p.7 #1 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens
mulberry2006 wrote:
The blacks are darker with the Voigtlander. Not sure how to describe it optically speaking with the right terms, but looking at the images taken with the Voigtlander one can see colors are more contrasty and, in some areas, the details more defined.
Yes, the Nokton yields higher contrast compared to the new SR but we are splitting hairs. It would be hard to see any difference in real images, especially after some post-production. Where I think the Nokton is different is in regards the amount of glow which is noticeably lower. Some may prefer that look and others don't.
p.7 #2 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens
If someone were interested and has the equipment for a proper comp, using a cinebloom or BPM on the CV 35/1.4 would be interesting in terms of mimicking (not perfectly I know) the affect of the 35 Lux v2 or SR with less contrast and more SA. An interesting option for those who can’t afford a v2/SR (they are goofy expensive IMO), don’t always want the glow or aren’t super particular about exactly matching the Lux but do like a softer image.
I have always thought the images on the CV 35/1.4 feel fairly distinct from the Lux’s. To me, these comps (thanks again to you and Matt), bears this out.
If I owned a CV 35/1.4, I’d absolutely give it a whirl.
p.7 #3 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens
nehemiahphoto wrote:
If someone were interested and has the equipment for a proper comp, using a cinebloom or BPM on the CV 35/1.4 would be interesting in terms of mimicking (not perfectly I know) the affect of the 35 Lux v2 or SR with less contrast and more SA. An interesting option for those who can’t afford a v2/SR (they are goofy expensive IMO), don’t always want the glow or aren’t super particular about exactly matching the Lux but do like a softer image.
I have always thought the images on the CV 35/1.4 feel fairly distinct from the Lux’s. To me, these comps (thanks again to you and Matt), bears this out.
If I owned a CV 35/1.4, I’d absolutely give it a whirl....Show more →
I've tried a 1/8 and 1/4 BPM filter on the Voigt and to my eyes, it creates a different look compared to the Leica pre-asph.
...but it definitely reduces contrast and increases halation and blooming effect.
p.7 #4 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens
Interesting... Arista 100 has a lot of halation. That plus the Leica SR should be interesting. (Cinestill 800 has more, but it is a bit over the top as is!)
p.7 #5 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens
To me the glow leads with the SR to a loss of details -- blown highlights would be another way of describing it here at least -- when it is not controlled ;-)
quote]Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes, the Nokton yields higher contrast compared to the new SR but we are splitting hairs. It would be hard to see any difference in real images, especially after some post-production. Where I think the Nokton is different is in regards the amount of glow which is noticeably lower. Some may prefer that look and others don't.
p.7 #6 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens
Fred Miranda wrote:
Bokeh balls are virtually identical between all the versions. It's also very similar to the Voigtlander, although the latter produces slightly more rounded specular highlights towards the edge.
One can see this in these two crops (100% mag):
Honestly, if you told me you shot these with the same lens but made a slight edit in post to one of them, I would believe you
p.7 #7 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens
Fred Miranda wrote:
I've tried a 1/8 and 1/4 BPM filter on the Voigt and to my eyes, it creates a different look compared to the Leica pre-asph.
...but it definitely reduces contrast and increases halation and blooming effect.
I thought maybe the already undercorrected CV 35/1.4 would play a bit nicer with the BPM’s. I’ve tried several of the better corrected lenses (75/1.5, 35/1.2iii, 28/2ii, 35/2 Ultron) with BPM’s from 1/8 to 1 and Pearlescent, but they never mimic closely enough for me either—files still feel modern, just a bit gentler and different.
I am going to try the Cinebloom lens as those affect the lens differently, and I think in a way that looks more like actual vintage glass to my eye.
p.7 #8 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens
highdesertmesa wrote:
Honestly, if you told me you shot these with the same lens but made a slight edit in post to one of them, I would believe you
And that was from a 100% crop! In a resized image, I doubt anyone would pick the reissued Leica SR over the Voigtlander, except for the extra glow.
The glow is very unique though and I don't think it can be replicated by the use of diffusion filters. Here is an example of the glow in this low light scene. It's a mix of SA + coma.
LEICA M10-RSummilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens35mmf/1.41/60s100 ISO0.0 EV
p.7 #9 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens
Fred Miranda wrote:
And that was from a 100% crop! In a resized image, I doubt anyone would pick the reissued Leica SR over the Voigtlander, except for the extra glow.
The glow is very unique though and I don't think it can be replicated by the use of diffusion filters. Here is an example of the glow in this low light scene. It's a mix of SA + coma.
With some lenses with apertures of 1/1.4 or wider, a very slight misfocus can produce a similar glow. I saw this with the CV 75 1.5 but especially the 50 Lux BC. And I'm talking about a misfocus so slight, it still appears focused.
I don't trust diffusion filtration to mimic the look, though – it's never quite the same because it's global across the image. The Steel Rim and other pre-ASPH variants have a very analog distribution of glow.
p.7 #11 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens
How does the late Lux do with regards to glow?
Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes, the Nokton yields higher contrast compared to the new SR but we are splitting hairs. It would be hard to see any difference in real images, especially after some post-production. Where I think the Nokton is different is in regards the amount of glow which is noticeably lower. Some may prefer that look and others don't.
p.7 #19 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens
Fred Miranda wrote:
Thank you Steve! I used your template.
I'm glad to see it worked out so well for you Fred. I ran out of them a while back. But about once a week I get asked for one. I am thinking that there may be enough demand for another batch. I will ask my laser cutter guy to do a batch and have them available again for after Christmas.
