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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Nikon D4 in 2023


Hi forum,
I have a question regarding the performance of the D4 is it still a good camera in 2023? My gear now is D7200 with a some dx lenses, but I have also 50mm f/1.8 FX lens which will be my primary lens for the D4. After that I think to buy 24-70 f/2.8 or 70-200 f/2.8 but i will decide on that later. I am looking for a second body which I will use in low light situations. Mirrorless for me is not an option because I like the feeling from the DSLR viewfinder. I like the looks, ergonomics, the long battery life and the low price in D4 but my concern is the dynamic range of the camera.
What are your suggestions on that topic?
P.S. sorry if I have mistakes English is not my native language.



May 17, 2023 at 04:32 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Nikon D4 in 2023


i had the D4 and D4s. my daughter has my D7200 these days which i do miss using

if i was in your mindset i would go for a D4s. there are more than a few detail differences between the 2 versions.

https://photographylife.com/nikon-d4s-vs-d4

group AF being a biggie along with its improved ISO sensitivity (lower light work)

in addition if you are going to use XQD cards. it will leverage their speed to consume the data off them vs the D4. the D4 was the first camera to use the XQD and XQD was starting at the top end of CF at about avg150MBs. with the D4s the throughput capability went up quite a bit. neither one can use CFexpress B

as to my your D7200 i see it as one of the best DX bodies Nikon cobbled together. good clean output from its highly capable/mobile body sort of sorry my daughter has it but at least its safe

the D4s was my last big body FX for awhile as i went to the DX D500 which served me very well for my needs of the time. and, that D7200 was its backup on the job

Addendum: as of Dec 2021 i went back to the big body with the Z9. it is a scary good piece of work from them. i see these as what they are they are tools of the trade, nothing personal.

sample shots:





  NIKON D4S    95mm    1/200s    16000 ISO  






  NIKON D4S    112mm    1/1000s    100 ISO  






  NIKON D4S    24.0-120.0 mm f/4.0 lens    58mm    f/5.6    1/160s    25600 ISO    0.0 EV  




May 17, 2023 at 06:15 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Nikon D4 in 2023


If you are sticking to DSLRs, I think you would be doing yourself a favor by trying to get into a D5, if your budget allows for it - the autofocus got quite a dramatic improvement from the D4 and you get the bump up to 20MP which is still on the low side but better than 16. If you are flexible on form factor, you might also want to consider a D850 as it has the same AF as the D5, plenty of resolution, and is the (low ISO) DR king in the DSLR world.

As for DR, it depends where in the range you want it. Here are the measurements for the D4, D5, and D850 just for comparison sake:

https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Nikon%20D4,Nikon%20D5,Nikon%20D850

You can see the D850 clearly has the most low ISO DR, the D5 has the most high ISO DR (3200 and up), and the D4 is in the middle for low ISO DR, but matches the D850 from ~ISO 1200 and up.

I hear you on the viewfinder comment - I stuck to DSLRs longer than most for that same reason. If you haven't already, you may want to try out a Z8/Z9 just to see what the EVF is like as they are quite different from other EVFs. Compared to other mirrorless cameras, they are about ~3 times brighter and are truly blackout free, which really helps bridge the gap for people like you and me who really like DSLR viewfinders. Just a thought anyway, especially since your lens investment appears to be small it would be an easier transition.

If you have your heart set on a D4, it's still a great camera, the biggest thing you will be missing out on compared toa D5/D6 is the big leap in autofocus performance, but that's not to say the D4 is bad.



May 17, 2023 at 12:27 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Nikon D4 in 2023


@sjms, CanadaMark, Thank you very much for the responses, really appreciate
About the D7200, I will stay with it for sure it is an amazing camera. To be honest I start with mirrorless nex6, then I upgrade to A7III, but due to financial reasons last year I sold them with all the gear which I used to own. And in the end of last year I decide to buy something cheap and the only option was dslr and I chose D7200, when I first shoot with it I was amazed by the image quality and the colours. On top of that was the viewfinder it was love at first sight. I felt really disappointed because I never used DSLR camera before because all of my friends had mirrorless Sony cameras and as a beginner I stuck with a brand and camera type like my friends. Now I am a little sad because dslr technology is almost coming to an end, but I will stay with it as much as I can. I am sure that newer z8 and z9 are amazing cameras, but they are really expensive in my country (also here in Europe) D850 is my dream camera but it still very expensive for a hobbyist like me. D4s, D5 and the almighty D6 are very expensive as well. I found D4 with under 100K shutter count for about (around) 900 usd. For sure in future I will upgrade to mirrorless and definitely will be Nikon and will be stacked sensor z8/9, due to the lack of blackout(which I really hated in my Sony cameras). Once again, thank you very much!



