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p.19 #1Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
Why did you sell the 150-400mm again?

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molson wroteNot a very high percentage of keepers today - just not enough light, and too much subject movement, but I did manage to glean a few good shots...
I tried the same subject today with my Sony A7R IVa. Out of 28 frames, this was the only keeper - and viewed at 100% it is a tiny bit OOF on the birds eye, but certainly good enough for web posting. That's less than a 4% success rate...

Nov 07, 2022 at 04:32 PM
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p.19 #2Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
galenapass wrote:
molson wrote
galenapass wrote
molson wrote
molson wroteNot a very high percentage of keepers today - just not enough light, and too much subject movement, but I did manage to glean a few good shots...
I tried the same subject today with my Sony A7R IVa. Out of 28 frames, this was the only keeper - and viewed at 100% it is a tiny bit OOF on the birds eye, but certainly good enough for web posting. That's less than a 4% success rate...
Sony's stabilization is a joke compared to Olympus. At those slow shutter speeds I am not surprised. On top of that, my A7r IV wont focus accurately with the 200-600 no matter what the shutter speed. Some people have this problem while others have no issue at all. This leads to some arguments on the Sony forum. I spent a lot of time trying to trouble shoot the issue but finally gave up. I am not surprised at all by those results given the slow SS and known issues with that combo.
I've gotten some excellent hummingbird shots with the A7R IV and 200-600 but naturally it helps if there's more light; more importantly, since it doesn't have bird eye AF, it's critical to get the active AF point over the bird's eye. When you are so close to such a small subject, the DOF is almost zero, so there's no margin for error, and I don't keep any shots where the bird's eye is not in sharp focus. The A1 does much better, as does the A7 IV.
Well, your one up on me. I could never get that combo to work properly, which is why I bought the 600GM. My A7rIV works perfectly with that and all I had to do was spend the amount of money I would on a cheap car to get there.



Here's one from a couple of minutes ago with the A7R IVa. I bumped the ISO up to 6400, and used the small flexible spot AF and placed it on his eye, and still had a number of soft images, but when the AF hits, the results are pretty nice.

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Nov 07, 2022 at 04:40 PM
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p.19 #3Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
True, but if I can get the SP AF point on the eye, I can get shots at least as good with a D500/500pf.

The problem is, of course, is that I usually can't unless the bird is perched or stationary.

Tom
Nov 07, 2022 at 05:01 PM
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p.19 #4Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
Tom Reynolds wrote:
True, but if I can get the SP AF point on the eye, I can get shots at least as good with a D500/500pf.

The problem is, of course, is that I usually can't unless the bird is perched or stationary.

Tom


Same goes for the Fuji cameras... except their AF was also slower, and much less accurate; I don't know how well their latest cameras have improved on this.
Nov 07, 2022 at 06:21 PM
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p.19 #5Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
I could get equivalent shots to what you took with the OM-1/150-400 only if I was on a tripod because I couldn't hand hold the rig steady enough to get a SP AF point on the eye.

However, if I could get the point on the eye











Nov 07, 2022 at 06:35 PM
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p.19 #6Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
Tom Reynolds wrote:
I could get equivalent shots to what you took with the OM-1/150-400 only if I was on a tripod because I couldn't hand hold the rig steady enough to get a SP AF point on the eye.

However, if I could get the point on the eye



I assume these are shot with the Sony - judging by the dust spots?
Nov 08, 2022 at 11:57 AM
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p.19 #7Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
This little hummer finally perched on our red Japanese maple, dusted with a bit of snow... I took a ton of images trying to get just the right composition, but to my dismay when I downloaded the files, I discovered that the camera had somehow switched itself to shooting JPEG instead of RAW, so they all ended up in the trash bin.

My OM-D EM-1 III used to do this all the time, and I could never figure out what was causing the switch from RAW to JPEG - the only thing I ever adjust on the camera is the ISO.

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Nov 08, 2022 at 12:20 PM
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p.19 #10Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
molson wrote:
Tom Reynolds wroteI could get equivalent shots to what you took with the OM-1/150-400 only if I was on a tripod because I couldn't hand hold the rig steady enough to get a SP AF point on the eye.

However, if I could get the point on the eye
I assume these are shot with the Sony - judging by the dust spots?


Nikon d-500/500pf on a tripod in a blind.

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p.19 #11Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
robert_in_ca wrote:
Why did you sell the 150-400mm again?

molson wrote
molson wroteNot a very high percentage of keepers today - just not enough light, and too much subject movement, but I did manage to glean a few good shots...
I tried the same subject today with my Sony A7R IVa. Out of 28 frames, this was the only keeper - and viewed at 100% it is a tiny bit OOF on the birds eye, but certainly good enough for web posting. That's less than a 4% success rate...


