equivalency when going up or down in sensor size from full frame. For example, you'd say that a 20mm lens adapted to a smaller sensor would be 40mm equivalent FOV. Or using a 20mm on the larger GFX sensor would be like using a 16mm lens on full frame. But the focal length is always the focal length.



Oct 29, 2023 at 02:16 PM
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20mm is always 20mm. The lens just wouldn't have an image circle large enough to be usable on a full frame sensor. If it did cover a full frame sensor, then it would be just as you expect 20mm to be. Full frame is the standard, so we only do FOV equivalency when going up or down in sensor size from full frame. For example, you'd say that a 20mm lens adapted to a smaller sensor would be 40mm equivalent FOV. Or using a 20mm on the larger GFX sensor would be like using a 16mm lens on full frame.
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JustShootMe wrote:
Sony FE is the smallest , you can use the Zeiss loxia lenses if you want MF , or for AF there are a few options. The Fuji X adapter is quite small also , but they aren’t FF lenses.


This never crossed my mind! The Loxia line on the ZF! All superb lenses.



Oct 29, 2023 at 02:34 PM
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This never crossed my mind! The Loxia line on the ZF! All superb lenses.


I was wondering if the Loxias were ever made for any other mount than E. The little marketing page for the Loxia lenses says "ZEISS Loxia lenses are suitable for digital Sony Alpha cameras and have been optimized for film and sensors up to full 35 mm format (24 x 36 mm)". When it says "optimized for film", I wonder what that means. Not like there's an E mount film camera. Just a bad translation perhaps? I've never seen any mention of adapting Loxia to film shooting.



Oct 29, 2023 at 02:42 PM
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RoamingScott wrote:
I was wondering if the Loxias were ever made for any other mount than E. The little marketing page for the Loxia lenses says "ZEISS Loxia lenses are suitable for digital Sony Alpha cameras and have been optimized for film and sensors up to full 35 mm format (24 x 36 mm)". When it says "optimized for film", I wonder what that means. Not like there's an E mount film camera. Just a bad translation perhaps? I've never seen any mention of adapting Loxia to film shooting.


No there is another mount or application for them , I forgot .. trying to find the link.

https://www.zeiss.com/consumer-products/us/industrial-lenses/interlock-lenses.html









Oct 29, 2023 at 02:45 PM
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RoamingScott wrote:
I was wondering if the Loxias were ever made for any other mount than E. The little marketing page for the Loxia lenses says "ZEISS Loxia lenses are suitable for digital Sony Alpha cameras and have been optimized for film and sensors up to full 35 mm format (24 x 36 mm)". When it says "optimized for film", I wonder what that means. Not like there's an E mount film camera. Just a bad translation perhaps? I've never seen any mention of adapting Loxia to film shooting.


The initial Loxia lenses (35/2 and 50/2) were built based on their M-lenses (Biogon 35/2 ZM and Planar 50/2 ZM), with some adjustments to the optical design to adapt to the Sony sensor, which has a thicker stack. I'm curious about how the Loxia 21/2.8 performs on the Nikon sensor stack. Will it perform similarly, better, or worse? It's a lens with noticeable field curvature even on the Sony.



Oct 29, 2023 at 04:30 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
This never crossed my mind! The Loxia line on the ZF! All superb lenses.


Loxia would be good for filling in the focal length gaps left by the native Voigtlander Z manual focus lenses (21/25/85). Or one could just leave the E to Z adapter on the camera and use exclusively E-mount Voigtlander and Loxia, which would allow for a second high res Sony body like the A7CR alongside the Zf.



Oct 29, 2023 at 07:44 PM
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highdesertmesa wrote:
Loxia would be good for filling in the focal length gaps left by the native Voigtlander Z manual focus lenses (21/25/85). Or one could just leave the E to Z adapter on the camera and use exclusively E-mount Voigtlander and Loxia, which would allow for a second high res Sony body like the A7CR alongside the Zf.


Thought about grabbing the megadap adapter too , then you get all the exif data. It's a little pricey , but maybe one will pop up used.



Oct 30, 2023 at 10:31 AM
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JustShootMe wrote:
Thought about grabbing the megadap adapter too , then you get all the exif data. It's a little pricey , but maybe one will pop up used.


There is an used one at B&H (mint). Hurry!
Since there are electronics, the green confirmation may work with it and E-mount MF lenses.



Oct 30, 2023 at 10:50 AM
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There is an used one at B&H (mint). Hurry!
Since there are electronics, the green confirmation may work with it and E-mount MF lenses.


I think that's the older version , probably should buy the Loxia's first.. I have the CV 50 1.5 II , and 7A 75 1.25 arriving today. When will the sickness end



Oct 30, 2023 at 11:12 AM
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I have been going in circles for a close focus adapter for M to Z. Any insight into what to buy? Voigtlander is expensive and less travel than say a Shoten or Yeenon. 7artisans and fotodiox make cheaper ones but I'm not sure if I should pay the extra for a quality adapter.

Anyways, if anybody has thoughts on this I'd love to hear them.



Oct 30, 2023 at 11:27 AM
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Just ordered the Voigtlander 50 APO Z-mount from Camera Quest. I'll be interested to see how it compares to the M-mount version that I really enjoyed using on the M11 and SL2-S. I definitely will appreciate the much closer minimum focus distance along with the EXIF data and focus confirmation compatibility.

I'll probably get the Voigtlander 40 1.2 for Z next if this one works out well. I want the smaller 40 for travel and general use. Looks like it will be coming back into stock at Camera Quest "early November".



Oct 30, 2023 at 12:18 PM
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