May 17, 2023 at 01:07 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Nikon D4 in 2023


Haven't used these but the d7200 is a pretty impressive looking camera, especially since it's fairly inexpensive, comparatively.

Generally any decade old camera is a good camera imo. I don't think that the D4 breaks that rule. I'm not sure how much DR you're going to get at high iso. D series numbers not so high on Bill Claff's site. The big DR numbers are at lower ISO's, probably by definition. How often are you planning on using the D4 at iso <400? How much did you need?



May 18, 2023 at 11:29 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Nikon D4 in 2023


Unless you are of mature age and this is perhaps one of the last cameras you will buy, I would argue that is is better to make the transition into MILC. You will get used to the viewfinder pretty quick, I highly doubt you will look back after that.


May 18, 2023 at 11:48 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Nikon D4 in 2023


The D4 remains a monster performer with considerable mass and build quality. The pixels are big with deep sensor wells, so plenty of dynamic range, and the high ISOs are excellent. I own a fleet of Nikon bodies for comparison: D300, D3X, D4, D5100, D7100, D500, Z6. The potential drawbacks: sheer mass, older MultiCAM focus tech, fewer MP, fixed rear LCD, shutter too noisy for some venues:



D4, 70-200/2.8E wide open



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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Nikon D4 in 2023


I still love the D4 (even though I now also have the Z9).

—Peter.




May 18, 2023 at 07:45 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Nikon D4 in 2023


My 17 yo son is making pocket money in sports photography with my D4. It's an excellent camera.


May 19, 2023 at 11:34 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Nikon D4 in 2023


Shot an event with the D4 and D5 last night for a quick $500


May 19, 2023 at 03:14 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Nikon D4 in 2023


I got out of photography about 4 years ago selling everything off and a few months ago decided
to jump back in. Having never shot a pro body I decided I wanted to and with F-Mount used prices
so cheap it wasn't going to be the Z9. Being I had to buy all new glass I decided to keep a budget on the body and that
allowed me to get a mint D4. I've been loving it and although I last shot the D500, D810, and DF, I'm really
enjoying the experience this body is giving me. I'll still probably get a D6 in the near future and
give my 14yo son who has finally taken a interest in the hobby the D4.






  NIKON D4    300.0 mm f/2.8 lens    300mm    f/2.8    1/4000s    140 ISO    -0.3 EV  






  NIKON D4    300.0 mm f/2.8 lens    300mm    f/2.8    1/2000s    1250 ISO    +0.7 EV  






  NIKON D4    300.0 mm f/2.8 lens    300mm    f/2.8    1/2000s    2800 ISO    +0.3 EV  






  NIKON D4    300.0 mm f/2.8 lens    600mm    f/7.1    1/1250s    560 ISO    -0.3 EV  






  NIKON D4    300.0 mm f/2.8 lens    300mm    f/2.8    1/1000s    1000 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D4    300.0 mm f/2.8 lens    600mm    f/7.1    1/2000s    800 ISO    0.0 EV  




May 19, 2023 at 06:47 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Nikon D4 in 2023


The D7200 is just about 1 1/2 pounds/ The D4s is double that at just a bit shy of 3 pounds. To me,, that is a lot.


May 19, 2023 at 06:56 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Nikon D4 in 2023


JadedWriter wrote:
Shot an event with the D4 and D5 last night for a quick $500


I have made money using my D7200. My insurance co does not need to know this or my rates skyrocket. I got out of the money game when my hands started shaking like a dog shi**ing razor blades.



May 19, 2023 at 07:01 PM







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