Ihmemies2 wrote:
Bought a Sigma 24/2 DG DN. Trip report: lens is good. Fully metal exterior, aperture ring is stiffer and better than in 85/1.4 DG DN. Everything just works. This is what I've always wanted, and Nikkor 24/2 Ai-S could not deliver IQ wise since the design was just too old. But the Sigma has it all.
450g with caps, hood and a 62mm Hoya HD filter.
The forum software doesn't understand my hotlinks so I can only leave the url to gallery here. One was taken with 50/1.4 art.
Nice to see those beautiful photos from Finland I haven't been able to go back to visit Finland since summer 2019 but hopefully it is doable next year...
Thanks! I think the only downside compared to 24/1.4 GM is the weight. GM is not that much heavier but a full stop faster. In fact without hood & caps the 24mm 1.4 GM weighs the same as 24/2 Sigma with hood and caps...
But there is also the price difference. And 24/1.4 GM is probably not made completely of metal (altough I have no idea since I haven't used one).
One thing which surprised me the most is how smooth the Sigma 24/2's bokeh is. Nikkor 24/2's bokeh was ... uhhh.. interesting? The highlight balls were very clearly defined and the shape turned into triangles towards the corners.
Two main reasons I still prefer the 24/3.5i are the lens' size/weight and the 1:2 magnification (macro).
With the newer f/2 version, I can shoot in lower light and better isolate my subject but it's noticeably bigger and has magnification of 1:6.7.
I would not like to keep both but that's why this is not an easy decision. ;-)
Just received my 90i, so too soon to draw any conclusions.
So far the close-up performance is a bit below my expectations. It is quite soft at F2.8 (which may turn out to be a good thing for rendering, I will see about that) and more LoCA than I would like. Here is a quick comparison vs the Sony 85mm. From my initial tests it does not seem to perform much better in terms of LoCA, unfortunately...
Wow, that's a small lens! I'll be interested in your impressions as you shoot with it more. Up close, performance in the f/4 to f/5.6 range matters much more to me. The 45/2.8 is not very good in close at f/2.8, but I would never shoot it like that, and sharpness almost explodes at f/4. I'm curious if the 90 follows the same pattern.
@keepcoding. Thanks for the macro shots. For me this lens will be used as a telephoto .. I plan to get the sigma 24/3.5 forWA and closeup since I think it is supposed to be a 1:2. Are you planning any longer range test shots?
Matti6950 wrote:
@memzinla@ congrats on purchase, gl on shipping. I think you meant 'i bought F2 version'? Cause not it reads like you replaced lens with same one
Yes, you're right! lol.
I canceled the pre-order from Adorama and ordered from Kenmore Camera. The lens shipped! So they have it in stock.
Dave Sanders wrote:
Wow, that's a small lens! I'll be interested in your impressions as you shoot with it more. Up close, performance in the f/4 to f/5.6 range matters much more to me. The 45/2.8 is not very good in close at f/2.8, but I would never shoot it like that, and sharpness almost explodes at f/4. I'm curious if the 90 follows the same pattern.
Indeed a very compact lens. You are right about the 45i, it is very sharp at F4. This 90i seems to behave similarly:
offtraildog wrote:
@keepcoding. Thanks for the macro shots. For me this lens will be used as a telephoto .. I plan to get the sigma 24/3.5 forWA and closeup since I think it is supposed to be a 1:2. Are you planning any longer range test shots?
Yes, I will do more tests (outdoor) on the weekend
I was able to get one yesterday from our local brick and mortar (ProPhoto Supply). After a few test shots, very cloudy, I will say that the lens comes alive at f4 and background looks very pleasant. Looks to be very usable through f11, with very little processing effort.
I plan on pairing this with the 23mm f3.5 and 45mm f2.8. I generally use the lens hood for protection, so I am thinking that the 24mm hood will fit all three lenses, plus a 6-stop, 10-stop, and CPL and I have a very light kit walk around and travel kit.
I took delivery of the Sigma 24/2 and 90/2.8 today. It’s after work, autumn, getting dark, and it’s raining cats and dogs, so I’ve not been able to do any serious shooting yet.
These lenses are exquisite and look grest. The aperture ring goes into nice clicks at every third stop. The focus ring isn’t linear, but it’s well enough dampened that I won’t notice. Ecploiting the non-linear speed gain requires some effort to do. This means that these two will work very nicely in manual focus mode, and only Leica or Zeiss MF glass can surpass their manual focus feel.
bjornthun wrote:
I took delivery of the Sigma 24/2 and 90/2.8 today. It’s after work, autumn, getting dark, and it’s raining cats and dogs, so I’ve not been able to do any serious shooting yet.
These lenses are exquisite and look grest. The aperture ring goes into nice clicks at every third stop. The focus ring isn’t linear, but it’s well enough dampened that I won’t notice. Ecploiting the non-linear speed gain requires some effort to do. This means that these two will work very nicely in manual focus mode, and only Leica or Zeiss MF glass can surpass their manual focus feel.
I’m going to keep both the 24/2 and the 24/3.5....Show more →
I think the manual focus throw and linearity can be tweaked using the Sigma USB dock but I am not sure since I never used it.
bjornthun wrote:
I took delivery of the Sigma 24/2 and 90/2.8 today. It’s after work, autumn, getting dark, and it’s raining cats and dogs, so I’ve not been able to do any serious shooting yet.
These lenses are exquisite and look grest. The aperture ring goes into nice clicks at every third stop. The focus ring isn’t linear, but it’s well enough dampened that I won’t notice. Ecploiting the non-linear speed gain requires some effort to do. This means that these two will work very nicely in manual focus mode, and only Leica or Zeiss MF glass can surpass their manual focus feel.
I’m going to keep both the 24/2 and the 24/3.5....Show more →
I think that you may have forgotten to include the Voigtlander MF lenses as having a better manual focus feel as their focus are very close to my Leica and Zeiss lenses.
memzinla wrote:
Yes, you're right! lol.
I canceled the pre-order from Adorama and ordered from Kenmore Camera. The lens shipped! So they have it in stock.
So how does Kenmore camera (North of Seattle) have the 90/2.8 Sigma, but Glazers Camera (downtown Seattle) say that they won't have any until mid-October?
- J
EDIT: Just ordered the 90/2.8 E-mount version from Kenmore Camera
EDIT #2: It has just shipped and maybe get here tomorrow, but most likely Monday.
I will immediately pull out the 85/4 ZM, 85/1.8G, and 90/3.5 CV for comparison assuming the weather cooperates.
naturephoto1 wrote:
I think that you may have forgotten to include the Voigtlander MF lenses as having a better manual focus feel as their focus are very close to my Leica and Zeiss lenses.
Looks functional but the Japanese aesthetic of deep shadows, sun streams, angled messy compositions and soft colours give it a narrow range on which to make any real assessment. It's often this way in pre-release days.
'..focus ring isn’t linear. Exploiting the non-linear speed gain requires some effort to do.'
Oh. MF users often like to concentrate on getting the job done without these onerous 'cognitive overheads', the hidden master forcing you to do it his way. It might have to be an AF lens.
I haven't been able to go back to visit Finland since summer 2019 but hopefully it is doable next year...