I received an offer I couldn't refuse... a brand new Sony A1 in exchange for the 150-400 (which is worth a fair bit more than people here were willing to offer for the lens). I just shipped it out yesterday afternoon.

Basically, I'm back to where I was a year ago - with great AF for birds and enough resolution for landscapes all in one body. It hurts letting that 150-400 go, but it's just one part in the overall system. I should probably sell the OM-1 before I'm tempted to change my mind again...
Nov 09, 2022 at 09:24 AM
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p.19 #12Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
A few recent ones.





Black-crowned night heron

  OM-1    OLYMPUS M.150-400mm F4.5 lens    400mm    f/4.5    1/200s    2000 ISO    0.0 EV  







Great egret

  OM-1    M.150-400mm F4.5 TC + MC-14 lens    700mm    f/8.0    1/800s    2000 ISO    0.0 EV  







Red-tailed hawk

  OM-1    OLYMPUS M.150-400mm F4.5 TC lens    445mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    1250 ISO    -0.3 EV  







Great egret

Nov 09, 2022 at 10:57 AM
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p.19 #13Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
What lens are you using with the A1 for birding?

molson wrote:
robert_in_ca wroteWhy did you sell the 150-400mm again?

molson wrote
molson wroteNot a very high percentage of keepers today - just not enough light, and too much subject movement, but I did manage to glean a few good shots...
I tried the same subject today with my Sony A7R IVa. Out of 28 frames, this was the only keeper - and viewed at 100% it is a tiny bit OOF on the birds eye, but certainly good enough for web posting. That's less than a 4% success rate...
I received an offer I couldn't refuse... a brand new Sony A1 in exchange for the 150-400 (which is worth a fair bit more than people here were willing to offer for the lens). I just shipped it out yesterday afternoon.

Basically, I'm back to where I was a year ago - with great AF for birds and enough resolution for landscapes all in one body. It hurts letting that 150-400 go, but it's just one part in the overall system. I should probably sell the OM-1 before I'm tempted to change my mind again...

Nov 09, 2022 at 02:00 PM
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p.19 #14Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
Went back to the same location today for the Collared Kingfisher.

Used the bare lens today, as the lighting was not great.

OM-1 + 150-400mm f4.5 Handheld

Collared Kingfisher with Brown Anole - OM-1 + Olympus 150-400mm f4.5 Handheld by Yik Lim, on Flickr
Nov 09, 2022 at 02:06 PM
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p.19 #15Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
Cooper's hawk with green-winged teal it knocked down in flight a minute before (happened behind a tree, then it brought it to an opening, sat for a few then took off. OM-1 and 150-400.




  OM-1    OLYMPUS M.150-400mm F4.5 TC lens    500mm    f/5.6    1/1250s    2500 ISO    0.0 EV  

Nov 14, 2022 at 09:52 AM
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p.19 #16Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
jeffryscott wrote:
Cooper's hawk with green-winged teal it knocked down in flight a minute before (happened behind a tree, then it brought it to an opening, sat for a few then took off. OM-1 and 150-400.


Not a good day for the teal, but a good capture for you. Right place at the right time with the right equipment. On my screen looks like there is a little motion blur on the hawks eye. Topaz could clean that up. The wing blur is great - shows action.
Nov 14, 2022 at 01:17 PM
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p.19 #17Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
jeffryscott wrote:
Cooper's hawk with green-winged teal it knocked down in flight a minute before (happened behind a tree, then it brought it to an opening, sat for a few then took off. OM-1 and 150-400.


Great action moment, but shutter speed too slow for sharp image.
Nov 15, 2022 at 12:24 PM
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p.19 #18Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
Imagemaster wrote:
jeffryscott wroteCooper's hawk with green-winged teal it knocked down in flight a minute before (happened behind a tree, then it brought it to an opening, sat for a few then took off. OM-1 and 150-400.
Great action moment, but shutter speed too slow for sharp image.


I agree. My default is 1/3200 and screw the high ISO. Maybe 1/2500 is OK with a hawk but not with a faster bird.

Tom

Nov 15, 2022 at 12:59 PM
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p.19 #19Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
Pied-billed grebe, OM-1 with 150-400 and MC-14




  OM-1    M.150-400mm F4.5 TC + MC-14 lens    700mm    f/8.0    1/1600s    640 ISO    0.0 EV  

Nov 21, 2022 at 08:38 PM
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p.19 #20Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 F/4.5 Image Thread
Juvi Black Winged Kite feeding on a rat that the dad brought back.

OM-1 + 150-400mm f4.5 + 1.25x Built-in TC + MC-14 Handheld

Juvi Black Winged Kite - OM-1 + 150-400mm f4.5 + 1.25x Built-in TC + MC-14 by Yik Lim, on Flickr
Nov 23, 2022 at 10:24 PM


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