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p.6 #1 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


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Thanks. The 7Artisans M-Z adapter looks about like the TTA adapter you own. I guess it might be worth getting a 6 bit M-Z.

Are you planning on keeping your Z40/2 due to its faster speed? Think street environments.


I will keep the 40 f/2. It’s crazy lightweight, has very fast and quiet autofocus, and has good IQ overall.



Oct 26, 2023 at 03:47 PM
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p.6 #2 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


I have the following Voigtländer lenses in M mount: 15mm f/4.5 v3, 28mm f/2 v2, 50mm f/1.2 & f/1.0 as well as the 75mm f/1.5. However, I haven't tried any Voigtländer in Z mount, so I can't tell you for instance how the 50mm f/1.0 in Z mount performs, which I personally would have liked to know. It would be great if it was in fact designed for the thicker sensor stack which would mitigate the outward field curvature it unfortunately has on its intended sensor.

Except for the 180mm Apo-Lanthar, I almost exclusively use the Z6UT with M lenses. One lens that I do think I see an issue with, is the Speedmaster 85mm f/1.2. With that lens I believe the inward field curvature is exaggerated with the thinner sensor glass. I haven't done a direct comparison, so not sure how much difference there is compared to the stock Z7 camera.

highdesertmesa wrote:
I’m curious if the Kolari UT mod has any drawbacks when used with Z mount Voigtlander lenses. Is the modded sensor best dedicated to native M lenses?




Oct 26, 2023 at 03:50 PM
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LarsHP wrote:
I have the following Voigtländer lenses in M mount: 15mm f/4.5 v3, 28mm f/2 v2, 50mm f/1.2 & f/1.0 as well as the 75mm f/1.5. However, I haven't tried any Voigtländer in Z mount, so I can't tell you for instance how the 50mm f/1.0 in Z mount performs, which I personally would have liked to know. It would be great if it was in fact designed for the thicker sensor stack which would mitigate the outward field curvature it unfortunately has on its intended sensor.

Except for the 180mm Apo-Lanthar, I almost exclusively use the Z6UT with M lenses.
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It looks like the outward field curvature is still present with the F1.0 in nikon mount. Below is a thread about it. Great lens but you can definitely see it.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1805730



Oct 26, 2023 at 03:56 PM
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p.6 #4 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Thanks.

I was thinking whether an UT modded Z camera with the 50/1.0 in Z mount would have a markedly flatter field than with the M mount version.

Hardcore wrote:
It looks like the outward field curvature is still present with the F1.0 in nikon mount. Below is a thread about it. Great lens but you can definitely see it.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1805730




Oct 26, 2023 at 04:05 PM
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p.6 #5 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Hardcore wrote:
It looks like the outward field curvature is still present with the F1.0 in nikon mount. Below is a thread about it. Great lens but you can definitely see it.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1805730


This was a characteristic of the optical design, and it won't disappear. However, it's highly probable that using the M-mount version on the Z body will amplify the native outwards field curvature even further, which was already quite pronounced and a concern for many shooters.



Oct 26, 2023 at 04:39 PM
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p.6 #6 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


I’m personally loving the Nikon Zf for adapting M-Mount lenses. I picked up the TTartisan 6-bit adapter and had to quickly update the firmware so it would work on the Zf. I also just picked up a Mr. Ding Noxlux 50mm f/1.1 lens off the Buy & Sell forum. Here’s a first shot at f/1.4 of my youngest daughter.




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Oct 26, 2023 at 09:38 PM
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p.6 #7 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


jbcameradesigns wrote:
I’m personally loving the Nikon Zf for adapting M-Mount lenses. I picked up the TTartisan 6-bit adapter and had to quickly update the firmware so it would work on the Zf. I also just picked up a Mr. Ding Noxlux 50mm f/1.1 lens off the Buy & Sell forum. Here’s a first shot at f/1.4 of my youngest daughter.


Very nice, that noxlux is on my list to acquire. Keep em' coming!



Oct 26, 2023 at 10:42 PM
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p.6 #8 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Zf / Laowa 45mm 0.95

Ain't this the life








Oct 26, 2023 at 10:42 PM
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p.6 #9 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


I'm getting very interested in the Zf.

I currently shoot on a Fuji X-Pro2, and I'm considering the Zf as a possible next camera.
But first, I'd need to figure out a few things about adapted lenses.

