brad-man wrote:
Great series of different structures. They look good even in the harsh light. I bet you went thru a few cards on that trip.
Thanks! It was a great trip overall. Had to divert plans a little due to some overnight rain, but other than that it was smooth. (I didn't want to get stuck on wet clay roads again.)
keepclicking wrote:
Nice looking set with beautiful clouds. You said u did it all on foot😳, how long of a hike was it from parking area?
I parked maybe a mile up the road from the Lone Tree Access Point parking spot, didn't feel like chancing my vehicle on the deeper sands. Went from there up through Paw Hole and then up and around to Cottonwood Cove. When I clicked around with Google Maps' measure distance tool, it says it was about 6 miles one way. Realistically probably around 7 miles one way.
I was very lucky to find a guide with a couple of his clients out at Cottonwood Cove, and he gave me a ride back to where I was parked. Saved me about 6-7 miles of walking in the dark on the sandy road like what I did on my first time here. (Now THAT was a long day! I was so sore the day after that I cut my trip short by a day to go home, as I was in no state to hike anymore. Long deep sandy roads will work those muscles in a surprising way.)
Rather than hike so far, enter via Alt 89, House Rock Valley Rd to the Corral. This avoids the deep sand and hill near Paw Hole and the slick part of House Rock Valley Rd. BLM has a decent map of this route. I'm sure you saw the parking area about 1/2 mile from the formations.
This is also the approach to White Pocket and some other features.
dalite wrote:
You found your Wave and more to boot. Well done.
Thanks! I really love the area, and also like that nothing in the South Buttes has reached the cultural icon status of The Wave itself, so permits are still accessible enough.
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stanparker wrote:
Rather than hike so far, enter via Alt 89, House Rock Valley Rd to the Corral. This avoids the deep sand and hill near Paw Hole and the slick part of House Rock Valley Rd. BLM has a decent map of this route. I'm sure you saw the parking area about 1/2 mile from the formations.
This is also the approach to White Pocket and some other features.
You got some great shots, however you got there.
Hmm, I've been driven out that way with a guide a couple times when going out to White Pocket before. I remember several spots of deep sand, but as I wasn't driving, I couldn't place them on a map. Is that road doable with a Subaru Outback? I try to err on the side of caution since I don't want to get stuck a thousand miles from home.
These are great. CB South has some treasures for sure. I really like the 3rd shot. Nice way to frame that lone tower. 4th shot is a spot I never found. Good one! Such a cool place!
The Rat wrote:
Thanks! I really love the area, and also like that nothing in the South Buttes has reached the cultural icon status of The Wave itself, so permits are still accessible enough.
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Hmm, I've been driven out that way with a guide a couple times when going out to White Pocket before. I remember several spots of deep sand, but as I wasn't driving, I couldn't place them on a map. Is that road doable with a Subaru Outback? I try to err on the side of caution since I don't want to get stuck a thousand miles from home.
Well, conditions always change, but I first did it in a Honda Pilot with 8 inches clearance. So much depends on where the tires are placed, which naturally depends on experience and judgment. It never hurts to have a shovel and other recovery equipment when you go someplace like that. I also carried a survival pack in case I had to wait for help to come along, such as one of your guides or someone in a Jeep.
gordon l wrote:
These are great. CB South has some treasures for sure. I really like the 3rd shot. Nice way to frame that lone tower. 4th shot is a spot I never found. Good one! Such a cool place!
Thanks! Yeah I feel like there's so much more I want to explore there, but the limiting factor is always how much mileage my legs can put out in a day. I'll be going in a few weeks again as long as the weather cooperates.
stanparker wrote:
Well, conditions always change, but I first did it in a Honda Pilot with 8 inches clearance. So much depends on where the tires are placed, which naturally depends on experience and judgment. It never hurts to have a shovel and other recovery equipment when you go someplace like that. I also carried a survival pack in case I had to wait for help to come along, such as one of your guides or someone in a Jeep.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely lacking in the experience department when it comes to driving difficult roads like that. I normally keep a fair amount of emergency stuff in my car, but I haven't had to use much of it yet.
