p.50 #1 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
MikeRZ67 wrote:
I'm considering a Zf or Z5II for my Cosina VM lenses. My understanding is that I get focus peaking, magnification and the green confirmation box on eyes/objects even when I don't use an AF adapter. Is that right? Or does the confirmation box only work for chipped MF lenses like the ones Cosina makes natively for Z-mount?
The latter: only with chipped lenses.
However, you can get the TTartisan 6bit adapter which enables that functionality for M mount lenses.
Easiest would be painting 6bit codes on your VM lenses then you wouldn’t even have to manually select the focal length on the adapter.
p.50 #2 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
I have an M11 and Fuji system, but I may want to replace the Fuji with a full frame with AF so I can just have M mount lenses. Manual focus on M11 and AF on the other system, let's say a Zf here.
I went thru the last 10 pages of this thread. But I am still unclear about a couple things:
1. Is TechArt TZM AF performance acceptable for purely M mount lenses (assuming not 6-bit coded)? Will I get green box confirmation too?
2. TTArtisan 6-bit adapter is not AF, but will it give green box confirmation for non 6-bit coded M mount lenses?
p.50 #3 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
I have the TTArtisan 6-bit adapter and it definitely does give the green box confirmation for non-6-bit coded lenses. You just select the focal length with the dial which tells the camera what settings to use for IBIS, but even if that's wrong you'll still get the green box.
p.50 #4 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
I use the TechArt TZM adapter on my Zf. Because there are no electronic contacts on the M lens, the cameras F stop setting goes unused. There is a small chart that comes with the adapter that associates the size of the lens with an aperture number that can be set on the camera.
For example, if you are using a 50mm lens you set the F stop in the small LCD screen on top of the Zf to 1.8. This tells the adapter what size lens you are using, allows the camera to use the right IBIS settings, adds the correct lens size to the EXIF data and gives the green confirmation box.
With the v2.00 firmware you can add a lens name to the non-CPU lens list. I add the adapters F stop value to the lens name as a reminder... ie. Thypoch 28mm 1.4 [2.5]
p.50 #5 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Thanks for this info!
How is the AF working out for you? let's say with the heavier 50mm lenses (with brass, medium focus throw), is the AF speed still acceptable?
I am not expecting Sony-like speed.
And if we don't enter the lens/aperture info, the green box confirmation will not come out?
Flying Oyster wrote:
I use the TechArt TZM adapter on my Zf. Because there are no electronic contacts on the M lens, the cameras F stop setting goes unused. There is a small chart that comes with the adapter that associates the size of the lens with an aperture number that can be set on the camera.
For example, if you are using a 50mm lens you set the F stop in the small LCD screen on top of the Zf to 1.8. This tells the adapter what size lens you are using, allows the camera to use the right IBIS settings, adds the correct lens size to the EXIF data and gives the green confirmation box.
With the v2.00 firmware you can add a lens name to the non-CPU lens list. I add the adapters F stop value to the lens name as a reminder... ie. Thypoch 28mm 1.4 [2.5]...Show more →
p.50 #6 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
I've used the lens with the Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 and it was pretty good. However, weirdly enough after a weekend of heavy usage, it stopped working for a bit and now works again flawlessly.
Nick YR wrote:
Thanks for this info!
How is the AF working out for you? let's say with the heavier 50mm lenses (with brass, medium focus throw), is the AF speed still acceptable?
I am not expecting Sony-like speed.
And if we don't enter the lens/aperture info, the green box confirmation will not come out?
p.50 #7 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Finally I sold off my Fuji X-T5 with all the lenses, to get the Nikon Zf.
I will only use M-mount lenses with Zf together with TechArt ZM-02 adapter.
For those who are using the same setup, did you put the lens aperture setting in camera to get the lens correction setting right? For example, F1.8 for 50mm lenses, F2.2 for 35mm lenses?
p.50 #9 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Nick YR wrote:
Finally I sold off my Fuji X-T5 with all the lenses, to get the Nikon Zf.
I will only use M-mount lenses with Zf together with TechArt ZM-02 adapter.
For those who are using the same setup, did you put the lens aperture setting in camera to get the lens correction setting right? For example, F1.8 for 50mm lenses, F2.2 for 35mm lenses?
You pretty much have to. If you have IBIS turned on but the wrong focal length setting, you could get blurry pictures as the camera compensates too much.
p.50 #11 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
So I just started a thread about this and found this one. So apologies for anyone seeing the other thread but I guess there are more people here.