In the past few months, I got particularly fond of Voigtlander lenses. I got myself a Voigtlander Nokton 35mm f/1.4 II Multi-Coated, and then a Voigtlander 21mm f4 VM Colour Skopar, both in Leica-M mount as I mostly shoot street photography, and I love using manual lenses.

I think the 21mm might be not so great on the Zf due to the heavy vignetting on FF cameras, or so I heard. But that doesn't worry me, the 21mm would be too wide for my needs anyway. The 35mm perhaps will do fine.

But since the 28mm is my main interest, I also wonder how the Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Type II Aspherical could perform on the Zf, or even the Voigtlander ULTRON Vintage Line 28mm F2.0 Aspherical VM Type II. Any thoughts?

Besides that, I noticed in this thread Leica-M mount lenses have been mentioned, as well as the adapters for the Zf.
I was already looking into that, and at first, I thought I would get the K&F adapter. I got two K&F Leica-M to Fuji. They work great, and they also look nice. But here I noticed the TTartisan being mentioned. Is there any particular advantage with that adapter?

It would be very helpful to hear from existing Nikon shooters. I'm gathering as much information as possible, while I wait for the next possible X-Pro, so that I'll be ready to make a decision.
Of course, as soon as the Zf becomes available in the local store, I'll go check it firsthand.

This camera looks really tempting.



Oct 27, 2023 at 01:27 AM
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p.6 #10 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


I took some not very scientific shoots with my Color Skokap 35mm F2.5 LTM on my ZF yesterday. At a quick glance it looked good. Next week I'm gone try my 25mm Snapshot-Skopar and my brothers 21/4 if he brings it.

I have the Super Wide Heliar 15mm in Z mount and 20mm Color Skopar in F-mount so I haven't yet took the time for testing other lenses

I have a boring indoor close test from a year ago on a bookshelf with the Z6 and Voigtländer 15, 20, 21, 25 and Nikkor 24/2.0 AIs, bur I was only looking at center-midframe sharpness and the corners are bit dark. I can share it if it's of interest, but I'll do some infiniy testing next week.



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p.6 #11 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


jbcameradesigns wrote:
I’m personally loving the Nikon Zf for adapting M-Mount lenses. I picked up the TTartisan 6-bit adapter and had to quickly update the firmware so it would work on the Zf. I also just picked up a Mr. Ding Noxlux 50mm f/1.1 lens off the Buy & Sell forum. Here’s a first shot at f/1.4 of my youngest daughter.


So the adapter (inc focus confirmation) works with the latest firmware? That’s great news

Lovely picture as well!



Oct 27, 2023 at 04:41 AM
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p.6 #12 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Yes! I purchased a new TTartisan 6-bit adapter from Adorama on Monday. Arrived Wednesday and like a previous post in this thread shared…connected it to my Zf and the camera wouldn’t allow the shutter to fire and there was no focus indicator. I hooked the adapter up to my PC via USB-C to USB-A cable and there was only one txt file of gibberish on the main adapter folder. I downloaded the latest firmware off TTartisan website (BIN file). Moved the file over to the connected adapter drive…then ejected it. I mounted the adapter and Mr Ding lens to the Zf and it immediately functioned perfectly showing the green indicator box as soon as focus was acquired. On the picture of my daughter that I shared above, I put the small focus indicator box on her eye, manually adjusted the focus ring until the indicator box turned green and fired the shot. So cool!

This Nikon Zf, full frame with manual controls and unique innovative manual focus aids, has been my wish for Leica or Panasonic to release in L-mount (or wishful thinking in M-Mount with EVF). I applaud Nikon for the solid build, no ugly grip, brass dials, and unique manual focus aids. I’m loving it! And the powerful AF tech will work for my daughter’s indoor volleyball.


fjablo wrote:
So the adapter (inc focus confirmation) works with the latest firmware? That’s great news

Lovely picture as well!




Oct 27, 2023 at 06:36 AM
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p.6 #13 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


pdesopo wrote:
I'm getting very interested in the Zf.

I currently shoot on a Fuji X-Pro2, and I'm considering the Zf as a possible next camera.
But first, I'd need to figure out a few things about adapted lenses.

In the past few months, I got particularly fond of Voigtlander lenses. I got myself a Voigtlander Nokton 35mm f/1.4 II Multi-Coated, and then a Voigtlander 21mm f4 VM Colour Skopar, both in Leica-M mount as I mostly shoot street photography, and I love using manual lenses.

