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Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


During my photography outing today, I decided to put the Leica 35/1.4 Summilux Steel Rim, Voigtlander 35/1.4 II SC, LLL 35/2 8-Element, and MS Optics 36/1.3 Apollon to the test. I covered various distances, ranging from 0.7 meters to 3-5 meters. I even tried capturing scenes with backlight to see how these lenses handle flare.

These lenses are my top picks for 35mm lenses with a 'classic' rendering style. They bring out unique qualities like glow, SA (spherical aberration), outlining, flare, and all those wonderful characteristics that give a classic look, especially when shooting wide open.













Leica 35/1.4 Steel Rim, MS Optics 36/1.3 Apollon, Voigtlander 35/1.4 II SC Nocton, LLL "Leica" 35/2 8-Element replica



Without further ado, here are the images. I've included the EXIF data to make it easier for you to compare which lens was used for each shot. I'll kick things off at f/1.4 and then incorporate the LLL 35/2.8 8-Element for the f/2 comparisons.

Scene 1:
f/1.4

The Leica and Voigtlander rendering is similar aside from the 'tint' variation while the Apollon provides a bit more blur and it's the least contrasty lens.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/1000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/1000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 09, 2023 at 01:38 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 1:
f/2

Similar rendering. The LLL 35/2 8-Element seems to be slightly wider. It also produces a bit less blur when all lenses are compared at f/2. There is some variation in color rendering (tint) as well.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/750s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/750s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/750s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    LLL 35mm f/2 Summicron 8-Element lens    35mm    f/5.6    1/500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 09, 2023 at 01:39 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 2:
f/1.4

The Voigtlander outputs the most contrast followed by the Leica and Apollon which renders the most character wide open.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/3000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/1000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 09, 2023 at 01:41 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 2:
f/2

Similar classic rendering between the lenses. The Voigtlander is the most corrected.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    LLL 35mm f/2 Summicron 8-Element lens    35mm    f/5.6    1/1000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 09, 2023 at 01:43 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 3:
f/1.4

At MFD, all three lenses rendering similarly. The distance was 0.75m which is the closest I can focus with my Leica 35/1.4 SR copy which was modified to focus closer.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 09, 2023 at 01:43 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 3:
f/2

Similar rendering with the LLL lens being a bit wider than the others.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    LLL 35mm f/2 Summicron 8-Element lens    35mm    f/5.6    1/3000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 09, 2023 at 01:44 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 4:
f/1.4

I prefer the slightly rounder highlights on the Voigtlander here.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 09, 2023 at 01:45 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 4:
f/2

Again, less blur for the LLL which is wide open. I see more barrel distortion for the Apollon but otherwise similar rendering.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/3000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/3000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/3000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    LLL 35mm f/2 Summicron 8-Element lens    35mm    f/5.6    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 09, 2023 at 01:46 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 5:
f/1.4

Similar rendering with a bit more glow on the Leica.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 09, 2023 at 01:47 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 5:
f/2




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/1000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/1000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/1000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    LLL 35mm f/2 Summicron 8-Element lens    35mm    f/5.6    1/750s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 6:
f/1.4




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/3000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/3000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/3000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 6:
f/2




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/3000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    LLL 35mm f/2 Summicron 8-Element lens    35mm    f/5.6    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 7:
f/2

More glow for the Leica and Apollon. The Voigtlander is always better corrected for SA.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 7:
f/2




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    LLL 35mm f/2 Summicron 8-Element lens    35mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 8:
f/1.4

Surprise here. The Leica has the better flare resistance in this scene. I tested this 3 times switching lenses and got the same results. Also, the Leica had a B+W UV filter while the others didn't have any filter.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 8:
f/2

Stopping down to f/2 makes most of the flare disappear, except for the LLL which is wide open. The Voigtlander has slightly less optical vignetting compared to the other lenses. (bokeh balls are rounder towards the edges)




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    LLL 35mm f/2 Summicron 8-Element lens    35mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 9:
f/1.4

At this distance (4m) I see a bit more glow for the Apollon. The Voigtlander always show images with a greener tint.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 9:
f/2

All three lenses improve significantly from f/1.4 to f/2. Almost like having 2 lenses in one. The LLL is wide open and also improves at f/2.8 but to a lesser degree.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/4.0    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    LLL 35mm f/2 Summicron 8-Element lens    35mm    f/5.6    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 10:
f/1.4

Managed to get ugly ghosting for all three lenses.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/1.7    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/1500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 09, 2023 at 01:56 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Rendering: Leica 35/1.4 Lux SR, CV 35/1.4, LLL 35/2, Apollon 36/1.3


Scene 10:
f/2

Stopping down to f/2 reduces the flare significantly for all faster lenses. The LLL is wide open at f/2 and shows some ghosting.




  LEICA M10-R    Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens    35mm    f/2.8    1/500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/5.6    1/500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton Classic lens    35mm    f/2.4    1/500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    LLL 35mm f/2 Summicron 8-Element lens    35mm    f/5.6    1/500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 09, 2023 at 01:57 PM
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