p.47 #6 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Nice, I don't think I can beat that!
My oldest is a Zeiss Jena Biotar 5.8cm F2 from around 1949-1950 based on the serial.
MF on this camera has been a joy compared to Sony, Im seriously considering slowly replacing my non Zeiss Batis Sony glass with M mount equivalents. My first M mount lens was the Zeiss 35/1.4 which is an amazing lens, the 50/1.5 is also on my list along with the CV 28/1.5 though that one might have to be native mount
p.47 #7 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
RoamingScott wrote:
Are you doing the F > M, M > Z stack to pull that off?
No I have the Neewer ETZ Pro Z-> E mount adapter. I then have a NEX->EK adapter stacked. Works really well.
The Neewer adapter also has the same result when stacked with a E-PK and E-M42 adapter for my old Pentax glass.
I think the Neewer is the funart one in the US?
Im seriously trying to resist the Techart Z-M adapter for the autofocus capabilities that it brings. I really enjoy the MF side, much more than I thought I would, my wife has absolutely no patience for it so having AF on vintage glass would sort that out on the days where we are out together. I usually just switch back to my Sony and take an AF lens out for the day currently.
p.47 #8 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
wastedimages wrote:
No I have the Neewer ETZ Pro Z-> E mount adapter. I then have a NEX->EK adapter stacked. Works really well.
The Neewer adapter also has the same result when stacked with a E-PK and E-M42 adapter for my old Pentax glass.
I think the Neewer is the funart one in the US?
Im seriously trying to resist the Techart Z-M adapter for the autofocus capabilities that it brings. I really enjoy the MF side, much more than I thought I would, my wife has absolutely no patience for it so having AF on vintage glass would sort that out on the days where we are out together. I usually just switch back to my Sony and take an AF lens out for the day currently.
p.47 #9 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
RoamingScott wrote:
I've thought about playing with the Techart with an M CV 40/1.2 just for fun.
If I do it I will probably get the M CV Nokton 40mm F1.4 for fun and to test as it is smaller and lighter and half the price 2nd hand. I see the F1.2 version as more a native lens for me, though if the adapter works as well as claimed, that might change as AF is useful, and I really don't need fast AF
p.47 #11 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
wolfloid wrote:
How well does this work? Would it work well with my Sony GM 35mm f1.4?
I wouldn't like to say as I don't have that lens. For me, Neewer ETZ Pro Z-> E mount adapter is for my manual glass and it is very good for that. I have adpated Pentax, Leica M, Oly, and Focus confirmation with the green box has worked for every vintage lens I have tried.
For AF, it was a mixed bag for my Zeiss Batis primes, the 25/F2 worked, my 40/2 didn't work at all.
I can confirm that all my Batis lenses work using AF with the Megadap adapter though..
p.47 #12 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
RoamingScott wrote:
I've thought about playing with the Techart with an M CV 40/1.2 just for fun.
Ha, well that lasted, my infamous willpower failed me again.
I have ordered the techart adapter, will report back here on how it performs.
I hope it is better built than the TTartisan M-Z 6 bit, I have a little bit of play at the lens mount on that one that drives me up the wall.
p.47 #13 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
wastedimages wrote:
I wouldn't like to say as I don't have that lens. For me, Neewer ETZ Pro Z-> E mount adapter is for my manual glass and it is very good for that. I have adpated Pentax, Leica M, Oly, and Focus confirmation with the green box has worked for every vintage lens I have tried.
For AF, it was a mixed bag for my Zeiss Batis primes, the 25/F2 worked, my 40/2 didn't work at all.
I can confirm that all my Batis lenses work using AF with the Megadap adapter though..
Does the Neewer work with IBIS as well as provide focus confirmation?
p.47 #15 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Paul Z wrote:
While you miss focus confirmation, the upside is you can use the aperture ring normally with the FTZ.
With ZF.2 lenses, the camera will tell you to move the physical aperture ring to the minimum, and then you have to control aperture on the body. Though, ZF.2 owners could always use a dumb adapter to use like a ZF lens.