I think the 21mm might be not so great on the Zf due to the heavy vignetting on FF cameras,
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Two TTA adapters mentioned: super cheap dummy adapter (functions well for the price) and the smart adapter that allows for 6-bit code reading or manually dialing in the focal length on the adapter (allows for focus confirmation like an electronically connected lens). Any M adapter will do, though I’ve had more than one cheap adapter have sloppy/loose operation on other systems, so I tend to be leery of them. And there’s always the risk of a bad adapter getting stuck to your lens. I just like the cheap TTA because on more than one system they have given me very close to infinity focus right near or at the hard stop of the lens. I have had good luck with Kipon adapters across multiple mounts. Novoflex can be good construction, however the ones I’ve had run short and the lenses will hit infinity focus very far before the hard stop of the lens. I had one Novoflex that worked ok with some lenses but was too tight for another. After that, I stopped buying them as they’re very expensive.



Oct 27, 2023 at 06:42 AM
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jbcameradesigns wrote:
Yes! I purchased a new TTartisan 6-bit adapter from Adorama on Monday. Arrived Wednesday and like a previous post in this thread shared…connected it to my Zf and the camera wouldn’t allow the shutter to fire and there was no focus indicator. I hooked the adapter up to my PC via USB-C to USB-A cable and there was only one txt file of gibberish on the main adapter folder. I downloaded the latest firmware off TTartisan website (BIN file). Moved the file over to the connected adapter drive…then ejected it. I mounted the adapter and Mr Ding lens to the
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Do you own a lens that is not one of the typical focal lengths ? Like a CV 40mm 1.4 or 1.2 on m mount. Does that focus correctly if you set the adapter to 35mm since there is no 40mm setting ?



Oct 27, 2023 at 09:29 AM
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p.6 #15 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


I don’t have a 40mm yet, but my understanding is that it won’t affect focus. If you mount a 40mm lens, but have the setting on the TTA adapter set to “35mm”, then the EXIF data will say the 35mm and the IBIS will behave like a 35mm lens is adapted.

Others chime in if I’m wrong.

Thanks,
J.B.

JustShootMe wrote:
Do you own a lens that is not one of the typical focal lengths ? Like a CV 40mm 1.4 or 1.2 on m mount. Does that focus correctly if you set the adapter to 35mm since there is no 40mm setting ?




Oct 27, 2023 at 10:26 AM
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p.6 #16 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


jbcameradesigns wrote:
I don’t have a 40mm yet, but my understanding is that it won’t affect focus. If you mount a 40mm lens, but have the setting on the TTA adapter set to “35mm”, then the EXIF data will say the 35mm and the IBIS will behave like a 35mm lens is adapted.

Others chime in if I’m wrong.

Thanks,
J.B.



I'm wondering if the focus confirmation will be off ? Guess we will find out soon enough , adapter is out for delivery now.



Oct 27, 2023 at 10:39 AM
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JustShootMe wrote:
I'm wondering if the focus confirmation will be off ? Guess we will find out soon enough , adapter is out for delivery now.


Generally PDAF does not need to know the lens focal length in order to function properly.



Oct 27, 2023 at 11:11 AM
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p.6 #18 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


highdesertmesa wrote:
Two TTA adapters mentioned: super cheap dummy adapter (functions well for the price) and the smart adapter that allows for 6-bit code reading or manually dialing in the focal length on the adapter (allows for focus confirmation like an electronically connected lens).[...]


Thanks for the explanation!
I see. So, the smart adapter would be the only one that would allow for focus confirmation while using manual lenses.
That's the part where I was confused. I guess with a regular adapter the focus confirmation wouldn't work then.
From the videos around it's not clear. I thought it would work regardless of the adapter used.




Oct 27, 2023 at 11:30 AM
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p.6 #19 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


I dunno much about Leica M lenses, but was looking at a few and was surprised at how compact they are. I looked at the M to Z adapter and that is tiny as well. Seems like anyone that already has and enjoys their M glass might be interested in adapting them to the ZF if the body holds any appeal to them.


Oct 27, 2023 at 11:47 AM
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RoamingScott wrote:
I dunno much about Leica M lenses, but was looking at a few and was surprised at how compact they are. I looked at the M to Z adapter and that is tiny as well. Seems like anyone that already has and enjoys their M glass might be interested in adapting them to the ZF if the body holds any appeal to them.


If one wants to stay on the affordable side while getting good quality, for me, Voigtlander is the way to go.
They're very compact, have good glass, and clear distance marks. Some have the focusing tab, which is very handy.
On my Fuji is a great combo. I hope they work fine on the Zf too, that would make the transition easier.



Oct 27, 2023 at 11:54 AM
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