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 p.1 #18 · Logical upgrade from rebel T6 | |
AmbientMike wrote:
Have you shot a T6, I'm pretty sure I've shot at f/4 before in a dark gym. Not something I remember fondly
Is 1/400 fast enough? That's the ss posted at 6400 at f/4. No, I don't recommend people having no high ISO experience expecting much at 12800 on a T6
Yes, I recommend the 50/1.8, and mention it's shortcomings. Makes a,lot more,sense than some of your recommendations. R7 really? $1500 + lenses on a yearbook budget.
a. No budget was mentioned.
b. This wasn't noted as a school yearbook gear, but rather a personal item of someone shooting for the yearbook, big difference of whether this is school gear and budget driven or someone that is a budding photographer and is starting with yearbook photos
c. I have shot the 7D, same sensor and more more capable.
d. I have shot at f4 in gyms as well, many many times, I still do. Sometimes in order to compensate for bad AF lenses, you have to run a smaller aperture to make up for focus discrepancies. You don't shoot at f1.8 on the nifty-fifty; at f1.8 on that lens for heavy action close to you, nothing that you want will be in focus, so you will raise to f2.8 and hope that works, and if not, you will start to reach toward f4. Action far away means you have to crop, and that starts to expose the high ISO very quickly.
e. ISO 12800 is very doable, and will produce keepers especially for a yearbook, and you can set this up in the camera. There are also many available NR tools to also help.
f. All gyms aren't created equal, so we can only guess at the lighting in this venue. If the school has gone to newer LED lights, then an f4 lens will work. If it is still the old gas lighting, then not much is going to help short of going to newer bodies with higher resolutions with better high ISO performance, but we don't have to go that far just yet.
I do agree we need a bit more detail. Is this school gear, or personal gear? Is there a budget? What is the experience of the person?
However none of that changes the fact that a good shooter with guidance cannot make the T6 obtain better results with a constant F4 L lens at a higher ISO than the current lens lineup and current camera setup. Of course an f2.8 zoom is even better. A good fast focusing prime would also work, but something better than the focusing ring on the 50 1.8, like the 50 1.4. It also isn't a great sports lens, but it is faster yet, and it focuses a bit faster and more accurately.
My sports shooting across all my gear through the years have ranged from 6400 to 32000. About 80% of what I shoot is action. That is my wheelhouse.
I find telling someone to shoot sports with the 50 1.8 is like telling someone that is trying to make cabinets to go get a circular saw to make their cuts. Can you do it? Sure, but you are going to work ALOT harder to get an end result, and you are going to go through ALOT more material to get it right, and in the end, the results are going to show that the tool does matter, and you probably should have tried something a bit more apt for the work at hand.
More interestingly shooting a Canon mirrorless opens up some other avenues not previously available, but again budget matters. Canon M50 with a f2.8 zoom lens, but using the speedbooster to make this f2, and that enabled me to shoot at low ISO at 1/2000 for very good results using eye AF. However again not a good overall tool for sports, but it could produce some very fine results in parts of the action. I am not advocating a complete move to mirrorless however, that would be overkill for this situation.
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