I am getting tired on betting the Wave lottery so I totally understand you.... But i guess I'll keep trying.
Photographically, my favorite is the last shot in the series.
BTW, would that be passable for an "in-between" truck? (lifted 4Runner w/decent tires).
I went to Cottonwood Cove in 2008, in a Jeep Liberty rental. It is definitely on the list to return to. We drove in on the road, with fairly deep sand in a few spots. Don't slow down! Carry a compressor, and if needed, you can drop your tire pressure to about 15 psi and air back up when you get to gravel.
You captured it very well.
zuru wrote:
I am getting tired on betting the Wave lottery so I totally understand you.... But i guess I'll keep trying.
Photographically, my favorite is the last shot in the series.
BTW, would that be passable for an "in-between" truck? (lifted 4Runner w/decent tires).
The part that gets me is that so many people that go to the Wave only go to the Wave itself, and then back home. If I ever get a permit (knock on wood), it's going to be boots on trail before sunrise, and getting back to the car after dark, exploring everything all around the area. But can't do anything without the dang permit...
M Gotchall wrote:
I went to Cottonwood Cove in 2008, in a Jeep Liberty rental. It is definitely on the list to return to. We drove in on the road, with fairly deep sand in a few spots. Don't slow down! Carry a compressor, and if needed, you can drop your tire pressure to about 15 psi and air back up when you get to gravel.
You captured it very well.
zuru wrote:
I am getting tired on betting the Wave lottery so I totally understand you.... But i guess I'll keep trying.
Photographically, my favorite is the last shot in the series.
BTW, would that be passable for an "in-between" truck? (lifted 4Runner w/decent tires).
I have a 2" lifted '97 4Runner with good tires and I've been up on the Paria Plateau 4 times w/o incident. The really deep sand is at the very top of the Paw Hole approach, when it's almost level. The other road up, that's farther south, is much less of a sand trap. BTW, the sandy road sections, which is about maybe 75% of the roads on the top of the plateau, are actually less loose when wet.
The Rat wrote:
Thanks! I really love the area, and also like that nothing in the South Buttes has reached the cultural icon status of The Wave itself, so permits are still accessible enough.
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Hmm, I've been driven out that way with a guide a couple times when going out to White Pocket before. I remember several spots of deep sand, but as I wasn't driving, I couldn't place them on a map. Is that road doable with a Subaru Outback? I try to err on the side of caution since I don't want to get stuck a thousand miles from home.
My son in law has a 2021 Subaru Outback, albeit tricked out. Special off road tires. Plates underneath. 2" lifts. You get where I'm going. But! When we drove out to Culter Point outside Kanab he aired out his tires for the 7 ish miles of deep soft sand. That may be an option? Just make sure you have a electric pump for when you return!
Beautiful photos btw!!
curtisb908 wrote:
Amazing set of images! Thank you for sharing the results of your efforts....I certainly can't pick a favorite!!
Thanks! I'll probably get one on my wall, but I'm still not sure which one either.
Jim Dockery wrote:
Great work, all new angles for me of an over shot location.
Thanks! I think there's a ton of potential in the area away from the usual guided tour spots. Just have to be willing to put the miles in on the legs.
DivineFocus wrote:
Nice set. Some interesting formations well captured.
Thanks, glad you like them!
AZHeaven wrote:
My son in law has a 2021 Subaru Outback, albeit tricked out. Special off road tires. Plates underneath. 2" lifts. You get where I'm going. But! When we drove out to Culter Point outside Kanab he aired out his tires for the 7 ish miles of deep soft sand. That may be an option? Just make sure you have a electric pump for when you return!
Beautiful photos btw!!
Thanks! Yeah if I lived closer, I would absolutely sink some money into my Outback and make it capable. As it is, only being in the area 1-2x a year, it doesn't make as much sense to me.
