jeffryscott wrote:
It is an amazing lens, as is the 300. I wish I could have afforded to keep the 300 when I got the 150-400, just for times I want to carry a smaller kit without compromising optical quality.
Yeah. I would agree. If you don't need the money, I would keep it. That is what I have done. I can see times when a much smaller lens of equal image quality would be handy to have around.
Sitting on the porch looking for birds yesterday and none to be found, but my favorite subject was far enough away to try a shot at 300mm with the white lens. 150/300mm portrait lens.
I have both exact setups, and for the past 6 months after I managed to get the 150-400mm, I have not used the Sony for birds and birds in flight.
The main difference is the lens, image quality and reach. The 200-600mm is not in the same league. To achieve better/equivalent sharpness, it needs to be stopped down slightly. The 150-400mm is sharp wide open, even with the TC engaged. Sony f6.3 to f8 vs Olympus f4.5 to f5.6.
With that handicap, the Sony setup needs to shoot at higher iso for a given shutterspeed. That again "degrades" the IQ.
The drawback for the Olympus is the depth of field. f4.5 has the same look as f9 on the Sony. But if you need to shoot at f8 on the Sony to get the sharpness, I find difference between f9 vs f8 depth of field is negligible.
Camera - the A1 has better/stickier AF, but the OM-1 is not too far off. With the ability to shoot at 50fps with continuous AF, you will still get enough sharp shots. I do like the more customisable buttons on the A1 (maybe I am biased, Sony was my only system before picking up the Olympus).
The stabilization of the Sony vs Olympus, is also a no contest. I can shoot handheld at 1600mm (with 2x TC) with no issues, and 2000mm (2xTC + 1.25x engaged) braced handheld but preferably on tripod.
Lots of other features on the OM-1 makes it a fun camera. Pro-Capture, live ND, live composite, in camera focus stacking etc.
I did have an opportunity to test out the Sony 600mm f4 for a week. Though I had wonderful results, it made me realise that was not the lens for me, as I shoot 99% handheld/mobile.
I know you mentioned not to compare size/weight, but that is very important. A difference of 599g (1.32lbs) is a lot.
Uzay wrote:
Sony A1 + 200-600 vs Oly OM1 + 150-400
Does anyone has used or have both systems can compare these two duo?
Don't care much about ergonomics or weight, main goal is AF and tracking
RSK01 wrote:
I have both exact setups, and for the past 6 months after I managed to get the 150-400mm, I have not used the Sony for birds and birds in flight.
The main difference is the lens, image quality and reach. The 200-600mm is not in the same league. To achieve better/equivalent sharpness, it needs to be stopped down slightly. The 150-400mm is sharp wide open, even with the TC engaged. Sony f6.3 to f8 vs Olympus f4.5 to f5.6.
With that handicap, the Sony setup needs to shoot at higher iso for a given shutterspeed. That again "degrades" the IQ.
The drawback for the Olympus is the depth of field. f4.5 has the same look as f9 on the Sony. But if you need to shoot at f8 on the Sony to get the sharpness, I find difference between f9 vs f8 depth of field is negligible.
Camera - the A1 has better/stickier AF, but the OM-1 is not too far off. With the ability to shoot at 50fps with continuous AF, you will still get enough sharp shots. I do like the more customisable buttons on the A1 (maybe I am biased, Sony was my only system before picking up the Olympus).
The stabilization of the Sony vs Olympus, is also a no contest. I can shoot handheld at 1600mm (with 2x TC) with no issues, and 2000mm (2xTC + 1.25x engaged) braced handheld but preferably on tripod.
Lots of other features on the OM-1 makes it a fun camera. Pro-Capture, live ND, live composite, in camera focus stacking etc.
I did have an opportunity to test out the Sony 600mm f4 for a week. Though I had wonderful results, it made me realise that was not the lens for me, as I shoot 99% handheld/mobile.
I know you mentioned not to compare size/weight, but that is very important. A difference of 599g (1.32lbs) is a lot.
I would agree 100%, since getting the 150-400, the Sony sits. As far as AF, I find the OM-1 to find the subject maybe a little faster but the A1 is stickier. I will also mention the weight difference, it is not insignificant if you are hand holding, which you can easily do with the OM-1 + 150-400
I brought out all my gear (except the OM-1 battery grip, as I don't have it) and measured them on my wife kitchen scale that's rated to 5000g, not commercially certified, but it's what I have with a supposedly resolution of 1g.
A1 with battery and 2 CFA cards 741g vs 699g published
OM-1 with battery and 2 Tough G cards 608g vs 599g published
Difference 133g vs 100g published
Sony 200-600mm with hood & aftermarket Arca-Swiss foot (12g lighter than stock)
2373g vs (2115g lens + 163g hood = 2278g published
Olympus 150-400mm with hood
2050g vs (1875g + 130g = 2005g) published
Difference 323g vs 273g published
Total difference 456g vs 373g published
Batteries Olympus 82g vs Sony 83g
Battery grip Sony 283g vs 299g published
I don't have the Olympus grip, does not seem to be bigger/bulkier than the Sony. Can't find info of the weight.
molson wrote:
The Sony A1 with battery grip, two batteries, and the 200-600 G lens (with hood) attached weighs 3235 grams.
The OM-1 with battery grip, two batteries, and the 150-400mm f4.5 lens (with hood) attached weighs 2018 grams.
Set up the way I normally use these cameras, the difference is only 217 grams.
Cooper's hawk defending its territory against a red-tailed hawk. The hawk was making daily foray's near the Cooper's nest (which is currently inactive as one of the adults has disappeared), but the remaining adult is keeping vigilant. Two day's in a row the aerial combat commenced.
OM-1OLYMPUS M.150-400mm F4.5 TC lens188mmf/5.61/2500s800 ISO-0.3 EV
OM-1OLYMPUS M.150-400mm F4.5 TC lens188mmf/5.61/2500s800 ISO-0.3 EV
OM-1OLYMPUS M.150-400mm F4.5 TC lens188mmf/5.61/2500s800 ISO-0.3 EV
An encounter the day before the previous shots
OM-1OLYMPUS M.150-400mm F4.5 TC lens188mmf/5.61/4000s1600 ISO0.0 EV
OM-1OLYMPUS M.150-400mm F4.5 TC lens188mmf/5.61/4000s1600 ISO0.0 EV