Alternatively, you can use the funmount etz with a f-mount to e-mount stacked. You program (edit textfile) the funmount with the focal length of the ZF lens and then you can have focus confirmation and manual aperture control on the lens. The best of both worlds. But you would have to edit the file on the adapter each time you changed focal lengths.
BastianK shows this can be done with a smartphone (Android atleast).
thanks Paul for the info and the link. It would be great if there was an adapter where you could set the focal lenght like with the 6 Bit M to Z.
I really am used to operate the aperture on the lens, and don't like to use the ZF.2 lenses much because of that. Very old school . Never though of dumbing down the ZF.2.
p.47 #16 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
I brought the ZF along for an after-dinner walk with my girlfriend today at dusk.
When it comes to manual focusing, I vastly prefer the ZF experience over my Leica M10 (the only M-series camera I've owned). The brighter viewfinder in low light and superior focus box(imo) make the ZF noticeably better than the M10 for precise focusing.
That said, I can't stand how the ZF feels in hand. It carries unnecessary bulk and heft - if Nikon could eliminate the hump, trim down the width slightly, and streamline the top controls, I'd swap my M10 for it in a heartbeat.
p.47 #17 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Ssnycshoot wrote:
I brought the ZF along for an after-dinner walk with my girlfriend today at dusk.
When it comes to manual focusing, I vastly prefer the ZF experience over my Leica M10 (the only M-series camera I've owned). The brighter viewfinder in low light and superior focus box(imo) make the ZF noticeably better than the M10 for precise focusing.
That said, I can't stand how the ZF feels in hand. It carries unnecessary bulk and heft - if Nikon could eliminate the hump, trim down the width slightly, and streamline the top controls, I'd swap my M10 for it in a heartbeat.
I agree on the bulk and heft. For me it's not so much the viewfinder bump, but I think the main problem is that the camera is too thick. If Nikon didn't add things like the flippy screen, cooling for video, etc etc I'm sure the camera could have been thinner which would do wonders for it's handling.
I'd love it if it was the size of the Zfc, which would mean it'd have to be thinner, shorter, and narrower.
p.47 #18 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
specLegacy wrote:
I made it through this very informative thread to finally conclude that I'll just stick with my X-Pro2 and X-Pro3 with Fujifilm X-mount Voigtlander lenses for now.
Can you say more about your thought process? Are you sticking with Fujifilm because you already have it?
p.47 #19 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
I do already have a decent Fujifilm system, so I'll admit there is definitely some inertia there. The main draw for me with a full frame camera is to adapt my collection of Olympus OM and Konica AR lenses because I've preferred manual focus lenses over autofocus for a while. I've tried a few Sony A7 cameras over the past few years, but manual focusing with them was never as satisfying as with the Fujis. I like the way Fuji's focus peaking better, and Sony's magnification punches in too far making it hard to follow a moving subject. I also highly prefer having the dedicated shutter speed, ISO, and Exposure dials.
I was hoping the ZF might be the ideal manual focus camera, especially with its additional manual focus aids. However, there are still some things about it that I feel would bother me.
- the Z mount has the shortest flange distance of any of the current mirrorless mounts, meaning it requires the thickest adapters. I've gotten used to the smaller X-mount lenses as well.
- the body is bigger than I'd like. Would have been nice to have it the size of an FM2 or ZFc
- everything turns the opposite direction to what I'm used to - focus ring, mounting and removing lenses, shutter speed dial
- from the videos I've seen, Nikon's focus peaking is similar to Sony's implementation
- focus confirmation only works with chipped lenses, but I'm not convinced that this isn't an artificial limitation to discourage using third party lenses
I'm also curious what the rumored Canon vintage-styled camera and the Leica M-mount camera with EVF are like.
p.47 #20 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
These AF booster companies are deliberately sabotaging the art of manual focus for purely commercial reasons, greed effectively. Who would not enjoy a spin dial that enlarged magnification at shot time, or a menu to enter your exact magnification ratios, and the numbers of steps? A pox on their houses.