So my question is why does the zf need a chipped adaptor in this case when you can set the lens focal length on the camera itself. As far as I can tell that TTartisan (and I have one on the way) is just communicating the focal length or is there more going on?
At the moment I'm using M mount cine lenses but these are not rangefinder coupled of course and so there's not going to be any feedback on focus position either.
p.50 #12 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
paulinventome wrote:
So I just started a thread about this and found this one. So apologies for anyone seeing the other thread but I guess there are more people here.
So my question is why does the zf need a chipped adaptor in this case when you can set the lens focal length on the camera itself. As far as I can tell that TTartisan (and I have one on the way) is just communicating the focal length or is there more going on?
At the moment I'm using M mount cine lenses but these are not rangefinder coupled of course and so there's not going to be any feedback on focus position either.
Kindest
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From what I’ve read is there’s more to accurate focus reporting than focal length…which is more useful for exif data and optimal IBIS operation. What the lens needs to is report the lens pupil exit distance to the camera so the focus aids work accurately. It sort or works without this using a chipped adapter but it may not be accurate.
Nikon could allow the focus aids to work without enough data being provided by the lens but they have chosen not to whether for technical or marketing reasons.
p.50 #14 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
So if the adaptor is sending exit pupil position then the dial on the TT adaptor would work only for the actual M mount lenses it was calibrated with, but if you switch to 35mm, is that a summllux or a cron as both would have different positions, let alone a different m mount 35mm.
In all cases though, this is just data, there's no reason Nikon can't allow you to choose on the camera what the lens is. I'd wondered whether the adaptors were rangefinder coupled so focus position could be reported back to the camera but pretty sure it isn't.
I'd read that the dandelion chips could work (with EF adaptors) so M to EF to Z (but stacking adaptors is not ideal) and I am pretty sure those aren't reporting exit pupil characteristics but I don't know for sure.
>I thought focus aid has nothing to do with lens data. I can mount a dummy adapter and the camera still shows the green square when the lens is in focus.
And the reason for my question is this confusion because I'm sure I was a green focus aid *and* the little arrows with a dumb adaptor and a non Leica M mount lens (Simera-C lenses) but had read that it wouldn't work.
p.50 #15 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
paulinventome wrote:
So if the adaptor is sending exit pupil position then the dial on the TT adaptor would work only for the actual M mount lenses it was calibrated with, but if you switch to 35mm, is that a summllux or a cron as both would have different positions, let alone a different m mount 35mm.
In all cases though, this is just data, there's no reason Nikon can't allow you to choose on the camera what the lens is. I'd wondered whether the adaptors were rangefinder coupled so focus position could be reported back to the camera but pretty sure it isn't.
I'd read that the dandelion chips could work (with EF adaptors) so M to EF to Z (but stacking adaptors is not ideal) and I am pretty sure those aren't reporting exit pupil characteristics but I don't know for sure.
>I thought focus aid has nothing to do with lens data. I can mount a dummy adapter and the camera still shows the green square when the lens is in focus.
And the reason for my question is this confusion because I'm sure I was a green focus aid *and* the little arrows with a dumb adaptor and a non Leica M mount lens (Simera-C lenses) but had read that it wouldn't work.
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Paul...Show more →
This is weird. A lot of people have complained the focus box doesn’t confirm focus with non chipped lens with adapters that don’t spoof lens data (fool the camera there’s a chipped lens attached). My pre-AI lenses don’t turn the focus box green, I have to either use focus peaking or better, 400% zoom.
p.50 #19 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
It took me two days to read the whole thread from the beginning
I'm having moderate to severe acute symptoms of GAS right now. I already have multiple systems but I ruled it out to myself, Zf won't hurt else than my wallet. Despite the facts I envy for resolution (Zf is only 24 mpx) and I hate electronic viewfinders (Zf has one).
Any rumours of higher resolution Zf "Mark II" out there?
p.50 #20 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Clivem2 wrote:
This is weird. A lot of people have complained the focus box doesn’t confirm focus with non chipped lens with adapters that don’t spoof lens data (fool the camera there’s a chipped lens attached). My pre-AI lenses don’t turn the focus box green, I have to either use focus peaking or better, 400% zoom.
I use my pre-AI lenses on my ZF by sticking them on a dumb F-M adapter, on top of a TTartisan 6-bit M-Z adapter. Manual focus and green box confirmation works wonderfully.
