Just for reference, the $7.99 58mm screw on (non-vented) hood works great for the Nokton 50 1.1. Blocks maybe 10% more of the viewfinder, but looks much better, IMO.
Did Cosina produce stronger 50/1 lens variants for Canon and Nikon than for the VM version, like they did for the 35/50 APO pair? The weight gain is pretty large. It would be a good commercial decision to do so, and going to the trouble of developing the OEM ergonomics is a nice touch also.
philip_pj wrote:
Did Cosina produce stronger 50/1 lens variants for Canon and Nikon than for the VM version, like they did for the 35/50 APO pair? The weight gain is pretty large. It would be a good commercial decision to do so, and going to the trouble of developing the OEM ergonomics is a nice touch also.
From everything I have seen and based on the measurement of the diameter of the rear element (which is unnecessarily small for Z and RF): no.
BrandonSi wrote:
Just for reference, the $7.99 58mm screw on (non-vented) hood works great for the Nokton 50 1.1. Blocks maybe 10% more of the viewfinder, but looks much better, IMO.
BastianK wrote:
Can you share a picture? It is only 8 bucks, but I already have enough cheap hoods lying around which I don't use :-)
Of course! Not sure on if you wanted viewfinder blockage or the hood on the camera, but would be trivial to do both. Once I have enough coffee to properly power the camera this morning, I'll post some shots.
Just to make it clear to everyone reading this:
BrandonSi is referring to the (old) f/1.1 lens, not the f/1.0 lens this thread is about. The f/1.0 version has 62mm filter thread in M and Z mount, while the Canon RF mount version has 67mm filter thread.
BrandonSi wrote:
Best I could do on the viewfinder blockage. I now have a lot of respect for people who can consistently get that shot for lens reviews!
LarsHP wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone reading this:
BrandonSi is referring to the (old) f/1.1 lens, not the f/1.0 lens this thread is about. The f/1.0 version has 62mm filter thread in M and Z mount, while the Canon RF mount version has 67mm filter thread.
Yep! Old VM f/1.1 version, not the new ASPH 1.0 version (also VM). I purchased both to evaluate them, and found I prefer the 1.1 as my "fast / low light" 50mm, especially with the $1,000 USD difference in price.
BastianK wrote:
From everything I have seen and based on the measurement of the diameter of the rear element (which is unnecessarily small for Z and RF): no.
You may be right, but Cosina themselves claim that the optical design is:
"Designed exclusively for the Nikon Z mount
Optics optimized for the image sensors of mirrorless cameras with the Nikon Z-mount are implemented."
Fred Miranda wrote:
It's a smart move to apply 6-bit coding to the CV 50/1.1 from the Noct f/1, as they produce similar results. I own both the CV 50/1.1 Nokton and the Leica 50/1 Noct, and the former is my preferred ultra-fast 50mm lens from Voigtlander when I don't want the bulk of the heavier Noct. Rendering-wise they are very similar, although the Voigtlander yields higher contrast and less vignetting.
Once the colors/contrast, SA and flare are changed, you’re really getting an appreciable different rendering—it’s all subjective, but that’s where so much of the magic rest. Then again, at Leica prices, it’s an expensive preference!
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Once the colors/contrast, SA and flare are changed, you’re really getting an appreciable different rendering—it’s all subjective, but that’s where so much of the magic rest. Then again, at Leica prices, it’s an expensive preference!
Totally agree with you on how that affects the rendering. What I meant is that the rendering structure is alike, and sometimes I throw in a Lightroom preset that brings the color, contrast, and vignetting closer to the Noct. It's not an exact match, but it gets pretty close. Although, hands down, the original Leica 50/1 always takes the cake if you're after that particular look.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Totally agree with you on how that affects the rendering. What I meant is that the rendering structure is alike, and sometimes I throw in a Lightroom preset that brings the color, contrast, and vignetting closer to the Noct. It's not an exact match, but it gets pretty close. Although, hands down, the original Leica 50/1 always takes the cake if you're after that particular look.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Totally agree with you on how that affects the rendering. What I meant is that the rendering structure is alike, and sometimes I throw in a Lightroom preset that brings the color, contrast, and vignetting closer to the Noct. It's not an exact match, but it gets pretty close. Although, hands down, the original Leica 50/1 always takes the cake if you're after that particular look.
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Great share Do you have any others?
And would you mind to explain how you made it?
I've adjusted the color, contrast, and vignetting for the 50/1.1 Voigtlander lens to match the 50/1 Noctilux lens. I did this by examining images from both lenses and comparing them directly in Lightroom under the same lighting and framing conditions. Basically, I did a test to see how the lenses render images and captured photos in various lighting conditions using both lenses on a tripod. I'll try to find the samples for comparison.
Fred Miranda wrote:
I've adjusted the color, contrast, and vignetting for the 50/1.1 Voigtlander lens to match the 50/1 Noctilux lens. I did this by examining images from both lenses and comparing them directly in Lightroom under the same lighting and framing conditions. Basically, I did a test to see how the lenses render images and captured photos in various lighting conditions using both lenses on a tripod. I'll try to find the samples for comparison.
I did the same with a 55 ZA trying to get it too look like my ZM 50/1.5, even used a color passport checker. I didn't expect the ZM bokeh, but I was hoping to hit the brilliant tonal and contrast look of the ZM 50, but I couldn't get it that well. Tried some other lenses with this method to with modest success. Curious and hopeful to try yours. I've had more success with lenses that look more similar to start with.
nehemiahphoto wrote:
I did the same with a 55 ZA trying to get it too look like my ZM 50/1.5, even used a color passport checker. I didn't expect the ZM bokeh, but I was hoping to hit the brilliant tonal and contrast look of the ZM 50, but I couldn't get it that well. Tried some other lenses with this method to with modest success. Curious and hopeful to try yours. I've had more success with lenses that look more similar to start with.
Same here. I could not get the 55/1.8 ZA to look like the ZM 50/1.5. It's easier to do the other way around.
Either way, the rendering structure from these two lenses are not similar. In the case of the CV 50/1.1 and Leica 50/1 Noct, they have very similar optical designs. That was during a time when Cosina was getting "inspired" by Leica.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Same here. I could not get the 55/1.8 ZA to look like the ZM 50/1.5. It's easier to do the other way around.
Either way, the rendering structure from these two lenses are not similar. In the case of the CV 50/1.1 and Leica 50/1 Noct, they have very similar optical designs. That was during a time when Cosina was getting "inspired" by Leica.
Quite inspired lol. Having said that, many smaller lenses makers still seem to being chasing Leica in some way--optics, advertising, lens naming, etc. Though CV nowadays are marching to their own drum which I love to see. I always found the ZA to render flatly though it's very sharp with fast AF. The ZM is the opposite with so-so optics but gorgeous files. Still miss mine.
What are look-a-like lens profiles have you tried?
Do you have any others?